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[tdalton]

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

[seawolfnyy]

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

These are all sound suggestions. I would argue that Silva is physically imposing even though we don't see him fight Bond. I, agree completely, about the novelty wearing thin with the DB5. The scene of it's unveiling in the warehouse would've been far better had the car not just appeared in 3 of the previous 6 films. I would be totally fine with Bond 24 having a female main baddie. We've only had 2 thus far in the series and both times there was another equally main villain (Grant with Klebb and Renard with Elektra). A snowy location would be good, Vancouver would be nice. I'd be fine with Italy if they were to use a snowy locale such as Torino. However, I wouldn't mind seeing Austria. We also don't need the references to past films. It gets boring and distracts from the film's plot. I would even argue that QoS has 2 references as major plot points.

 

Unrelated, I really wish people would stop whining about the damn gunbarrel placement. It's been annoying ever since the end of Quantum of Solace and Skyfall made well over $1 billion with the gunbarrel at the end so maybe there is something to it.

[RMc2]

 

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

These are all sound suggestions. I would argue that Silva is physically imposing even though we don't see him fight Bond. I, agree completely, about the novelty wearing thin with the DB5. The scene of it's unveiling in the warehouse would've been far better had the car not just appeared in 3 of the previous 6 films. I would be totally fine with Bond 24 having a female main baddie. We've only had 2 thus far in the series and both times there was another equally main villain (Grant with Klebb and Renard with Elektra). A snowy location would be good, Vancouver would be nice. I'd be fine with Italy if they were to use a snowy locale such as Torino. However, I wouldn't mind seeing Austria. We also don't need the references to past films. It gets boring and distracts from the film's plot. I would even argue that QoS has 2 references as major plot points.

 

Unrelated, I really wish people would stop whining about the damn gunbarrel placement. It's been annoying ever since the end of Quantum of Solace and Skyfall made well over $1 billion with the gunbarrel at the end so maybe there is something to it.

 

At the risk of starting a gunbarrel debate... I really think it works at the end of SF, rather beautifully (if only they'd included a muzzle flash!), but I can't hide my disappointment the first couple of times I saw SF and sighed, "At the end again." However, I think the audience, the Craig films - and Craig himself - have more than enough earned the right to a 'traditional' Bond film now ...and yeah yeah, I still want the gritty realism and bold storytelling, but the franchise is now in the weird position where a little bit more formula would actually be refreshing. Or at least reassuring. And I think that's pretty much what tdalton's list is saying, and I agree

[tdalton]

 

 

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

These are all sound suggestions. I would argue that Silva is physically imposing even though we don't see him fight Bond. I, agree completely, about the novelty wearing thin with the DB5. The scene of it's unveiling in the warehouse would've been far better had the car not just appeared in 3 of the previous 6 films. I would be totally fine with Bond 24 having a female main baddie. We've only had 2 thus far in the series and both times there was another equally main villain (Grant with Klebb and Renard with Elektra). A snowy location would be good, Vancouver would be nice. I'd be fine with Italy if they were to use a snowy locale such as Torino. However, I wouldn't mind seeing Austria. We also don't need the references to past films. It gets boring and distracts from the film's plot. I would even argue that QoS has 2 references as major plot points.

 

Unrelated, I really wish people would stop whining about the damn gunbarrel placement. It's been annoying ever since the end of Quantum of Solace and Skyfall made well over $1 billion with the gunbarrel at the end so maybe there is something to it.

 

At the risk of starting a gunbarrel debate... I really think it works at the end of SF, rather beautifully (if only they'd included a muzzle flash!), but I can't hide my disappointment the first couple of times I saw SF and sighed, "At the end again." However, I think the audience, the Craig films - and Craig himself - have more than enough earned the right to a 'traditional' Bond film now ...and yeah yeah, I still want the gritty realism and bold storytelling, but the franchise is now in the weird position where a little bit more formula would actually be refreshing. Or at least reassuring. And I think that's pretty much what tdalton's list is saying, and I agree

 

I don't think that my list really calls for the return of the formula at all.  If anything, I'd advocate them taking the formula and completely discarding it, which is what they should have done with Casino Royale, but unfortunately decided not to.  I would say, if anything, we've had too much formula in both Casino Royale and, especially, Skyfall.  The latter film is basically a 2+ hour commercial for the pre-Craig series, with the excessive nods to the past and the great lengths they go to in order to reintroduce two characters into the fold that were staples of the old formula (Q and Moneypenny), plus the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent.  I think that there can still be things like femma fatale henchwomen, exotic locations, and all of that, but it can be done in a way that doesn't feel as though it's all been assembled by checking off item after item on a checklist.

[QOS4EVER]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

[Hockey Mask]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

They discussed old vs new but in the end didn't old work with new?  Skyfall seemed to have a theme of old relinquishing to new but not so much the competition of.

[tdalton]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

 

I think the main problem with the theme of old versus new is that it comes so close to the beginning of this supposed "reboot".  Bond's a "rookie" just two films ago, and now he's been in the game too long, he's part of the old guard while the new is being brought in to replace the old.  That's something that would work further on down the line, maybe even leading into some kind of an adaptation of certain elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, but it doesn't really work as a part of the third film in a supposed reboot.

[The Shark]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

 

I think the main problem with the theme of old versus new is that it comes so close to the beginning of this supposed "reboot".  Bond's a "rookie" just two films ago, and now he's been in the game too long, he's part of the old guard while the new is being brought in to replace the old.  That's something that would work further on down the line, maybe even leading into some kind of an adaptation of certain elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, but it doesn't really work as a part of the third film in a supposed reboot.

 

Third film perhaps, but it is 4 (or possibly even 6) years on after QUANTUM OF SOLACE, and Bond is presumably in his mid-40s (close to retirement age according to Fleming's novels). Also, the whole reboot angle should be taken with a pinch of salt. There's too much meta-commentary on the series and in-jokes not only in SKYFALL, but also in the previous two films - for them to be considered a standalone entity. The grand old warship being potentially hauled away to scrap is not really Craig's Bond, but more the 50 year old series itself, what with the MGM bankruptcy and the usual slew of "Is James Bond past his sell-by date?" opinion pieces from The Guardian and what-not.

[tdalton]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

 

I think the main problem with the theme of old versus new is that it comes so close to the beginning of this supposed "reboot".  Bond's a "rookie" just two films ago, and now he's been in the game too long, he's part of the old guard while the new is being brought in to replace the old.  That's something that would work further on down the line, maybe even leading into some kind of an adaptation of certain elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, but it doesn't really work as a part of the third film in a supposed reboot.

 

Third film perhaps, but it is 4 (or possibly even 6) years on after QUANTUM OF SOLACE, and Bond is presumably in his mid-40s (close to retirement age according to Fleming's novels). Also, the whole reboot angle should be taken with a pinch of salt. There's too much meta-commentary on the series and in-jokes not only in SKYFALL, but also in the previous two films - for them to be considered a standalone entity. The grand old warship being potentially hauled away to scrap is not really Craig's Bond, but more the 50 year old series itself, what with the MGM bankruptcy and the usual slew of "Is James Bond past his sell-by date?" opinion pieces from The Guardian and what-not.

 

I would go a step further and say that the reboot nonsense shouldn't be taken with a pinch of salt at all, but that it really shouldn't even be considered.  EON never actually rebooted the series, but since they continually preach to us over and over again that they have rebooted the series, it would make sense, creatively, to not have their "rookie" Bond facing old age in the film immediately following the one in which they complete the whole "becoming the Bond we all know and love" arc.

Edited by tdalton, 21 February 2013 - 06:39 AM.

[NiallJS99]

Gadgets, car chases, villain wanting to destroy the world plot or something like that, henchman (jaws or oddjob type), proper Bond girl, good music, gun barrel and the start.

[TheSilhouette]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 the whole "old vs. new" theme in which the old is glorified while the new is made to look rather incompetent. 

Agreed! I hated the way that concept is portrayed in Skyfall. Gives it a rather dull feel IMO .

 

I think the main problem with the theme of old versus new is that it comes so close to the beginning of this supposed "reboot".  Bond's a "rookie" just two films ago, and now he's been in the game too long, he's part of the old guard while the new is being brought in to replace the old.  That's something that would work further on down the line, maybe even leading into some kind of an adaptation of certain elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, but it doesn't really work as a part of the third film in a supposed reboot.

 

Third film perhaps, but it is 4 (or possibly even 6) years on after QUANTUM OF SOLACE, and Bond is presumably in his mid-40s (close to retirement age according to Fleming's novels). Also, the whole reboot angle should be taken with a pinch of salt. There's too much meta-commentary on the series and in-jokes not only in SKYFALL, but also in the previous two films - for them to be considered a standalone entity. The grand old warship being potentially hauled away to scrap is not really Craig's Bond, but more the 50 year old series itself, what with the MGM bankruptcy and the usual slew of "Is James Bond past his sell-by date?" opinion pieces from The Guardian and what-not.

 

I would go a step further and say that the reboot nonsense shouldn't be taken with a pinch of salt at all, but that it really shouldn't even be considered.  EON never actually rebooted the series, but since they continually preach to us over and over again that they have rebooted the series, it would make sense, creatively, to not have their "rookie" Bond facing old age in the film immediately following the one in which they complete the whole "becoming the Bond we all know and love" arc.

Why do you feel that they didn't reboot the series? I think it's pretty clear that not only is it a reboot, but that some time has passed between QoS and Skyfall and that he's not really the "rookie" Bond. It seems to me like it's almost implied that they made a bit of a jump and skipped over a lot of Bond's career.

[JimmyBond]

That is true. Bond is Skyfall is presented as a veteran agent through and through. This is none to apparent when M mentions "You know the game, you've been playing it long enough by now...we both have." Paraphrased a bit, I'm sure, but it does drive home the point that Bond has been a double-oh for quite a while.

 

Now, what I want is some more involved set pieces. The opening and ending of Skyfall had some great action scenes, and I loved how during the film we only got quick bursts of action. That was fine for that film. For the next one I want something bigger, maybe not on the level of the Brosnan set pieces, but something akin to the Moore films. They had some great chase sequences, especially FYEO.

[007jamesbond]

Skyfall definately show Bond is not a rookie agent but a vet 00 agent at least with 6 years of experience........

[tdalton]

That is true. Bond is Skyfall is presented as a veteran agent through and through. This is none to apparent when M mentions "You know the game, you've been playing it long enough by now...we both have." Paraphrased a bit, I'm sure, but it does drive home the point that Bond has been a double-oh for quite a while.

 

Agreed.  And it's this that doesn't make any sense to me regarding the "reboot".  If you're going to reboot something, and show Bond as a rookie in the Double-oh section, at the start of his career and all of that, for the span of two films, then I just find it a bit inappropriate (in terms of the integrity of the character arc) to then start mining material from YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (which P&W have stated they looked toward) to show Bond as an agent on the downswing, seemingly at the end of his rope in the very next film.  It's just not a creative decision that makes any sense to me.  I want to see the elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN on the big screen as much as anybody, but I want to see them done correctly, and three films into a supposed "reboot" is not the time for such elements to be taking place, IMO.

 

With regards to why I say that EON didn't actually reboot the series, aside from a few lines of dialogue here and there, CASINO ROYALE is basically just another James Bond film.  Granted, the second half of the film is of a higher quality than a large chunk of the series, but it's still a standard Bond film.  If I knew nothing about the film going in, you could probably tell me that they lifted quite a bit of the first half of the film from an unfilmed Brosnan Era screenplay and I wouldn't doubt you at all.  My feeling is that, if you're going to reboot something, then tear it down to its foundation and start completely over again.  That's not at all what they did, IMO.  What they did was take the old framework and put a very nice coat of paint on it.  It's still the same, it just has a slightly different look to it, very much like when they recast Bond without the reboot.  

[RMc2]

My feeling is that, if you're going to reboot something, then tear it down to its foundation and start completely over again.  That's not at all what they did, IMO.  What they did was take the old framework and put a very nice coat of paint on it.  It's still the same, it just has a slightly different look to it, very much like when they recast Bond without the reboot.  

 

 

Tell that to the makers of The Amazing Spider-Man...

 

There is, of course, the argument that they reboot Bond every time they cast a new actor - but this isn't strictly true, as pre-Craig the character in each film was always partly defined by the events of the previous films (most notably through references to Tracey Bond, and Blofeld). A reboot doesn't have to be a complete reinvention of the franchise, just a press of the 'restart' button, where the character can be built back up again into whatever the filmmakers and current cultural trends require - even if that means they become the same character again. The only time a reboot has done a wholesale reconstruction as you define as a reboot is Batman Begins. Certain series, like Bond, can't get away with such a reconstruction unless the reboot is *outstandingly* good. But even then I wouldn't want to, and I really feel that audience expectation is the same - we want Bond, not someone else with the same name.

 

I agree that SF's decision to to skip forward in Bond's career, and tick more formula boxes than CR and QoS did, does annoyingly threaten to nullify the reboot.

 

For the record, I definitely consider CR a reboot because it goes back to Bond's beginning as a 00 without being a prequel (it is most definitely set in 2006) and re-focuses the franchise on storytelling and character, stripping away the more outlandish fantasy of the previous films in favour of hyper-realism and grit. It also has a much darker, serious vein to it which the series rarely chose to emphasise before. We all know that the early Connerys had realism, the Daltons had darkness and the Brosnans had drama (well, more than usual) - Lazenby had all three! - while the Moores touched upon all of those things in some manner, but there was no coherency to the approach and it was never the focus of the series as they tried their darnedest to shape it all into the same semi-timeless continuity. With the Craig films, they've completely reshifted that to focus on things the franchise rarely, if ever, chose to focus on, with a greater sense of humanism, and have wrapped it all up in a much more artistic approach to story-telling, which is most evident in SkyFall. So I consider the Craig films a reboot.

[Andrew]

- Keep the cinematography in the style of QoS and SKYFALL. For all of it's greatness, the look of CASINO ROYALE has always bothered me; it looks too sleek and plastic. The last two films have gotten the look spot on.

 

- Gun barrel back at the beginning.

 

- No more Bond back story. I think we've gone far enough into his history.

 

- A new ski sequence/snow action scene. It is one of the classic Bond hobbies.

 

- As others have said, a "race against time" mission where if 007 fails there will be serious consequences for the entire planet.

 

- Bond as a sniper.

 

- A score with some more brass and jazz to it.

 

- A classic ending with 007 and the leading lady in a compromising position.

 

- Leave the Mi6 crew in the office. Although given the names they've put in the roles of the Mi6 staff, I don't think this will happen.

 

- Bond being briefed on the mission in M's new office.

 

- The return of Felix. He doesn't have to be too prominent, just a scene or two.

 

- No personal vendettas or traitors.

 

- Bond back playing baccarat.

 

- A PTS unrelated to the main plot.

 

- A main villain that is older than Bond.

[DaveBond21]

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

 

 

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

 

 

• A plot with a larger scope than Skyfall, not just a film with the villain wanting revenge on M or wanting to be a banker to the world's terrorists.  It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, too terribly large in scope, but something where there's a very tangible threat to either a major resource or a world power.

 

• A villain or henchman that is physically imposing.  Craig's Bond has battled the cerebral types for three straight films, it's time for someone who can take him on, or perhaps surpass him, in combat.  Depending on how her acting career unfolds over the next year or so, I could see Gina Carano as a very good henchwoman.  We haven't had a good villainous female character since Xenia and it's about time to go in that direction again.

 

• A variety of locations.  Bond 24 should have at least one snowy location, even if it's just for an unrelated pre-title sequence.  Aside from that, I'd say stay away from Italy and South America in terms of locations, as we've seen those already (multiple times, in Italy's case) in the Craig films. 

 

• No nods to previous Bond films.  Skyfall is full of them and Quantum of Solace has a very major one as a key plot point.  After 50 years, it's time to start making new moments to be called back to if need be in the future, not continuing to have films that are littered with references to the old, as we've had to varying degrees now for four consecutive films.

 

• With the above in mind, perhaps a new car for Bond.  Or, if they're going to keep him in an Aston Martin, change it up a bit, even if it's only a slight change in the color of the car.  Also, if Aston Martin remains, keep him in a new Aston Martin.  The old DB5 doesn't need to be in every film, which causes the novelty of it to wear thin.

 

tdalton, very wise words, and I couldn't have put it better myself.

 

Also they continue to pursue the "revenge" angle and this has been going on since 1989 now but I think it's wishful thinking that it will not feature in Bond 24. Indeed I also expect to hear about a Bond girl who is 007'd equal and to see a new side to Bond in the next one.

 

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Also I think the gunbarrel at the start is gone forever....

 

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[QOS4EVER]

- Keep the cinematography in the style of QoS and SKYFALL. For all of it's greatness, the look of CASINO ROYALE has always bothered me; it looks too sleek and plastic. The last two films have gotten the look spot on.

 

What?! The cinematography and the style of Skyfall and QOS are poles apart. Qos and Casino Royale did have a similar feel though .

[007jamesbond]

A dangerous henchman bigger and stronger than Bond beats him in a hand to hand combat but in a second fight Bond wins 

[QOS4EVER]

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- A score with some more brass and jazz to it.

 

The Sharks are coming.

[007jamesbond]

love to home grown villain, a true English gentleman someone like Sir huga Drax in the novel moonraker who is rich, powerful, and connection to the government the last person expected to create a terror 

 

someone like Daniel Day Lewis would be good  

[JimmyBond]

As long as we're speaking of villains, I'd love someone who Craig could fight. Sure Bond fought Greene in QoS, but that was clearly a one-sided fight.

[tdalton]

As long as we're speaking of villains, I'd love someone who Craig could fight. Sure Bond fought Greene in QoS, but that was clearly a one-sided fight.

 

That certainly would be nice to see in Bond 24.  I doubt we'll actually see such a villain since it doesn't really fit the current direction that EON seems to want to take the franchise, but it would still be nice to see nonetheless.

[JohnnyWalker]

As long as we're speaking of villains, I'd love someone who Craig could fight. Sure Bond fought Greene in QoS, but that was clearly a one-sided fight.

 

That certainly would be nice to see in Bond 24.  I doubt we'll actually see such a villain since it doesn't really fit the current direction that EON seems to want to take the franchise, but it would still be nice to see nonetheless.

That's what henchmen are for.

[tdalton]

 

As long as we're speaking of villains, I'd love someone who Craig could fight. Sure Bond fought Greene in QoS, but that was clearly a one-sided fight.

 

That certainly would be nice to see in Bond 24.  I doubt we'll actually see such a villain since it doesn't really fit the current direction that EON seems to want to take the franchise, but it would still be nice to see nonetheless.

That's what henchmen are for.

 

The only problem with that is that EON hasn't used the henchmen in such a fashion since GoldenEye.  There's been one lame henchman after another since Xenia, with the two "henchmen" in the Craig films being among the weakest henchmen in the history of cinema (not hyperbole at all, I don't think, as Kratt and Elvis literally do nothing nor do they even speak).

 

There also needs to be some variety in the types of villains.  Bond needs to face a villain who can get in there and mix it up with him physically, rather than sitting behind a desk directing traffic.  We've had computer hackers, politicians, bankers, aristocrats, heiresses, and media barons as the last several villains, none of which were realistically capable of even going toe-to-toe with Bond in physical combat. Trevelyan and Sanchez break that mold when looking back at the series, but from there you'd have to go all the way back to perhaps Telly Savalas' Blofeld to find another such villain.  At least for the sake of variety, they need to give Bond a villain that could actually post a serious threat to him by doing more than simply pressing a button or waving his hand and having someone else go after Bond.

[occhile007]

I'll keep it short and sweet...

 

• Gunbarrel at the beginning
• Aston Martin (DB5, Vanquish or DBS)
• Walther PPK w/silencer
• Vodka Martini
• A bottle of Bollinger (two glasses of course)
• Omega Watch
• Two international hotties that can act
• M (Raiph Fiennes)
• Q (Ben Winshaw)
• Moneypenny (Naomie Harris) behind the desk
• Tanner
• a classic shot of MI6 from the water
• the leather door (you guys know what i mean)
• The classic James Bond hat throw as he walks into the office
• Universal Exports sign
• "The name's Bond, James Bond"
• Roger Deakins (director of photography)
• Stuart Baird (editing) because he doesn't chop shots up
• IMAX

I'll keep thinking of more. These are just the main "elements" I'd like to see. More to come...

[Commander E]

To be shot in 70mm.

Very unlikely.

[seawolfnyy]

To be shot in 70mm.

Very unlikely.

Unless by some fluke Christopher Nolan directs...

[x007AceOfSpades]

To be shot in 70mm.

Very unlikely.

Unless by some fluke Christopher Nolan directs...

 

Or Paul Thomas Anderson.

[RMc2]

I would so love Nolan to direct Craig's Bond.

 

Alas, I doubt it'll happen while Craig is Bond.

Edited by RMc, 26 February 2013 - 11:28 PM.