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[Tarl_Cabot]

LOL!!!!!!!!! Jim is God.

[DLibrasnow]

I love this thread...it never fails to make me smirk!

[Blofeld's Cat]

X is for Xenon, a heavy inert gaseous element.

X is for Xoanon, a wooden image of deity supposed to have fallen from heaven.

X is for Xylem, a woody tissue (quiet, you).

Yes, I can see where these would fit into a critique of Die Another Day.

[MrDraco]

you know, honestly...please... i hope MGM drops the Jinx film and just gives us our own private show on HBO

[Tarl_Cabot]

Phffew!...I'm exhausted! I just finnished this thing finally! Where is the rest?

X is for XXX type of banality.

Y is for Yes, I'll be happy to see the series die unless they recast and reboot. New talent across the board, please.Now.

Z is for zero times I will ever watch Die Another Day again...

Comon' Jim, finnish this bible of the 21st centry please.

[Agent 76]

Z is for zero times I will ever watch Die Another Day again...

you've said it all

[Tarl_Cabot]

Jim?

[Tarl_Cabot]

Jim?

Please...finnish this masterpiece...

[SnakeEyes]

This must be finished.

It not only aptly describes the travesty that is DAD, but also shows the struggle of one man against life's woes to show he cares about something he used to enjoy so much he must be vocal about it, to the point of illustrating that if the things we care about are ruined then god help the people who ruined them, 'cos we'll take em to hell with us. (subtext )

This must be finished!

[stromberg]

This must be finished.

It not only aptly describes the travesty that is DAD, but also shows the struggle of one man against life's woes to show he cares about something he used to enjoy so much he must be vocal about it, to the point of illustrating that if the things we care about are ruined then god help the people who ruined them, 'cos we'll take em to hell with us. (subtext )

This must be finished!

I agree wholeheartedly.

But let's not try to push things. I'm sure Jim will finish it (oh please, will you, Jim? ), but I guess he won't hammer the remaining letters out like he did in the beginning. This thread pops up every once in a while, and I'm pleased everytime it does so. So, patience, folks!

It may just not be the right time to continue, given that it is well known what Jim thinks of Brosnan. In the very heated recent discussion, it might just cause some irritations and misunderstandings.

[Scottlee]

I only read A to about F because I'm at work and worried I won't have time to write reply before boss re-enters. However, I have enjoyed your writings, Jim. They're quite amusing in many places, if not always realistic.

The problem with a review like this is that it is completely one-sided. They're can't just be 50,000 negatives and 0 positives to DAD, but whatever those positives are you've chosen to omit them in order to give your negatives more venom. The A-Z format is also somewhat flawed. Inevitably you're going to pour hatred over something beginning with one letter just because you couldn't think of anything else that began with that letter. (Did anyone really watch DAD and notice the fact that Brosnan never left E for England? Puh-lease)

My personal opinion of DAD is a bit more 50-50. It's not my favourite by a long shot, but I did enjoy it. Apart from the atrocious para-surfboy bit, and the unoriginal snore-snore ending on the plane, there wouldn't be much else I would nitpick.

Edited by Scottlee, 17 February 2004 - 01:24 PM.

[Jim]

The problem with a review like this is that it is completely one-sided. They're can't just be 50,000 negatives and 0 positives to DAD, but whatever those positives are you've chosen to omit them in order to give your negatives more venom.

U is for Untrue, Not. But then this is in no way intended as a balanced, objective fair or decent analysis. It is a shambolic rant. Merely a bit of piffle about a bit of piffle. Anyone presenting it to you as a proper review has lied.

The A-Z format is also somewhat flawed. Inevitably you're going to pour hatred over something beginning with one letter just because you couldn't think of anything else that began with that letter. (Did anyone really watch DAD and notice the fact that Brosnan never left E for England? Puh-lease)

U is for Unbelieveably flawed, Actually I think the A-Z method is. But then that's part of the joke. It was never meant as anything remotely sensible. Again, don't listen to anyone who says it was. They're fibbers. Bad, bad people.

U is also for unoriginal snore-snore ending on the plane. Ooh, spoilsport. You jumped the gun there.

U is also for Ummm...There will be more U later. But for the moment, I shall take solace in Stromberg's eminently sensible analysis of the position and use that as my excuse (and not because I cannot think of anything. Not that at all. Oh no.)

[SnakeEyes]

"It may just not be the right time to continue, given that it is well known what Jim thinks of Brosnan. In the very heated recent discussion, it might just cause some irritations and misunderstandings."

More reason to continue in my opinion

[Tarl_Cabot]

YAY!!!!!!!

[Tarl_Cabot]

V is for vacuous, as in characters....

[ChandlerBing]

W-What the were the thinking?

[Tarl_Cabot]

dude!

[SnakeEyes]

...where's the rest of my alphabet?

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Your alphabet? Rather pushy of you.

If I were you, I wouldn't keep asking Jim to finish it. That's just indirectly asking him to purposely not complete it for the sake of irritating people. He'll get it done. Just be patient. Remember, it was about 9 or 10 months before it got started up again.

[SnakeEyes]

And my attention span is 9 - 10 seconds long. WHERE IS MY EXPLOSION!

Sorry I was overcome by 12-24 year old demographicitus then.

[Tarl_Cabot]

And my attention span is 9 - 10 seconds long. WHERE IS MY EXPLOSION!

Sorry I was overcome by 12-24 year old demographicitus then.

Nice.

[Loomis]

Bump.

[Tarl_Cabot]

ahhh thank you...the greatest thread on any site.Ever.

[DLibrasnow]

And why did you feel it necessary to renew this thread Loomis

[Tarl_Cabot]

I asked him to so I could share with a fellow Bond geek friend.

Besides, maybe Jim will get back to work on it.

[annita]

bump..

what a thread, great work Jim, maybe now after CR , you will look at DAD more kindly( not that it deserves it), but BrosnanBond is gone, and we finally have a Bond film with a good plot, great acting, and quality stunts.

this is an epic thread, hopefully Jim will continue

[marktmurphy]

Graves is presented as the worst type of British public schoolboy lout, a supposed mirror image of Bond. Well, this would be fine 'n' dandy were BrosnanBond actually like that. But no; all nice teeth and muttered dull one-liners, the concept doesn't work. The idea that Col. moon based his new persona on BrosnanBond is laughable. As subtext, that fails utterly. But another subext develops. That Gustav Graves is as close to Fleming's Bond as we've seen (and sorry to those who haven't read any of Fleming's books, but James Bond isn't all nicey nicey blarney grin teeth). Dalton almost had it, but lacked the breeding sneer. So BrosnanBond kills off James Bond. Did they really want that subext? If it was intended, it's as clear a signal as we're getting that there never will be a straight adaptation of FlemingBond and we have to put up with this blancmange for the rest of the series. Yeech.

Just dipping back into this, the greatest of any thread on CBn I think, for a touch more fun. Thankfully this section seems in hindsight to be the only place where Jim was wrong, and we can all be thankful for that. Can't help thinking that Toby STephens would have been so much better at playing Bond whenever I see this film now, but we've double O Dan now, so all's well with the world. Huzzah!

[dinovelvet]

Graves is presented as the worst type of British public schoolboy lout, a supposed mirror image of Bond. Well, this would be fine 'n' dandy were BrosnanBond actually like that. But no; all nice teeth and muttered dull one-liners, the concept doesn't work. The idea that Col. moon based his new persona on BrosnanBond is laughable. As subtext, that fails utterly. But another subext develops. That Gustav Graves is as close to Fleming's Bond as we've seen (and sorry to those who haven't read any of Fleming's books, but James Bond isn't all nicey nicey blarney grin teeth). Dalton almost had it, but lacked the breeding sneer. So BrosnanBond kills off James Bond. Did they really want that subext? If it was intended, it's as clear a signal as we're getting that there never will be a straight adaptation of FlemingBond and we have to put up with this blancmange for the rest of the series. Yeech.

Just dipping back into this, the greatest of any thread on CBn I think, for a touch more fun. Thankfully this section seems in hindsight to be the only place where Jim was wrong, and we can all be thankful for that. Can't help thinking that Toby STephens would have been so much better at playing Bond whenever I see this film now, but we've double O Dan now, so all's well with the world. Huzzah!

Wow, that is interesting. Was Toby Stephens literally playing the role of Fleming's James Bond? And only by a villain supposedly caricaturing and mocking James Bond do we get the "real" Bond? I never thought of it like that, I'll watch it with that in mind next time its on. I remember someone making a similar argument that Sean Bean's 006 was more Bond than Bond himself. I concur that Toby would have made a good Bond, I could definitely picture him in Casino Royale.