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#91 Qwerty

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 08:42 PM

the one in the trailer sounds a lot like the one done by the propellerheads

Quite.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 08:51 PM

It is common practice to use music from old films in movie trailers when the film

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 09:13 PM

I just watched the trailer and yeah it is the wonderful music of On Her Majesty’s Secret Service playing in the background...

Anybody know where I can get the David Arnold/Propellorheads version?

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 01:28 AM

Anybody know where I can get the David Arnold/Propellorheads version?

Two CD's:

The Propellerheads CD, decksandrumsandrockandroll -- think that's it

--or--

The David Arnold James Bond CD

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 01:59 AM

It is common practice to use music from old films in movie trailers when the film’s actual score is not complete. That’s really all there is here.

And this is because the score is usually one of the very last things added in post-production.

#96 Qwerty

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:00 AM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='11 September 2004 - 16:51'] It is common practice to use music from old films in movie trailers when the film

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:24 AM

...
The David Arnold James Bond CD

It

#98 Qwerty

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:27 AM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='11 September 2004 - 22:24'] [quote name='Qwerty' date='11 September 2004 - 20:28'] ...
The David Arnold James Bond CD [/quote]
It

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:33 AM

Is that so, Mr. *? I own the David Arnold CD only. I've seen the Propellerhead's one in a FYE store by me, but I'm not buying it for $19.99. Listening to a 30 second sample of the track on that one, I think, just has the calm interlude of the song, like 7 or 8 minutes into it.

I have been told the Arnold version is more orchestra driven then the Props version. Having only heard the Props version I will not swear to it. There are a few other good songs on decksandrumsandrockandroll.

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:35 AM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='11 September 2004 - 22:33'] [quote name='Qwerty' date='11 September 2004 - 21:27'] Is that so, Mr. *? I own the David Arnold CD only. I've seen the Propellerhead's one in a FYE store by me, but I'm not buying it for $19.99. Listening to a 30 second sample of the track on that one, I think, just has the calm interlude of the song, like 7 or 8 minutes into it. [/quote]
I have been told the Arnold version is more orchestra driven then the Props version. Having only heard the Props version I will not swear to it. There are a few other good songs on decksandrumsandrockandroll.

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 11:47 AM

Saw the second trailer in cinemas for the first time today, in front of The Village. The Propellerheads' tune brought a smile to my face, even if it no doubt passed the rest of the cinema by [including the dozen-odd bratty teens who laughed, shouted and swore throughout the whole film... GRR!].

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 11:12 PM

The Incredibles score....... by Michael Giacchino


Barry was canned.... (we all know that)...... he would have had a tought time beating the score that is used....... it's amazing! Really Barry-esque as well......

just listen to this:
http://music.walmart...7.01.01.012.mp3



when and if Arnold steps down..... THIS is the man to take Bond to the next level.......

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 05:52 AM

The Incredibles score....... by Michael Giacchino


Barry was canned.... (we all know that)...... he would have had a tought time beating the score that is used....... it's amazing! Really Barry-esque as well......

just listen to this:
http://music.walmart...7.01.01.012.mp3



when and if Arnold steps down..... THIS is the man to take Bond to the next level.......

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Thank you for the clip, i have been anxious to hear what this score would sound like, until I get around to obtaining it.

I would have to hear the rest of the score, but based on that track it feels more like Jerry Goldsmiths, Man From Uncle/In Like Flint scores. I think it has a John Barry, Goldfinger type of sound to it, but I would not call it a John Barry inspired track.

As much as I love the works of Michael Giacchino, that 30 second sample really didn't do anythign for me, then plant me in the middle of 1973. If the rest of the music sounds like this, it won't be taking it to the next level, but rather set it 3 decades back.

Until I hear the rest of the soundtrack, this is my opinion. I may revise it later. And from what I read, John Barry left the project way before he even began to write music, mostly cause of his age and the subject matter at hand.

Any other thoughts

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 08:25 AM

It does sound like early Barry for sure, but 30 seconds is no real indicator as to the scope and range of the whole score.

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 09:42 AM

Yeah it does sound like Barry

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 10:39 AM

Michael Giacchino has worked on 'Alias' as well, I think he's doing a great job. When and if Arnold steps down, I wouldn't mind having him at all.

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 12:08 PM

Interesting....

Arnold, eh?

Why? If you don't mind my asking.

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 03:49 PM

Yes, the score is great--Bondesque, jazzy and definitely enjoyable. Agentjb, it's "out there" (you know what I mean) for the grabbing.

Haven't seen the film yet, but a friend of mine says it's great. Tonight we're hitting the sneak of "After the Sunset". Here's hoping for an excellent "caper" movie and the chance for Pierce to have a "gem".

And on the subject of ALIAS music, Season 2's score gets an official release from Varese on Nov 16.

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 05:38 PM

maybe I shouldn't have picked that clip..... but you can listen to 30 second previews of the rest of the score from the walmart site....


......also...... you can buy it.... or....... you can.... you know...... "get it"...... :)


(that's what I did.....)

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 06:31 PM

From the John Barry yahoogroup, a quite interesting interview from AICN:

This is an excerpt from an interview that "Moriarty" did with "The
Incredibles" director, Brad Bird on AICN. This should clear up the
nagging questions about John Barry's involvement, the use of OHMSS
in the trailer and the use of Michael Giacchino for the final film.

James

Moriarty: In terms of the score, you cut that original teaser to the
Propellerheads version of the "On Her Majesty's Secret
Service"
theme...

BRAD: Actually, that was a live performance than we recorded,
because we messed with it a little bit. We got the rights to that
piece of music and kind of reorchestrated it.
Moriarty: Very early on, there was some talk about John Barry
working on the score.

BRAD: Yeah. We worked on it for a little while, and I'm a huge
fan
of John Barry. But I kind of wanted him to go back to a style that
he used in the past, and use that as kind of a starting place. I
think he kind of felt like he'd already done that. So we're
still in
touch with him, and he's going to see the movie in New York. He
was
all right with us trying to find someone who could be, uh... perky
and fresh about going backwards because John certainly had already
done a lot of that style.
Moriarty: I think he's got to see this as a giant love letter to
his
work. Michael's score is so rich.

BRAD: Thanks! We tried to capture a whole raft of `60's
style, jazz
style... and also, one of the good things about Michael Giacchino is
he was able to capture that style but not be a prisoner to it. He
created great original themes for these guys, and we're
incredibly
happy with the music. He had trouble getting people to give him a
break in movies, and I think people won't leave him alone after
this.
Moriarty: As much as I've enjoyed his work on ALIAS and LOST,
this
is a huge leap forward, and I think it's the lush size of the
thing.
He really gets to play this time.

BRAD: Yeah, yeah, he had a blast, and he's fabulous.



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Posted 06 November 2004 - 08:04 PM

I saw the whole movie, and I can tell ya the whole score is very Barry-inspired. Some parts felt directly lifted from one of the 60s Bond flicks! I'd be more than happy to see Michael Giacchino scoring the next few Bond flicks (I'd much prefer a 60s styled score to Arnold's more modern mix... screw modernizing Bond, let's just take him back to the glory days! It was much more fun that way!).

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 02:34 AM

thanks Abdel! It's nice to know Barry wasn't "fired" as such.... but that he didn't really want to do it that way.....

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 08:59 PM

I've listened to the score a couple of times now. I really like it. I noticed little "references" to Goldfinger & Diamonds Are Forever in a few spots. I'd highly recommend it. It's almost like having a new (old) Bond score!

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Posted 08 November 2004 - 09:36 PM

I have uhhh..."obtained" the full score... an excellent piece of work I must say!

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 11:46 PM

Once again if truly are going back to Bond's roots, I'd love to hear a retro 60's style 007 score again.

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 02:44 PM

Yesterday, I went to see The Incredibles and first of all I was quite impressed by the original score music composed by Michael Giachini, which is far better than David Arnold's Bond efforts. Dump David Arnold on the next Bond production and get this young talented musician. The Incredibles soundtrack features far more superior material than the last Bond films. I was thrilled. It was magnificent. Brilliant.

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:15 PM

hi

First, it's michael Giacchino.

Second, why people don't understand that it's easier to reproduce the bond sound from the sixites than creating a new bond sound ? I also would love somtimes to hear the sixities sound over the next bond, but the series need to evolve on his own.

Just my two cents.


p.S.: I love whwat Giacchino did on the Alias series and the Incredibles.

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:11 PM

I love the style of the 'OHMSS' theme in this. I know it's an angle that David Arnold would produce, but I have to say that I'm not against it. In fact I like "back seat driver" from Tomorrow Never Dies. David Arnold excelled himself in this one.

I haven't seen "The Incredibles" yet, but I think it's worth the effort.

Cheers,


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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:29 PM

[mra](The OHMSS theme is not in The Incredibles. It was in the trailers though

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:32 PM

I saw The Incredibles this weekend as well and was stunned not only by Pixar's wonderful animation and Brad Bird's outta-da-park storyline. But by Michael Giacchino's marvelous score. It was like a James Bond soundtrack that we never got th hear. I know some people wnat 007 music to evolve with the series, but the techno-pop, bidda-bidda-bidda beat has been done to death. Arnold's scores' standout for their hyped James Bond theme and action sequences, but his music can be taken from one film and placed in another without much notice except to Bond Music-philes like us. Try showing Goldfinger with Thunderball's score. Barry had the classical training that let him evolve a central theme and weave it through the score, along with themes for the main characters. It was much like a symphony. You can close your eyes and know what's going on in the scene. Giacchino did the same with the Incredibles and mimiced that great Barry sound. It was too cool to watch new action sequences with the signature "wah-wah" trumpets or shattering brass "dent den dennnn! den den dent!" The scene where Mr Incredible is infiltrating Syndrome's island lair is pure James Bond. The music quite reminiscent of "Teasing the Korean" from Goldfinger and when he's sneaking through the jungle looking for the Omni-Droid it could be From Russia With Love or some of Thunderball's score. At the same time it was fresh, and very fun. I remember grinning from ear to ear. I agree with the others. Let David go out with Pierce and Samantha. Let's start with new Bond, new Moneypenny and new composer who knows what a James Bond film should sound like!