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#91 Zorin Industries

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:00 AM

Zorin Honestly it was minor things. I mean there are some bond fans who actually want Angelina Jolie, or Megan Fox I want Hilary Duff. I know it will never happen but when there was that article on the web supporting her i was a little sad that you and a few others Basically laughed at the idea yet took the web article supporting Kathryn Bigelow much more seriously (she did point break for crying out loud). Outside of that I actually think bond 23 could have something to do with smuggling I'm not sure why you are so convinced that bond 23 will have nothing to do with smuggling.

I may be proved wrong but I do not remember even thinking about a smuggling idea let alone dismissing one.

Hilary Duff will not be in a Bond film. We can all have our fantasy castings - but I like mine to at least contain some echo of reality - i.e. would it ever happen.

Kathryn Bigelow has won multiple awards, including the Oscar for Best Director and Best Picture. She seems a little more attuned to the talent we could discuss as regards a Bond film (though I have been dismissive of the idea as pre-HURT LOCKER everyone was using POINT BREAK as an example of the only action film directed by a woman - which was hardly enough cache for a Bond film).

#92 Lachesis

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:04 PM

I wouldnt actually describe Rachel Weisz as naturally threatening, and after the lacklustre Dominic Greene I certainly hope there will be a concerted effort to deliver an enemy that really seems to challenge Bond (and the resources of MI6)...but if portrayed well, a true evil female mastermind would certainly be different and Ms Weisz charisma might just be what is needed to sell the idea (I enjoyed TWINE but agree with Trident that the role fell somewhat short of its real potential - too often Hollywood seems to lose its nerve where Female Villainy is concerned).

As a theme she might well attempt to conscript Bond to Quantum of course, what better way to defeat your enemy than to make them your own weapon (oohh errr misses).

#93 blueman

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 06:24 PM

Kathryn Bigelow has won multiple awards, including the Oscar for Best Director and Best Picture. She seems a little more attuned to the talent we could discuss as regards a Bond film (though I have been dismissive of the idea as pre-HURT LOCKER everyone was using POINT BREAK as an example of the only action film directed by a woman - which was hardly enough cache for a Bond film).

What about Spottiswoode, Apted, Tamahori, or Forster suggested they had "enough [action film] cache" to direct a Bond? Doesn't seem to mean anything to EON these days, although I think with Forster they picked a helluva lot better than they did in the Brosnan era (and the rumored - and perhaps better-cached? - Mendes seems in that same vein IMO).

#94 double o ego

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 06:48 PM

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#95 Mr_Wint

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:43 PM

I also think that they should steer Bond/Villain dynamic in this instance as far away from the Bond/Elektra dynamic as possible. I'd prefer to see the character that Weisz would play, should the rumor turn out to be true, not have any kind of relationship with Bond, and would rather see her played as the villain for the entire length of the film rather than having the filmmakers try to trick us into thinking that she's on Bond's side and then pull the switch later on in the film like they did in TWINE.


Moreover, if something along those lines should really happen, then I think it would be imperative to see the female villain actually do some evil things herself, not just hear about it. Elektra unfortunately came across as merely a spoilt brat, additionally traumatised by (a very strange case of; practically unheard of, if I may say so) Stockholm syndrome. Such a figure would surely profit from some major exposition in the sinister-department. Just ordering some thug to do the hard part doesn't cut the mustard here.

Well, she tortured Bond.



Well, not really to decent effect. For obvious reasons she couldn't really go all the way with Bond on that chair, and the part we've seen was still a very mild session solved way too early by the cavalry. It's somehow indicated that Marceau's character can be an evil bitch, but it's never actually shown.

She killed Zukovsky which I think is more than an indication. Anyway, I guess she wasn't bad because she "likes to be bad" but because she thought everyone else had betrayed her (and in a way they did).

#96 danslittlefinger

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:09 PM

According to one interview given by Rachel at the Laurence Olivier Awards, Daniel hasn't "asked" her to be a "Bond girl" but if he does, she wouldn't hesitate.

So going on that, he either has to ask her or keep his mouth shut (depending on your views). Hate to be Craig on that film set knowing Racheypoo is just waiting.... B)

Even so, does Craig have that power?

#97 TheREAL008

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:15 PM

I'd rather see her in a Vivienne Michel kinda role in a Bond film.

#98 Zorin Industries

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:15 AM

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#99 Germanlady

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:02 AM

According to one interview given by Rachel at the Laurence Olivier Awards, Daniel hasn't "asked" her to be a "Bond girl" but if he does, she wouldn't hesitate.

So going on that, he either has to ask her or keep his mouth shut (depending on your views). Hate to be Craig on that film set knowing Racheypoo is just waiting.... B)

Even so, does Craig have that power?


I think, he does have a lot - but his main "power" is, that he attracts talent.

#100 Conlazmoodalbrocra

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 01:25 PM

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If it involves Bond killing her and the rest of the Glee cast I'm all for it! Really, terrible show.

#101 Zorin Industries

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 01:48 PM

According to one interview given by Rachel at the Laurence Olivier Awards, Daniel hasn't "asked" her to be a "Bond girl" but if he does, she wouldn't hesitate.

So going on that, he either has to ask her or keep his mouth shut (depending on your views). Hate to be Craig on that film set knowing Racheypoo is just waiting.... B)

Even so, does Craig have that power?


I think, he does have a lot - but his main "power" is, that he attracts talent.

And that he is very plugged into acting / creative circles - more so than maybe Pierce Brosnan was.

#102 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:29 PM

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WOW!!! :) :) :S
Lovely, chaaarming, chaaarming B) :tdown: :tdown:

#103 jaguar007

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:03 PM

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Best bitch in TV and movies these days B)

#104 AgentBentley

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 03:18 PM

All for Rachel Weisz in a Bond movie, but I don't know about her credibility as an 'evil mastermind.' She looks too nice to me.

#105 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 04:25 PM

All for Rachel Weisz in a Bond movie, but I don't know about her credibility as an 'evil mastermind.' She looks too nice to me.


That´s what would be more interesting for a villain, wouldn´t it?

#106 Loomis

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 04:55 PM

Anyone remember when Bond films used to be fun? When did they get completely taken over by the north London intelligentsia?

#107 The Shark

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 06:51 PM

Approximately 1998-99.

#108 Vauxhall

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:18 PM

I thought Al Pacino was the elusive head of Quantum...

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:25 PM

I thought Al Pacino was the elusive head of Quantum...

That would be so awful its best not to even contemplate.

#110 zencat

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:44 PM

Anyone remember when Bond films used to be fun? When did they get completely taken over by the north London intelligentsia?

The man has a point.

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 12:08 AM

All for Rachel Weisz in a Bond movie, but I don't know about her credibility as an 'evil mastermind.' She looks too nice to me.


That's what they say about serial killers who people have just discovered lived next door to them.
That and "She/He was such a quiet nice gal/lad".

Number one credential for a villain I would say. :|


WOW!!! :) :) :S
Lovely, chaaarming, chaaarming B) :tdown: :tdown:


I know, lovely set of pins too. :S

#112 jaguar007

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 12:11 AM

I thought Al Pacino was the elusive head of Quantum...


no, that is Gulshan Glover

#113 Loomis

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 12:20 AM

Anyone remember when Bond films used to be fun? When did they get completely taken over by the north London intelligentsia?

The man has a point.


Thanks. Going by recent form, coupled with the hiring of Peter Morgan and the alleged involvement of Sam Mendes and Rachel Weisz, I'm seriously beginning to wonder whether Eon's true goal is to make a film like THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND or THE READER with added action scenes. Or perhaps THE GHOST WRITER is the new template (Barbara Broccoli was one of the guests at the star-studded screening of Polanski's newie in London the other day).

I mean, don't get me wrong - these are talented people who have made terrific, intelligent films.... but I do get the feeling that Bond is being mixed with things it shouldn't be mixed with, if you get my drift.

#114 dinovelvet

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 02:27 AM

Anyone remember when Bond films used to be fun? When did they get completely taken over by the north London intelligentsia?


Well define "fun". I thought Casino Royale was great fun, whereas the "fun" Brosnan films with poor innuendo and pointless action scenes were just silly.

#115 tdalton

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 02:42 AM

Anyone remember when Bond films used to be fun? When did they get completely taken over by the north London intelligentsia?

The man has a point.


Thanks. Going by recent form, coupled with the hiring of Peter Morgan and the alleged involvement of Sam Mendes and Rachel Weisz, I'm seriously beginning to wonder whether Eon's true goal is to make a film like THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND or THE READER with added action scenes. Or perhaps THE GHOST WRITER is the new template (Barbara Broccoli was one of the guests at the star-studded screening of Polanski's newie in London the other day).

I mean, don't get me wrong - these are talented people who have made terrific, intelligent films.... but I do get the feeling that Bond is being mixed with things it shouldn't be mixed with, if you get my drift.


I'm glad that they're finally trying to make great films. The current production team's last couple of attempts at making "fun" Bond films (GE & TND) turned outto be quite poor, so I'm glad that they're not attempting to go down that road with the franchise anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm definately in favor of the Bond character lightening up a little bit in BOND 23, but I'd also like to see them continue down the path of trying to make very high-quality films with some of the most respected names in the industry. The last two films have been two of my absolute favorite Bond films, and I can't say that I'd be all that interested in the franchise anymore if they decided to return the franchise to the "fun" of films like GE and TND.

I don't have a problem with the Bond franchise associating itself with such serious filmmakers, as I think that it is just a ohase for the franchise, just like Roger Moore's comedic spin on the character or Brosnan's superhero spin on the character. Once the franchise moves on to the next Bond actor, the direction of the franchise will change again.

#116 blueman

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:18 AM

Well that all sounds a bit of alright. Also a helluva leak if true.

#117 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:24 AM

While probably just a fabrication most of that sounds pretty good to me.

#118 blueman

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:48 AM

Feels like one of the most credible rumors we've seen here, if only cuz the originator has zero stake in anything Bond - he's a friend of somebody who may be involved with the movie, which is usually how anything gets out early.

Or it's some joker yanking chains, sure. Just a lot of detail for that IMO.

Yikes, this just popped up on that website:

Anonymous said...
Please delete this content immediately, otherwise we have to take legal steps against you!

Lilly Cullen,
Eon Productions Limited

Guessing it's real...

#119 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 09:33 AM

If that is true I really like the new storyline!!!

#120 blueman

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 09:35 AM

Yeah, me too. If they're gonna continue Quantum, that's the way to do it!