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[tdalton]

Depp is cool, I wouldn't mind seeing him do a Bond villain.  But I have Le Chiffre pictured in my head more like Orson Welles in the infamous Casino Royale.  For me, whoever is chosen will be measured against that template.

I would think that EON would want to distance themselves as far from that CR film as they could.

[Qwerty]

[quote name='tdalton' date='7 June 2005 - 13:46'][quote name='Skudor' date='7 June 2005 - 13:06']Depp is cool, I wouldn't mind seeing him do a Bond villain.

[vosne]

What would you say to Tim Curry as LeChiffre?
He's got that slightly maniacal glint ala Christopher Walken in AVTAK as well as being a terrific talent.

[rogermoore007]

What would you say to Tim Curry as LeChiffre?
He's got that slightly maniacal glint ala Christopher Walken in AVTAK as well as being a terrific talent.

I agree with you there. Although I'm partial to Walken, Tim Curry would definitely be on my list.

[vosne]

Now that we're on this subject it seems that using talented, established actors as villains in the Bond franchise reminds me of the 60's Batman TV show; not that it's a bad thing.

[inSPECTRE]

I rather like the idea of using Depp as a villain... that'd be an interesting selection!

what about John Lithgow?

[tdalton]

I rather like the idea of using Depp as a villain... that'd be an interesting selection!

what about John Lithgow?

I especially like the idea of getting him to play a more sinister villain. On the rare time that he actually does play a villain, it's usually a quirky one who is either comical (Once Upon a Time in Mexico) or a sympathetic one (Secret Window)

[Bondesque]

I think CR needs a villian that is older and more in the mold of Golfinger not yet another young spoiled pretty boy like Graves. I think Ian McShane would be perfect!

[Pussfeller]

I think CR needs a villian that is older and more in the mold of Golfinger not yet another young spoiled pretty boy like Graves.  I think Ian McShane would be perfect!

I agree. Just going by the pictures, he'd make a fine Le Chiffre.

[bryonalston]

I re-read the novel recently and realized that Le Chiffre doesn't seem like that formidable of a villain. I'd prefer for the movie to go the CR route and not have just one main villain. Le Chiffre would be the equivalent to Rosa Klebb, while the true villain would be the head of the organization the Le Chiffre is working for (not SPECTRE or SMERSH, so a new organization.)

[dinovelvet]

I re-read the novel recently and realized that Le Chiffre doesn't seem like that formidable of a villain. I'd prefer for the movie to go the CR route and not have just one main villain. Le Chiffre would be the equivalent to Rosa Klebb, while the true villain would be the head of the organization the Le Chiffre is working for (not SPECTRE or SMERSH, so a new organization.)

Yes I'd like Le C. to be the main villain from start to finish. The character is well-defined and I think there's good material to be mined for the movie here, in how Le C. openly mocks Bond's youth and inexperience, it would be satisfying to see the Young Bond become the Experienced Bond through defeating him. I think it'd be better for the screen version if Le C. escapes from the SPECTRE assassin so Bond can go after him (would EON dare make a movie in which Bond neither defeats the villain nor gets the girl? Highly unlikely)

[Pal]

I also highly doubt that they'd make a movie where the mission is finished halfway through the movie and then he spends a large portion of the rest of the movie in a hospital doing absolutely nothing.

[bryonalston]

Or they could simply kill him off (like they killed off General Ouromov in GE as Trevelyan began to emerge) and have the main villain emerge. A film adaptation of the novel will only take about 40-50 minutes, meaning that they have over an hour to fill with original material. I think that they should play Le Chiffre off as being the main villain, then kill him suddenly at the end of the torture scene. This would be completely unexpected to the audience (most of whom wouldn't have read the book.) Then have the true villain emerge. This villain can't be a stereotypical villain though. If they're going to kill off Le Chiffre halfway through the movie, then they better have one hell of a villain to fill his shoes

If there is a new villain created, I think that they should be very tall, and they should anticipate Bond's every move, and when Bond is finally captured, they SHOULD NOT spill the beans to Bond by telling them the entire plan. It would be far more interesting if the villain broke all of the standards (no physical deformities, it great looking, doesn't let their ego get in the way, etc...) I think they could go with the idea of having a Bond mentor type character, or they could create a new archvillain to offer some continuity in the next era of Bond films.

If the whole mentor/supervillain thing goes through, then I would pick either Anthony Hopkins, Jeremy Irons, Terence Stamp etc... However, I hate that Kevin Spacey is playing Lex Luthor, because he would make a great Bond villain (seeing as how he's played two of the greatest villains in film history.)

Edited by bryonalston, 25 June 2005 - 06:48 AM.

[Qwerty]

Topic merged.

[bryonalston]

Since we haven't had a real supervillain since the days of Blofeld (and the odds of McClory allowing Blofeld to return are slim) do you think that it's time to introduce a new arch-nemesis? I'm starting to grow tired of the whole new villain/new plot thing that goes on in each film. It would be good if there was some form of lasting continuity for once, maybe even making a trilogy. This would, again, show McClory that we don't need Blofeld to make great movies (even though it would be great to see him again.) Also, I think that it would be a good idea to have an OFFICIAL female villain, and one that doesn't have to sleep with Bond to get her point across. After all, none of the male villains sleep with Bond, and they do just fine at being evil.

[hrabb04]

Eric Brownfinger, the leader of SPINCTRE, ought to give oo7 a run for his money.

[Spoon]

Doesn't Eon finally own the rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE? Can someone finally settle this issue? (Or resettle it, or more likely, re-re-re-re-re-re-settle it?)

If they have it, IMHO they really ought to use it. This "reboot" is the perfect time.

[hrabb04]

Kevin McClory owns the rights to SPECTRE as well as the rights to the comma, the question mark, and the period. His minions may be watching us now as we type. Prepare for an imminent sueing!!!!!

[Qwerty]

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[bryonalston]

Has McClory given a specific reason as to why he's holding out, or is he just doing this out of spite? He can't do much with the character, since he doesn't own the rights to James Bond (unless he made a SPECTRE movie, withuot James Bond involved) so what's the point in keeping the rights to the character? Can't EoN or Sony just offer him an ridiculously large sum of money so that we can be rid of him forever?

[kovit123]

Bobby Fischer the American chess champion who spoke bad things about 9/11 in
his own country. Ha ha ha

[alneri007]

How about Jeffrey Tambor as Blofeld? In an orange prison jumpsuit? With Will Arnett as George Oscar Blofeld II? aka GOB

[bryonalston]

Should Le Chiffre even be called that in the movie? It doesn't sound very threatening (kind of like Renard didn't either.) I would prefer for him to be referred to as "The Number" or "The Cypher," or something more creative, something mysterious to it.

[GoldfingerRand]

Actors who would be good as a Bond villian, main or not:

Patrick Stewart
Kevin Spacey
Liam Neeson
Gary Oldman
Cillian Murphy

[bryonalston]

I think that Kevin Spacey would be a great Bond villain. It's too bad that he is already playing Lex Luthor in the Superman movies.

[Buck]

How about Jeremy Irons?


Buck

[a_crook]

I haven't read CR in awhile, so the descriptions aren't fresh with me, but I was just reading the latest issue of GQ and Vincent Cassel has an interview and photo spread. I remember when I saw Ocean's 12 he seemed very cool and suave and made a good villan. So how about him?

Plus he's French and...maybe he could convence his wife, Monica Bellucci, to become a Bond girl (Wow!).

[tdalton]

Someone on another site mentioned Bob Hoskins for the role of Le Chiffre. I've got to say, I think that he would make a great Le Chiffre. He's relatively unknown and fits a great deal of the physical description of Le Chiffre from the novel.

[ACE]

Doesn't Eon finally own the rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE?  Can someone finally settle this issue?  (Or resettle it, or more likely, re-re-re-re-re-re-settle it?)

If they have it, IMHO they really ought to use it.  This "reboot" is the perfect time.

Eon and the Studio now own ALL Bond film rights whatsoever. They own SPECTRE, Blofeld and all related material.

McClory is over.

ACE

[Pussfeller]

I have a hunch that the producers may be looking at Goran Visnjic to play Le Chiffre. He would be acceptable (although far from ideal) for the role, and it would explain why his name has come up. Likewise for Ewan Stewart, who is absolutely NOT a candidate for James Bond. I have a theory that the "list of four" may be valid, but that they've been tested for a variety of roles, not merely for the role of Bond.

* Visnjic is testing for Le Chiffre. In the novel, Le Chiffre was of Eastern European descent. No problem there, eh? However, Visnjic stands at 6'4", so they'd have to change the character a bit.
* Ewan Stewart is also testing for Le Chiffre. He's 5'9" and kind of evil-looking, so he'd be more in line with the novel. He sure as isn't testing for Bond.
* Alex O'Lachlan is testing for Bond. This much I can believe. He's got the right look, he's 28 years old, and he's Australian.
* Henry Cavill is also testing for Bond. He's the right ethnicity, the right level of fame, but he's too young and babyfaced. So he's probably already been eliminated.

I doubt the latter two will end up on screen. They've probably already been eliminated, hence, their identities are less closely guarded. However, we may end up seeing Visnjic or Stewart next year playing Le Chiffre.