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Does it end where it all began?


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#91 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:48 AM

I agree - a solid, returning cast is part of the appeal for James Bond, it's part of the cinematic family and people fans can grow with, warm to and feel comfortable with knowing they will be back for future films.

It feels more real, more solid if more cast return to continue the story of 007 rather than new people everytime like every film is a re-boot, a re-vamp or a re-fresh of ideas.

#92 Royal Dalton

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 11:14 AM

Glad to see you've finally come over to the dark side, Shrubs. :)

#93 Shrublands

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

Glad to see you've finally come over to the dark side, Shrubs. :)



It was only a matter of time before I cracked. :)

#94 Vauxhall

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:16 AM

I guess this photo (courtesy of univex) also belongs in this thread: http://www.imagebam....c79042213098445 and emphatically answers Shrublands' question "Does it end where it all began?" with a resounding "yes!"

Assuming that Mallory will be sat behind the desk, how do we expect that scene to pan out? A simple greeting, a new set of orders for Bond to tee up BOND 24, or something else entirely?

#95 JimmyBond

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:18 AM

I would love it to go something like this:

Bond enters

M: Sit down 007

Bond sits down, M pulls out a file.

M: Seems Quantum is making trouble again....

Fade Out as Bond leans in to begin the briefing.

#96 Vauxhall

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:41 AM

Yes, I wouldn't be too opposed to that idea or something similar. I'm guessing the general sense of the scene will be showing that it's all 'business as usual' for Bond, despite the apparent recent appointment of a new boss.

I'd been racking my brains to see if there were any specific lines from the M briefing scene from DR NO that could be easily slotted in, but I'm not sure there is. I suppose they might have the red and green lights above M's door to indicate when Bond can enter from Moneypenny's office.

#97 Royal Dalton

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:57 AM

I reckon the film will end in the outer office, with the line: "Moneypenny. Miss Moneypenny."

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:38 AM

They seem to like ending on a Craig line, so that's what I expect. And I agree with Vauxhall that the final note will be one of "back to business". Perhaps, instead of showing the aftermath of the events of Skyfall, this final scene will show M sending Bond off on a new mission, which we never get to see. I don't think a Bond film has ever ended with Bond beginning a mission, has it? Might be fun, in a middle-fingery sort of way.

I guess this photo (courtesy of univex) also belongs in this thread: http://www.imagebam....c79042213098445 and emphatically answers Shrublands' question "Does it end where it all began?" with a resounding "yes!"

Assuming that Mallory will be sat behind the desk, how do we expect that scene to pan out? A simple greeting, a new set of orders for Bond to tee up BOND 24, or something else entirely?


One thing occurred to me on seeing that photo of the office. If they wanted to slip in a very obscure and surreptitious Dr No reference, they could have the first scene in Mallory's office take place at 3:00 AM. No comment, no wink, just a clock on the wall.

#99 Vauxhall

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:41 AM

One thing occurred to me on seeing that photo of the office. If they wanted to slip in a very obscure and surreptitious Dr No reference, they could have the first scene in Mallory's office take place at 3:00 AM. No comment, no wink, just a clock on the wall.

I briefly had the same thought actually. I guess we've all been assuming that the office scene immediately follows Bond and Eve on the Westminster rooftop, but there's no guarantee of that. The clock set to 3am would be a nice touch.

#100 Shrublands

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 03:33 AM

Judging by the lighting set up in the Bond on Set book, I'd say they are simulating daylight through the windows.

I also think it's interesting that Rory Kinnear's Tanner is in the scene.

#101 Royal Dalton

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:22 AM

Tanner and Moneypenny are both in the M scene in Casino Royale (the novel). Maybe they're literally going back to where it all began, and drawing some inspiration from that?

#102 Vauxhall

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Didn't know that Tanner looks to be in the scene too. That's great news. There's a really good opportunity for the writers to create fresh dynamics for the new guard at MI6 in BOND 24 (Bond, M, Moneypenny, Q, Tanner) and see how they all interact. I'm particularly keen to see how Fiennes and Whishaw play off each other.

#103 Vauxhall

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:39 PM

For those interested, based on a photo in Bond on Set, the production designs on Dennis Gassner's office wall describe the final two Whitehall sets of the film as "Eve's Office" and "Mallory's Office".

We can naturally extrapolate that to mean "Moneypenny's Office" and "M's Office". ;)

#104 MattofSteel

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:29 PM

Right. She's rather obviously Moneypenny, then. Good show.

#105 Pussfeller

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:12 PM

For those interested, based on a photo in Bond on Set, the production designs on Dennis Gassner's office wall describe the final two Whitehall sets of the film as "Eve's Office" and "Mallory's Office".

We can naturally extrapolate that to mean "Moneypenny's Office" and "M's Office". ;)


It sounds like Bond on Set contains a lot of spoilers. That's the first thing I've heard that really strikes me as confirmation of Eve = Moneypenny. I suppose it's still possible that her surname will be something else, but there's no doubt that she'll be "the Moneypenny".

#106 Matt_13

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

I really hope the last scene ends on a bit of a cliffhanger. It looks like we'll have the full staff in order, but what I want is a big reveal.

" Sit down, 007. I've something new for you."

" A mission?"

M pushes forward a folder reading "For Your Eyes Only."

" A man. Ernst Stavro Blofeld."

Bond looks up at M as he breaks open the folder, cut to the outer window as the camera pans up over the Whitehall office exterior and settles on London, slowly fading to black.

....One can dream.

#107 Guy Haines

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:16 PM

I really hope the last scene ends on a bit of a cliffhanger. It looks like we'll have the full staff in order, but what I want is a big reveal.

" Sit down, 007. I've something new for you."

" A mission?"

M pushes forward a folder reading "For Your Eyes Only."

" A man. Ernst Stavro Blofeld."

Bond looks up at M as he breaks open the folder, cut to the outer window as the camera pans up over the Whitehall office exterior and settles on London, slowly fading to black.

....One can dream.


I wouldn't mind that either. All that's missing from the "reboot" era is Bond's most infamous adversary. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime between now and Bond 25 he finally turns up, though not as we expect.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:07 AM

It would be better if brought back they'd name the character Guntram Shatterhand or Serge Ångström. That would eliminate associations to Dr Evil in the minds of general public but we Bond fans would know of whom they're talking about - Moriarty of the Bond Universe.

My guess is that the movie ends with Bond entering the room with a padded leather door and sitting opposite Ralph Fiennes who is wearing a grey suit and a black tie and possibly holding a pipe.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 15 October 2012 - 02:13 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:11 AM

I think I would stand up and clap if Fiennes was also seen smoking a pipe. It would be a moment where I'd just lose it.

#110 JCRendle

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:03 AM

I think I would stand up and clap if Fiennes was also seen smoking a pipe. It would be a moment where I'd just lose it.

Unfortunately, with the smoking ban here in the UK, I doubt we'd see someone like Mallory defying the government by smoking in a government building.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:03 AM

Maybe he could be blowing bubbles out of it.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:11 AM

Maybe he could be blowing bubbles out of it.

eh eh, wouldn´t that be a sight?

#113 S K Y F A L L

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:13 AM

I was so surprised to see Severine smoking in SF, I never would have guessed it.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:04 AM

Skyfall could end in the old familiar M room, which I think is a very cool idea. Have Bond walk in, a voice say "Moneypenny, bring me the file we were just discussing".... a female voice over an intercom; "right away"...and then an envelope is handed to 007.....

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I have to say, while I wasn't really expecting it back when I made the above post and Photoshopped the picture - I came pretty close to the actual end of the film. Personally though - I'm very glad it wasn't SPECTRE. Even more perfect - we actually meet Moneypenny. My love for her is well documented on the non spoiler side.

For me personally, the last five minutes of Skyfall are the best James Bond moment I've ever experienced in my 40+ years of fandom. I literally had chills at how perfect it all was.

#115 Iceskater101

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:15 AM

^ Me too! I loved how they brought back some of the classics, even that door is a classic.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:31 AM

It would be better if brought back they'd name the character Guntram Shatterhand or Serge Ångström. That would eliminate associations to Dr Evil in the minds of general public but we Bond fans would know of whom they're talking about - Moriarty of the Bond Universe.

My guess is that the movie ends with Bond entering the room with a padded leather door and sitting opposite Ralph Fiennes who is wearing a grey suit and a black tie and possibly holding a pipe.


Boy you nailed the ending! Now you know why I don't read spoilers before watching the movie! :)

#117 Iceskater101

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:49 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't want Blofeld or any villain to be rebooted? I feel like there should be new original ideas. I mean maybe spectre can appear, but no one by the name of Blofeld.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:31 AM

I'm with Ice on this one. No Blofeld and no SPECTRE. That stuff was silly when it was happening, it would be downright ridiculous now. They are spot on with their current vision of terrorists as the antagonists (both global and local). It fits the world we live in and makes for stories that are much more realistic.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

Or before they bring back spectre they should bring back quantum.

#120 DaveBond21

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 05:18 AM

 

Skyfall could end in the old familiar M room, which I think is a very cool idea. Have Bond walk in, a voice say "Moneypenny, bring me the file we were just discussing".... a female voice over an intercom; "right away"...and then an envelope is handed to 007.....

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I have to say, while I wasn't really expecting it back when I made the above post and Photoshopped the picture - I came pretty close to the actual end of the film. Personally though - I'm very glad it wasn't SPECTRE. Even more perfect - we actually meet Moneypenny. My love for her is well documented on the non spoiler side.

For me personally, the last five minutes of Skyfall are the best James Bond moment I've ever experienced in my 40+ years of fandom. I literally had chills at how perfect it all was.

 

 

Not only did you nail the ending, you also got the title of the next movie right!