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#61 Pussfeller

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Posted 13 September 2003 - 06:40 PM

Yes, just about everybody in TWINE was a poor actor at some point in the film. Brosnan seemed to be perfect for the first half, then took a sharp dive (along with the film) during the second. Denise Richards seriously screwed up this movie, and it was her fault! I don't care how badly the character was written--she was awful! I imagine that she had been written to be like Dr. Goodhead, but why the hell cast Denise Richards, an actress famed for her inability to act?

The ham-fisted exchanges between Brosnan and Marceau felt like they had been lifted out of "The Bold and the Beautiful," and Renard could have been used way more effectively. He ended up as little more than a henchman. The whole film was low-key and reserved, almost as though the writers wanted to make a "realistic James Bond." They ended up with a 007 fit for daytime TV.

It brought back memories of such boring adventures as DAF and OP. With DAD, they abandoned the whole idea of realism in favor of ultra-unrealism, though I wish they'd all learn some subtlety.

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Posted 14 September 2003 - 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Pussfeller
Yes, just about everybody in TWINE was a poor actor at some point in the film. Brosnan seemed to be perfect for the first half, then took a sharp dive (along with the film) during the second. Denise Richards seriously screwed up this movie, and it was her fault! I don't care how badly the character was written--she was awful! I imagine that she had been written to be like Dr. Goodhead, but why the hell cast Denise Richards, an actress famed for her inability to act?  

The ham-fisted exchanges between Brosnan and Marceau felt like they had been lifted out of "The Bold and the Beautiful," and Renard could have been used way more effectively. He ended up as little more than a henchman. The whole film was low-key and reserved, almost as though the writers wanted to make a "realistic James Bond." They ended up with a 007 fit for daytime TV.  

It brought back memories of such boring adventures as DAF and OP. With DAD, they abandoned the whole idea of realism in favor of ultra-unrealism, though I wish they'd all learn some subtlety.

denise is a very good actress and nice to look at as well, dont blame denise for the wrongs of twine

#63 DLibrasnow

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 12:38 PM

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
denise is a very good actress and nice to look at as well, dont blame denise for the wrongs of twine


Everyone who has anything to do with TWINE should be blamed collectively for releasing this abnormal mess on the world...

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 11:54 PM

TWINE is stiller better than DAD. I liked it enough to buy it but I won't touch DAD with a pooper scooper!

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Posted 24 September 2003 - 05:14 AM

"Renard had three enemies in the kidnapping, and there is one he still has not touched."

Well, they really were not refering to Renard, but Elektra. TWINE is a piece of angry feminism.

Elektra: Symbolizes the woman whose been abused by men and wants revenge, which she finds in different ways with Bond, Renard, Sir Robert and even M.

M: Symbolizes a mother who has let the father sexually abuse the daughter.

Sir Robert King: Symbolizes the father who has sexually abused his daughter.

Renard: Kidnapper/Rapist

Bond: The lover whom the woman wants to hurt as well.

I don't hate this picture, but it could easily air on the Lifetime Channel.

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 07:30 PM

Originally posted by BondNumber7
"Renard had three enemies in the kidnapping, and there is one he still has not touched."  

Well, they really were not refering to Renard, but Elektra. TWINE is a piece of angry feminism.

Elektra: Symbolizes the woman whose been abused by men and wants revenge, which she finds in different ways with Bond, Renard, Sir Robert and even M.

M: Symbolizes a mother who has let the father sexually abuse the daughter.

Sir Robert King: Symbolizes the father who has sexually abused his daughter.

Renard: Kidnapper/Rapist

Bond: The lover whom the woman wants to hurt as well.

I don't hate this picture, but it could easily air on the Lifetime Channel.


u forgot to throw in your treatise on stockholm synnndrooooome

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Posted 29 September 2003 - 05:44 AM

When I first saw TWINE, I thought it was the best of the Brosnan movies. That however was four years ago. I would now place it in either 3rd or 4th place (I'm still deciding between DAD and TWINE). However, like a good chunk of the critics said, the last 45 minutes of DAD are not good. It just became too over the top. Why does Gustav (sp?) Graves have a machine that he wears (which by the way looked absolutely stupid) to electrically shock people?

TWINE does have some really boring moments in it, case and point being David Arnold using the James Bond theme when Bond takes the hook and slides down the wire, during the caviar factory scene. The theme should be used when something exciting happens on screen, not when he is sliding down a wire. It's very boring to look at something like that, unless the person is 500+ feet off the ground.

However, I still like TWINE, and I think the score is great, but its certainly not the best Bond movie.

Just while we are on Brosnan's movies for a sec, I still think Tomorrow Never Dies is his best movie, and I would place it 3rd on my list for favorite Bond movies. It was the perfect Bond movie for the 90's. Bond must stop a media mogul from starting a war just so he can get great television ratings. That was abosolutely perfect for the world in the 90's and even today (coughs) Bill Gates, Ted Turner. The movie has a great pre-title sequence, great action, and a great score. It reminded me a lot of the Bond movies from the 60's.

Sorry I kind of went off topic there.

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Posted 12 October 2003 - 04:30 PM

Don't know if any1 has brought this up in regards to TWINE but oddly the following has literally just occured to me;

As M climbs the steps to where Bond / Elektra are - she sees Bond kill Elektra in cold blood. Bond sees M. Why is this 'unlawful killing' been somehow passed over between Bond and M?

#69 CommanderBond

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Posted 12 October 2003 - 09:52 PM

my only compaint was that i hate the car..... i saw a model car version and i just thought it was the worst bond car id ever seen!

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 12:57 PM

The World Is Not Enough was pretty much flawless to me. People complain about the action but I was actually relieved to watch a Bond film that was more plot driven and about the characters for a change. Until I started reading the reviews, I had no idea that everyone else thought Denise Richards was horrible. I even thought she was okay.

I hope the next Bond film follows this formula rather than DAD's. I thought it was entertaining, but it doesn't have the re-watchability of The World Is Not Enough.

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 09:44 PM

Originally posted by iceberg
but it doesn't have the re-watchability of The World Is Not Enough.


Re-watchable???? Are you kidding? I saw The World is not Enough once at the movie theater on its opening night and that was enough for me. That was the only and the last time I will ever watch that piece of....well you get the point!

#72 CommanderBond

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 02:09 AM

i get the point more than vargas did! :)

to me Denise Richards was too plain....sorry but to me in that movie she was what she was ment to be ......eyecandy

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 02:22 AM

I hate that (if you can call it) car. It's disgusting, bland and boring. The film, is okay to me. I think the score is top notch, but THAT car....Ugh!

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 02:34 AM

Originally posted by CommanderBond
i get the point more than vargas did! :)

to me Denise Richards was too plain....sorry but to me in that movie she was what she was ment to be ......eyecandy

and what sexy yummy eye candy she was

#75 CommanderBond

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 02:36 AM

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
and what sexy yummy eye candy she was



OOOOOO YEAH :)

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 04:09 AM

To each his own I guess!

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 04:20 AM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
To each his own I guess!

ouch snowie:(

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 12:10 PM

It's okay 'finesse....she's just not my type....

Personally, I think Denise Richards looked a lot better in "Wild Things"

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 06:44 PM

but to me the movie stunk and its in my room collecting dust as we speak.

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 07:20 PM

Originally posted by CommanderBond
but to me the movie stunk and its in my room collecting dust as we speak.


Are you referring to "Wild Things" or The World is not Enough??

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 09:04 PM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Are you referring to "Wild Things" or The World is not Enough??

yes to all of you its important to make that distinction, my copy of wild things is not sitting gathering dust....i promise all of you that, of course nither is twine;)

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 12:06 AM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Are you referring to "Wild Things" or The World is not Enough??


Im referring to TWINE

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 12:31 AM

comamander bond do me a favor and watch wild things, and if u have seen it, watch it again

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 12:43 AM

i have seen wild things and she friggn hot, but to me she did a bad in TWINE.I dont even consider her a bond girl.

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 02:34 AM

Originally posted by CommanderBond


Im referring to TWINE



Aaah, then we are in agreement that The World is not Enough stunk!!

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 01:20 PM

TWINE was a lame Bond film. Renard wasn't scary at all and the bullet in the head was a lame gimmick. Next to Carver, he was the Bond series most ineffectual villain. M should have been fired for getting kidnapped overseas. The film tried to be a typical late 90s action film,a Die-Hard type, but it also tried to keep in Bond intrigue but it just ended up confusing itself. The film was just a series of chases and explosions with a flimsy plot binding them together. Brosnan was too smug from start to finish. And what was Renard and Elektra's plan? Something to do with oil? Your guess is as good as mine. The novelisation of the film is far far better.

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 01:59 PM

to me score for the film stunk!!

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 02:23 PM

i LOVE this bond film

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 02:25 PM

thats only because you love Denise Richards :)

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 02:28 PM

Originally posted by CommanderBond
thats only because you love Denise Richards :)

amen to that brother, i would not kick her out of my bed...bond was lucky