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[Harmsway]

I hate that comment just as much. But it's also not the ending note of the film, so there's time for it to fade away. When a movie ends on a sour note, it affects how you view the film in its entirety.

Agreed. After DAD and TWINE, the first thing that I heard people talking about was not the film itself and how good/bad everyone thought it was. What they were talking about was how awful the final line (of both films) was. I just think that they've gone a bit too far with the innuendo in the final lines of dialogue, and while the CR final line has a curse word in it whereas the ones from DAD and TWINE don't, I still think it will be less offensive than those two, or the one from Octopussy.

Yeah. The final line of CASINO ROYALE will also be chillingly appropriate, and I can see Craig delivering it perfectly with his terrific voice.

[tdalton]

I hate that comment just as much. But it's also not the ending note of the film, so there's time for it to fade away. When a movie ends on a sour note, it affects how you view the film in its entirety.

Agreed. After DAD and TWINE, the first thing that I heard people talking about was not the film itself and how good/bad everyone thought it was. What they were talking about was how awful the final line (of both films) was. I just think that they've gone a bit too far with the innuendo in the final lines of dialogue, and while the CR final line has a curse word in it whereas the ones from DAD and TWINE don't, I still think it will be less offensive than those two, or the one from Octopussy.

Yeah. The final line of CASINO ROYALE will also be chillingly appropriate, and I can see Craig delivering it perfectly with his terrific voice.

And I think that people will be leaving the theater talking about that final line as well, but it'll be in a more positive light than how they were talking about the final lines of the last two Bond films. If it's written into the script the right way (and that's my only concern because I have no doubt that Daniel Craig is the perfect actor to recite that line), then it could be one of the greatest lines in the Bond films.

[Skudor]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

[Qwerty]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

Don't think I've ever really noticed that one...

[Skudor]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

Don't think I've ever really noticed that one...

I know... not exactly something most people would give a second thought... but I noticed it that first evening in the cinema and it still bugs me... go figure.

[Kingdom Come]

Yes, I noticed it first time and every other time since then!

[Harmsway]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

Don't think I've ever really noticed that one...

I know... not exactly something most people would give a second thought... but I noticed it that first evening in the cinema and it still bugs me... go figure.

I notice it too. It's way too forced, way too "I'm James Bond so I must move utterly fluid and like a 'spy' would."

[Jim]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

Screaming.

[Bon-san]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

For me there's nothing so glaring as the way Roger descends every staircase at an angle. Does he think that looks cool, or is it better to cushion his not-so-brawny legs?

[Lounge Lizard]

One moment that always bugged me is Brosnan coming down the stairs in the pre-titles sequence in Goldeney... the way he holds the rail and his posture....too camp somehow.

Don't think I've ever really noticed that one...

I know... not exactly something most people would give a second thought... but I noticed it that first evening in the cinema and it still bugs me... go figure.

I notice it too. It's way too forced, way too "I'm James Bond so I must move utterly fluid and like a 'spy' would."

I didn't mind it as much as you guys did, but Sean Bean was definitely more convincing with 'the moves', during that particular scene. 'You know, James? I was always better.' Yes, he probably was.

And during the PTS, Bean also had the really Bondian moment of cold-bloodedly shooting the Arkhangel scientist, while Bond himself was busy fidgeting with the laboratory lock. An example of the screenwriters playing it safe and letting the baddie-to-be do all the dirty work: 'Bond is a goodie, he knocks people out in toilets, Trevelyan is a baddie, he shoots 'em in the back.' A little simplistic.

[Seannery]

Hmmmmmmm.........IMO you guys are overthinking the Bond going down stairwells angle. I see nothing wrong how Pierce or Roger did that. Ah Bond fans.......we are a picky lot.


For me weakest moments would have to be something ridiculous like the 2 little asian girls taking on a whole kung fu school in TMWTGG.

[Red Barchetta]

1. Anything with Nick Nack

2. Christmas Jones

3. Sheriff Pepper

4. The para-sail scene.

[freemo]

Q's reply of disbelief when Stromberg is first mentioned as a suspect.

"Karl Stromberg? But he's one of the richest men in the world".

Well Q, considering the culprit has to be someone who possesses the resources necessary to hijack two nuclear submarines, "richest men in the world" probably isn't such a bad place to start looking.

[Kingdom Come]

Some of Peter Hunt's dodgy cutting - that end fight in Thunderball aboard the boat. Also a lot of the films suffer from very dodgy dubbing.

[spynovelfan]

Some of Peter Hunt's dodgy cutting - that end fight in Thunderball aboard the boat.

The back projection is the worst thing about that, though. Very hard now to suspend disbelief in that scene, I find.

[dunmall]

any time Bond taunts the villain into revealing himself, Bond to Zorin about "fly fishing" and Brosnans insufferable:
I'm interested in your satalites, the way you position yourself globaly or words to that effect followed by "I wouldn't know where to begin. I'd be lost at sea. Adrift..."

It reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Chief Wiggum reveals that yelling the question: "Did you do it!?" at suspects often works.

[bondrocks14]

2)DAD-CGI parasurf stunt, Madonna's "acting" performance as Verity

Yeah that was pretty bad.

[Harmsway]

I gotta say Blofeld dressed as a woman in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER was a pretty big low.

[Alvin Stardust]

Maggie and Denis in FYEO. We can only hope there's no Rory Bremner as Tony to look forward to in CR.

[Judo chop]

Roger squeezing a sumo's buttocks in an attempt to...

I always get up to grab a beer right before that moment. Although I suppose it might not fall under the "weakest" moments category, depending on how you look at it, 'cause he really gets a hold of those suckers!

[Kingdom Come]

Weakest moments? John Glen allowed in the editing suites of Octopussy and View To a Kill..

[JimmyBond]

I havent read the whole thread, so I'm sure mine have been mentioned already:

I never could get a grip on why Connery was wearing s pink tie in Diamonds on Forever

The whole caviar factory helicopter action sequence from TWINE was stupid, unnecessary, and killed the pacing of the last half of the film.

Goldeneye: Bond is pretty much a bystander while the Goldeneye is stolen, then he gets ordered around by Natalia in the second half of the movie...so is this a Bond film or a new film starring Natalia??

[Skudor]

This must have been mentioned already... but for me there are two moments that stand out as the weakest in Bond history: The introduction of an invisible car and the absurd CGO surfing scene, both in Die Another Day. The surfing scene probably takes the top slot for me as the weakest moment. I wanted to walk out at that point, and it really did affect my enjoyment of the rest of the movie.

[Skin 17]

Bond and Scaramanga's duel in the "Funhouse"

[Bring Back Valentin]

If I'm going to complain about Bond low points, I might as well go all out...

Dr No: Felix's old-woman sunglasses and bad dubbing when the gunboat shoots up the beach
FRWL: The dubbing. That's about it; virtually the perfect 007 movie.
GF: Oddjobs hat landing right next to the statue, putting a compacted Lincoln into the bed of a truck the size of a Subaru Brat, soldiers falling over before they're gassed.
TB: Background projection on the hydrofoil fights. Bad now, but John Stears won an Oscar for special effects on TB.
YOLT: "Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so..." 1000 ninjas and a british assassin can't kill one bald guy.
OHMSS: "This never happened to the other fella...", Bond in a kilt
DAF: The Pink Tie, Blofeld in drag, "You just killed James Bond!", the Mustang chase
LALD: Bond with a .44 Magnum, exploding Kananga
TMWTGG: The Slide Whistle Incident, Mary Goodnight, the karate schoolgirls
TSWLM: Jaws dropping a boulder on his foot, goofy music before the van breaks down
MR: Jaws flapping his arms like a idiot, fallling in love with Pippi Longstocking, everything after leaving Earth.
FYEO: The pre-title sequence and the ending with the PM. And Bibi. Otherwise a great movie.
OP: Tarzan yell
AVTAK: Beach Boys in Siberia?!?!? Eiffel Tower editing, Tonya Roberts
TLD: I just didn't like Kara. Otherwise okay.
LTK: Wayne Newton, Q not returning his own equipment in pristine condition (the radio rake)
GE: The beginning of Bond's obsession with automatic weapons, "I am invincible!", throwing the BMW Z3 in at the last minute and not really using it.
TND: Wai Lin's fight scene, Bond looking at a chinese keyboard like a monkey doing a math problem, Dr Kauffman just not shooting Bond in the head when he walked in the room instead of going on about being a professional.
TWINE: Bond unable to disarm a russian nuke without the help of a 28-year old bimbo, a bad intro for "R"
DAD: Halle Berry, Madonna's theme song, CGI overload.

That about does it.

[Kingdom Come]

Binder using stationary 'stick on dots' for part of the titles to Doctor No.

[CowboyFunk22]

GF: Oddjobs hat landing right next to the statue, putting a compacted Lincoln into the bed of a truck the size of a Subaru Brat, soldiers falling over before they're gassed.


That about does it.

I rather liked how the soldiers fell before they were gassed. You think "Oh, looks like they are all laying down on cue" and then you are told they actually were.

[RJJB]

Binder using stationary 'stick on dots' for part of the titles to Doctor No.

Jeez, kind of nitpicking, aren't you? To consider the first time credit sequence a weakest moment is really stretching the point. I can think of plenty of other truly weak moments from the bodies of the movies that qualify.

[Kingdom Come]

If you did, you'd name them.

[Flash1087]

any time Bond taunts the villain into revealing himself, Bond to Zorin about "fly fishing" and Brosnans insufferable:
I'm interested in your satalites, the way you position yourself globaly or words to that effect followed by "I wouldn't know where to begin. I'd be lost at sea. Adrift..."

It reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Chief Wiggum reveals that yelling the question: "Did you do it!?" at suspects often works.

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. The 'fly fishing' thing works because it's a bit more subtle, but the 'lost at sea' line just takes it too far. Bond's just being a jerk, then.

Good Simpsons reference, by the way.