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[crashdrive]

[quote]Originally posted by Martini
Owen isn

[BONDFINESSE 007]

there is something about jackman, i dont know what, but i am not one who wants to see him as bond, cause i think that is to easy, and his name has been bandied around to much as it is, and there is just no shoe in at this point, with brosnan one could say he was born for the role but those days are over as i see them and there does not seem to be a savior out there, and that seems really sad, the two dalton films you could put an asterisk by* and say these two bonds that dalton plays in are technically pierce brosnan's and therefore the man playing bond is illegitimate...and he was, but having said that we dont even have a dalton out there now.
thank god pierce brosnan was able to claim his birthright in the form of goldeneye but what lies ahead of the bond series after brosnan....god only knows, i know i will always cherish the brosnan bonds no matter what happens from here on out, thank you pierce brosnan for what you have done for james bond, and for making this bond fan very very happy

[crashdrive]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
but what lies ahead of the bond series after brosnan....god only knows

I think EON is obviously facing one of its biggest challenges. Who could replace Brosnan? There are plenty of actors who could play James Bond, but how many would be a worth successor to Brosnan?

The way I see it, I don't think the next Bond will be a 'new Brosnan'. Instead, the next actor will be totally different. Just like Moore was different from Connery. And maybe that's not a bad thing. Don't forget, the Brosnan era lasted at least ten years. There's a whole new generation out there. They will accept the new actor, because, for many, the new Bond will be the Bond of their generation.

I agree that Jackman is not an inspired choice. He'll deliver the goods, but I have a feeling he just doesn't bring anything to the role, much like Lazenby. I love Dominic West, but again I'm not sure he can make the part his own. He definately has potential, no doubt about it. But one thing is for sure; there is no shoe-in. That's exactly the reason what makes this discussion so interesting. All bets are off fellas!

[marktmurphy]

Originally posted by Mister Asterix
I’m curious what you Brits think of James Marster’s (Spike on ‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’) accent. I’ve been told by a couple of Englanders that they had no idea that Spike was played by an American, but two opinions aren’t quite enough to get a general idea.

Englanders? Jawohl mein Captain!

I've only seen Buffy a couple of times but Marsters accent always seems pretty good - although it does slip a bit. He also seems to allow far too many Americanisms to go through his mouth for an Englishman- but then so did Patrick Stewart (pronouncing 'lieutenant' and 'en route' as they are spelt- over here we use the french pronounciation).
One that really confused me was Sean Bean letting De Niro pronounce Hereford as it is written in 'Ronin'. It should be pronounced 'Heh-ra-ford', and thats not exactly a small mistake as a whole county is named after it. And we don't have as many counties as the US!

[Mister Asterix]

Originally posted by marktmurphy (edited)
Englanders? Jawohl mein Captain!

I knew that would ruffle a feather or two.

[rafterman]

a lot of fakey accents are easy to peg, but I had no idea Spike was just some dude from California for a long time, I think it's probably the best British accent I've heard in a long time...as for Patrick Stewart and all those other guys, to me they sound like Brits not bothering to do a bad American accent, kind of like Connery never doing an accent other than his own...sometimes it's ok...

[BONDFINESSE 007]

Originally posted by crashdrive

I think EON is obviously facing one of its biggest challenges. Who could replace Brosnan? There are plenty of actors who could play James Bond, but how many would be a worth successor to Brosnan?

The way I see it, I don't think the next Bond will be a 'new Brosnan'. Instead, the next actor will be totally different. Just like Moore was different from Connery. And maybe that's not a bad thing. Don't forget, the Brosnan era lasted at least ten years. There's a whole new generation out there. They will accept the new actor, because, for many, the new Bond will be the Bond of their generation.

I agree that Jackman is not an inspired choice. He'll deliver the goods, but I have a feeling he just doesn't bring anything to the role, much like Lazenby. I love Dominic West, but again I'm not sure he can make the part his own. He definately has potential, no doubt about it. But one thing is for sure; there is no shoe-in. That's exactly the reason what makes this discussion so interesting. All bets are off fellas!

jackman is not worthy to tie brosnan's shoestrings letalone try and replace him, i dont know who it will be, but it will be interesting to see them scurry around an find someone...i wish em alotta luck

[BONDFINESSE 007]

oh how i wish brosnan was younger, so he could have 15 more years to play bond...moore played bond for 12 years, brosnan has done it 8 and if the next one comes out in 204 and he does bond 22 in 206 that will be 11 years total, so i would be very happy

[crashdrive]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
oh how i wish brosnan was younger, so he could have 15 more years to play bond...

But then Brosnan would have been too young to play Bond in 'GoldenEye'. It wasn't till 'Tomorrow Never Dies' Brosnan really matured into the part. Although some actors may not look picture perfect today, perhaps they will 6 six years from now.

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by crashdrive

But then Brosnan would have been too young to play Bond in 'GoldenEye'. It wasn't till 'Tomorrow Never Dies'  Brosnan really matured into the part. Although some actors may not look picture perfect today, perhaps they will 6 six years from now.

This is why in my mind he was not right for the part in 1986 . He look to "much like a pretty doll" . He grew or mature well after losing the part to Dalton . I feel that Dalton was perfect for the role in otder to move it away from the Moore "slapstick". When Brosnan took over in 1994/95 he was more mature plus had several years of hardliving behind him . By the time of TND , Crashdrive your right he was truly mature . And in TWINE he was Bond . No doubt about it.

[Simon]

I caught up with a Jackman film, namely Swordfish, (ah, Berry) and as above, he would service the role I guess but I'm not entirely convinced.

Does anyone think he looks like a very young Clint Eastwood?

He could do any number of spaghetti westerns.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

he does kinda remind me of a young clint eastwood, but as bond? dont think that would fit, and they most likely could not tie him down to a certain number of bond movies, so there again we would be looking for another bond after that. thats the trouble with 'big"stars...i will do one but i wont do 2 or i will do 2 but i wont do 3

[crashdrive]

I don't think Hugh Jackman is a big star yet. Apart from comicbook fans, hardly anyone knows who he is. He hasn't carried a film all by himself in the States. With 'Van Helsing', this could change, but we're not there yet. Jackman has said in interviews he would love to play Bond, so I doubt EON will not be able to 'tie him down' for three or more Bond pictures.

Personally, Jackman is one of the few actors I could live with. He's definately the only popular choice I could see playing Bond and I think at the moment he's the front-runner. It looks like he's the fan favorite aswell beating Clive Owen without a sweat.

[ray t]

Originally posted by rafterman
...kind of like Connery never doing an accent other than his own...sometimes it's ok...

um...i think connery was fine in dr no...no?

[ray t]

jackman, at the moment, is the ONLY OBVIOUS choice to take pierce's mantle. in 3 to 5 years someone else MAY become the ONE OBVIOUS choice....but not at the moment.

[M_Balje]

New Possible actor for Bond to talk about: Sebastian Spence

http://forums.comman...=&threadid=8693

[rubixcub]

Crashdrive-

The more I see Dominic West, the more wrinkly he seems to look. Not wrinkly per se, but he looks like his eyebrows applied for building permits to add on layers of arches. I just think he looks kind of weird and not right for the part. Sorry.

Dave

[crashdrive]

Originally posted by rubixcub
he looks like his eyebrows applied for building permits to add on layers of arches.

No need to apologize Dave. Haha, you certainly have a way of adding colour to your argument.

I agree he does look a little 'wrinkly'. Especially in the 'GQ' pictures. But those pictures were taken years ago. I think he looks great on this picture taken hardly a year ago. How this is possible, I have no idea.

But I can certainly understand why you'd think he doesn't look the part. Perhaps I will change my mind aswell after 'Mona Lisa Smile'. I've just watched his scenes from 28 Days and, although I agree he does look a little odd, I still think he would be a wonderfull candidate for the part.

[Martini]

It would be interesting to have a poll where only female fans are allowed to vote. Don

[crashdrive]

Owen definately not, but I'm sure many woman would love West. The only reason I can think of why he wouldn't get many votes is because he still very much unknown. The moment West will get more publicity in the media, he'll become one of the fans favorites. Mark my words. Watch 'The Wire' to see why I think West has so much potential.

[Mister Asterix]

I’ve changed my mind. After watching The Tuxedo with Jackie Chan I now think Jason Isaacs is the best choice to play the next 007. Isaacs’ role as Clark Devlin in The Tuxedo is a perfect screen test to see how he would play Bond. Devlin is a British superagent (who happens to live on Fleming street ). Essentially Devlin is Bond with enough changes to not warrant a lawsuit. And Isaacs looks are nearly dead perfect, the only flaw being a hairline higher than Dalton’s. I can’t recall ever seeing another actor who looks so much like the Bond that Fleming described.

Earlier this summer Isaacs was reported to have been cast in the role of Campion Bond in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Though it turned to be a rumour, he would have been perfect as 007’s forefather. and it’s a shame too because it may have been the perfect stepping stone to winning the general public’s support.

So I say dust of one of Connery’s hairpieces, and give this man a Walther.

[crashdrive]

Originally posted by Mister Asterix
So I say dust of one of Connery’s hairpieces, and give this man a Walther.

Personally I feel Isaacs lacks sex appeal. He wouldn't be convincing as a romantic leading man opposite highly attractive Bond girls. At 5'11 he's a little short and he turns 40 this year. That means he will be at least 44 when the part becomes available. Not to mention the fact that he's already losing his hair. I definately understand why you'd want him. I hear his James Bond audition back in 94 was amazing (footage got him the part in 'Armageddon'), but his time has passed and there are better more suitable candidates out there.

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by crashdrive

Not to mention the fact that he's already losing his hair. I definately understand why you'd want him. I hear his James Bond audition back in 94 was amazing (footage got him the part in 'Armageddon'), but his time has passed and there are better more suitable candidates out there.

It's a good thing that Bonds are British productions . This age thing would cause a major civil rights law suit . I never know he audtion for thr role in 1994 ! Just how good was it .

[ChandlerBing]

He's a nasty villain in the Patriot. If he were Bond, it would be all wrong. He's got too much negative baggage.

[Mourning Becomes Electra]

It's a good thing that Bonds are British productions . This age thing would cause a major civil rights law suit.  

Yeah there's no age discrimination in Hollywood that's for sure. LOL!!

But I agree with the discrimators, too old, even more than that he looks too old which is what counts even more. He also looks too much like Dalton. The public might have negative flashbacks. (yes I know... two negative Dalton posts in one day... I'm just living on the edge)

[Killmaster]

He was definitely evil in "The Patriot", which is why I see him as a Bond villain rather than Bond.

[ChandlerBing]

While we're on really daring choices for Bond, how about Crispin Glover?

[crashdrive]

I think the results of the poll are fascinating. Hugh Jackman seems to be the obvious winner. Twice as many votes as runner-up Clive Owen. Interesting that Owen and the None of the Above option received the same amount of votes.

Names like Jude Law, Ewan McGregor and Robbie Williams didn't receive a single vote (goes to show fans use more common sense than the 'Joe Publics' who voted in the 'Total Film' and 'Radio Times' polls).

I think the results deserve their own news item.

[Hotshot007]

He wasn't there,but Sean Bean.I know he was a villain and all but I'd like to see him as James Bond.

[Xenobia]

Originally posted by Hotshot007
He wasn't there,but Sean Bean.I know he was a villain and all but I'd like to see him as James Bond.

THAT is not a bad idea at all! He's certainly got the cold bloodedness down, and he is very attractive, but can he handle the humor?

-- Xenobia