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[mattjoes]

I'm still not crazy about Smith's voice, but I really like the theme he and Napes composed. I like this song better than the last two. Skyfall was appropriately Bond-like, but a bit dull nonetheless. Another Way to Die was terribly dull.

I wish Newman had quoted Writing's on the Wall a few more times in the film.

Edited by mattjoes, 01 December 2015 - 05:38 PM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Sean Grady has done an excellent job of editing Lana Del Rey's "24" to fit the title sequence.



It's a massive improvement.

Indeed. That was actually stellar.

[AMC Hornet]

Kleinman's titles would have been vastly different if that had been the song.

 

Don't care for the song anyway - WotW's better left as it is.

[sharpshooter]

I wish Newman had quoted Writing's on the Wall a few more times in the film.

I would've liked that. It's use in the train sequence was shortened from what we hear in the soundtrack, too. 

[mattjoes]

I wish Newman had quoted Writing's on the Wall a few more times in the film.

I would've liked that. It's use in the train sequence was shortened from what we hear in the soundtrack, too. 

Not to mention that, sadly, the actual version of the theme heard in the train sequence is missing from the album. While the instrumental they included is quite similar, there are some slight differences. For instance, in the album version, the opening phrase is played on violins doubled by trumpets playing an octave below, whereas in the film version there are no trumpets in that moment, which lends the piece a more intimate and romantic sound. (Yep, I've watched Spectre more times than I care to count.)

In other scenes, Newman could've played with the theme a bit more, a la Bond Meets Stacey. It's a gorgeous, long-lined melody and suitable for a rearrangement.

Edited by mattjoes, 02 December 2015 - 09:32 PM.

[dtuba]

 

I wish Newman had quoted Writing's on the Wall a few more times in the film.

I would've liked that. It's use in the train sequence was shortened from what we hear in the soundtrack, too. 

Not to mention that, sadly, the actual version of the theme heard in the train sequence is missing from the album. While the instrumental they included is quite similar, there are some slight differences. For instance, in the album version, the opening phrase is played on violins doubled by trumpets playing an octave below, whereas in the film version there are no trumpets in that moment, which lends the piece a more intimate and romantic sound. (Yep, I've watched Spectre more times than I care to count.)

In other scenes, Newman could've played with the theme a bit more, a la Bond Meets Stacey. It's a gorgeous, long-lined melody and suitable for a rearrangement.

 

I know I'm not alone here when I say that Thomas Newman would not recognize a melody even if it landed on his head.

[SecretAgentFan]

Thankfully, Thomas Newman composes melodies within his head.  And beautiful melodies they are.

[dtuba]

Well maybe next time he will include them in the score. No, scratch that, he'll probably cut and paste from SF and SP soundtracks some more.

Edited by dtuba, 05 December 2015 - 03:13 AM.

[SecretAgentFan]

Think positive!

[DaveBond21]

I watched him singing it live on the Graham Norton show and it sounded really good.

 

[Vauxhall]

A Golden Globe nomination, no less...

Congratulations to them. Not my cup of tea, but a big success nevertheless.

[Guy Haines]

Sean Grady has done an excellent job of editing Lana Del Rey's "24" to fit the title sequence.

It's a massive improvement.

Indeed. That was actually stellar.

Hmm. Certainly a name for the next Bond theme, although the song sounded to my tin ear more like one of those themes from the 1960s Bond imitators than a Bond theme itself. But that's just me.

BTW - there is of course a plot spoiler in the titles.

[Harmsway]

Certainly a name for the next Bond theme, although the song sounded to my tin ear more like one of those themes from the 1960s Bond imitators than a Bond theme itself. But that's just me.

It's not just you, but I'd still take it over the Sam Smith dirge.

[Dustin]

In terms of marketing value - and it looks as if the song is now more a marketing tool than actual element of the film - the decision to give the gig to Smith was probably very effective. It created a huge buzz, some serious controversy and his fanbase pushed the song to the top in record time. Even the song itself has a certain je ne sais quoi; a catchy melody. One would just wish for a different voice and more of a climax, then it would go down much smoother. But I still think the titles themselves are the real letdown here. I knew what the song was like when I went to the theatre; but I wasn't prepared for the Cthulhu show and the somewhat lacklustre imagery. I'm probably spoiled by the other great titles of the Craig era.

[Guy Haines]

In terms of marketing value - and it looks as if the song is now more a marketing tool than actual element of the film - the decision to give the gig to Smith was probably very effective. It created a huge buzz, some serious controversy and his fanbase pushed the song to the top in record time. Even the song itself has a certain je ne said quoi; a catchy melody. One would just wish for a different voice and more of a climax, then it would go down much smoother. But I still think the titles themselves are the real letdown here. I knew what the song was like when I went to the theatre; but I wasn't prepared for the Cthulhu show and the somewhat lacklustre imagery. I'm probably spoiled by the other great titles of the Craig era.

I think I'm with you on the song Dustin, although I quite liked the titles - though they overdid the octopus imagery a bit!

[Dustin]

I don't know, those titles have a definite horror vibe to them, much like parts of the film. Perhaps I would want them to go the whole distance, to not hold back. The film itself does a similar trick in that it doesn't follow its horror elements through. At any rate I have trouble getting the titles and the song together, both seem to belong to different films.

And that octopus appears more in the titles than anywhere else in the story. I know it's supposed to be allegorical but these titles seem to suffer from To Kill A Mockingbird syndrome; there are simply too few octopi in the film to justify this animal with the eight helpful tentacles so prominently in the titles...

[SecretAgentFan]

Although I liked the song a lot the Golden Globe nomination made me chuckle.   

 

Then again, the Globes always amuse me.   THE MARTIAN as a musical/comedy...  

 

Best thing about the Globes: they asked Ricky Gervais back.

[Surrie]

I'm not a fan of the song, but seeing it with the title sequence did make it grow on me. Having said that, I don't think it's GG worthy! Although, nice for the franchise to get a little attention!

[SecretAgentFan]

GG worthy... um...  you know what the "Hollywood Press Association" is, right?  They are basically people who throw a party for stars every year and nominate those who will get the most press and are most likely to attend.

[Surrie]

I appreciate that - but I don't think 'Writing's on the Wall' is worthy of it.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, they just want to get Sam Smith to the show.  Also, it´s pretty hard to find enough film songs to nominate.

 

Again, I do like the song.

[Walecs]

I honestly don't get why so many people make so much fuss about Golden Globes and Academy Awars.

[Orion]

 it´s pretty hard to find enough film songs to nominate.

 

I was thinking about this the other day, film theme songs really are a dying breed, musicals have been a niche genre since the 60's and after a glut of them in the early noughties (Hero by Nickleback for Spider-man swings to mind), singers and bands doing theme tunes for films seems to have almost died out. 

[antovolk]

Merry Christmas from Radiohead:

https://soundcloud.c...diohead/spectre

 

(completely legit btw. Yorke tweeted it out today)

[Toxteth_OGrady]

Just listened to this via Radiohead's Facebook page.

Wonder what the story is here. Was their theme rejected by the producers? Sam Smith 2nd choice?

Merry Christmas everyone BTW!

[antovolk]

Set to the title sequence:

[Matt_13]

Those rumors were true too! Wow.

Amazingly I prefer Smith's effort, but still, this is a very cool development.

[Dustin]

Interesting. Still lacks a bit of a definite climax - might that have been a condition voiced by Eon? - but overall I think Thom Yorke's vocals better fit the eerie nature of the tune. Still no big fan of the titles but with this I like them a little better. No ear worm quality though.

[antovolk]

Also, I wonder if they read the script.....what I like about WOTW is how it really is written for not just any film called SPECTRE or whatever but this particular one. While from first listen to Radiohead's....they came up with something just around the title. Which tbh is alright given a lot of previous Bond songs did that.

 

Big thing to keep in mind - it seems like they finished the track in their own time after being rejected -  Yorke says in the tweets/description it "became something of [their] own". If EON went through with it I wonder how different it would've sounded compared to this effort

Edited by antovolk, 25 December 2015 - 02:03 PM.

[TheREAL008]

The Radiohead theme is off time and off the mark. Just...no.