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#61 Shrublands

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

Fair point. But I don’t think so. It was on M’s desk during the PTS, if that’s where... let’s say the missing flash-drive has been all along, it would be equally underwhelming.

#62 univex

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

Maybe it´s a macguffin? Nah, we´re just grasping at straws here, probably.

#63 Skudor

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:56 PM

It's an antique, used as a paperweight, in reality it acts as a key for a secret vault the Tower of London - where the Queen keeps her undies.

#64 Shrublands

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:56 PM

Maybe it´s a macguffin? Nah, we´re just grasping at straws here, probably.



Well, they are used for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands.

#65 Vauxhall

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:01 PM

Just seen the Barbican exhibition. The information next to the padded doors specifically refers to how they're intended to replicate the offices in the government buildings around Whitehall. Hmm...

#66 Royal Dalton

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:27 PM

Strange, though, if they're making a point of linking this in with Dr. No, that they seem to have used the door from the later films as a template, rather than the original one.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:31 PM

Maybe the original looked too anachronistic?

#68 Royal Dalton

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:46 PM

Mendes should have said it makes a loop with The Spy Who Loved Me, then.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:08 PM


Maybe it´s a macguffin? Nah, we´re just grasping at straws here, probably.

Well, they are used for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands.

Astounding ;) Prodigious Lamarckism right there.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:07 AM

as someone suggest that there was a picture of M's door at 56 sec where is it exactly? I cant see it!

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That looks more like the upholstered chair in M's office in The Man With The Golden Gun.

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Edited by 201050, 28 July 2012 - 01:28 AM.


#71 Vauxhall

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:32 AM

The finished article is being displayed at the Bond exhibition at the Barbican, and it's certainly a door.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:01 AM


I simply can’t understand people thinking it might have something as mundane as a paperweight in it. Wouldn’t that be just so underwhelming?
Bond stands on a roof top overlooking London, with a serious expressing hands over an old china bulldog. The audience gasps!!!


Unless it's not just a paperweight.


A piggy bank? LOL No but I was thinking the same thing, perhaps the BULLDOG is meaningless however somethings is inside of it..........

Something M wanted to give to Bond without anyone really knowing.

#73 univex

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:07 PM

Something M wanted to give to Bond without anyone really knowing.

Union Jack Knickers for sure.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:33 PM


Something M wanted to give to Bond without anyone really knowing.

Union Jack Knickers for sure.


I can see that playing out very well,
some inside thing we don't know about yet between Bond and M.
Then he gets the UNION JACK KNICKERS and cut too scene of him dancing like in the Austin Powers film.

And when he takes off his pants the Bond theme plays like when Bond's parachute opens in TSWLM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wBlpm0HQ2I

#75 univex

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:13 PM

Good God man!

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:26 AM

Something M wanted to give to Bond without anyone really knowing.


A bloody good shag?

#77 201050

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

The finished article is being displayed at the Bond exhibition at the Barbican, and it's certainly a door.

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Certainly. Moonraker door perhaps?

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#78 Royal Dalton

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:45 PM

I don't think Mallory's a villain. I think Bond's just saved his life in that shot where he does the wink.

The wink meaning: "You were wrong to doubt me."

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:25 PM

I don't think Mallory's a villain. I think Bond's just saved his life in that shot where he does the wink.

The wink meaning: "You were wrong to doubt me."

Yes, and that will undoubtedly form the basis for their relatioship as 00 agent and ...new M (?)

#80 Vauxhall

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

I think there could be a series of twists and turns where we dislike Mallory, then we and Bond are encouraged to trust him, before a final villainous pay-off that spells misfortune. The only thing that seems clear is that his character won't be cut and dried simply at all; he'll be a real puzzler and we'll be kept guessing right to the final scene.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:48 PM

I think there could be a series of twists and turns where we dislike Mallory, then we and Bond are encouraged to trust him, before a final villainous pay-off that spells misfortune. The only thing that seems clear is that his character won't be cut and dried simply at all; he'll be a real puzzler and we'll be kept guessing right to the final scene.

In which 007 enters the old office only to find him smoking a charatan? ;) "Come in 007"..."Miss. Moneypenny, ..."

#82 Shrublands

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

I don't think Mallory's a villain. I think Bond's just saved his life in that shot where he does the wink.

The wink meaning: "You were wrong to doubt me."


I think Bond is winking at Eve there, the trailer is just cut to make it look like Mallory.

She could be struggling with someone, Bond's aim has been off during the film, it reflects the PTS - But he winks, takes the shot and kills the bad guy. Something like that.

She is crouched in the general direction of where he winks, you can see her brifly in another shot from that room.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:16 PM


I don't think Mallory's a villain. I think Bond's just saved his life in that shot where he does the wink.

The wink meaning: "You were wrong to doubt me."


I think Bond is winking at Eve there, the trailer is just cut to make it look like Mallory.

She could be struggling with someone, Bond's aim has been off during the film, it reflects the PTS - But he winks, takes the shot and kills the bad guy. Something like that.

She is crouched in the general direction of where he winks, you can see her brifly in another shot from that room.


Would make for a nice touch given she missed her shot when Bond was struggling with Patrice. Sort of "This is how it´s done"

#84 AMC Hornet

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:14 PM

How about this?

Bond enters the ante-office of his new interim chief. Moneypenny (Naomi Harris or whoever) announces him over the intercom.The green light comes on over the padded leather door. Bond steps into the familiar, classic office. POV is from the opposite corner of the room.

We only see the top of a balding head over the back of M's chair (shades of '#1' in FRWL & YOLT).
One line of dialogue:
"Have a sheat, double-0-sheven."

Cut to black, roll credits.
(Shades of Robion Hood, Prince of Thieves)

An old dream, I know, but as this M would only be an interim replacement, the next screenwriter & director wouldn't have to follow up on it.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:44 AM

What a long shot AMC...BUT, somewhat a brilliant touch that would be a very smart nod to the franchise.

Here's hoping anyway!

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:29 PM

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

How about this?

Bond enters the ante-office of his new interim chief. Moneypenny (Naomi Harris or whoever) announces him over the intercom.The green light comes on over the padded leather door. Bond steps into the familiar, classic office. POV is from the opposite corner of the room.

We only see the top of a balding head over the back of M's chair (shades of '#1' in FRWL & YOLT).
One line of dialogue:
"Have a sheat, double-0-sheven."

Cut to black, roll credits.
(Shades of Robion Hood, Prince of Thieves)

An old dream, I know, but as this M would only be an interim replacement, the next screenwriter & director wouldn't have to follow up on it.

I could never see Connery playing M, however, I've always thought Timothy Dalton would make a great M.

#88 Shrublands

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

I’ve talked about being suspicious of Malory – I think I no longer am, due to things that have come to light in the recent TV spot and the Bond on Set book.

In Skyfall I imagine we will watch his character develop impressively. To begin with, he will come across as something of an irritating bureaucrat and to some extent be one. The embodiment of the internal threat to MI6 talked about in the more recent synopsys.

However, when the chips are down, we will discover that there is much more to him and he will display heroism, gaining our respect.
But also, Mallory himself will gain greater respect for the dangers and difficulties of being part of MI6 as the story progresses.

By the film's end, I now fully expect to see him sitting behind the desk in the traditional M’s office – with a rather satisfying conclusion to the film’s themes of the old giving way to the new, resurrection and rebirth.

M is dead, long live M – if you will.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:38 AM

Quite right. I've had a couple of small doubts about Mallory over the course of the production, but I think we're now at a stage that him being a rogue character would be too obvious. As you say, he'll be a character that the audience (and Bond) is supposed to instantly dislike, but will win us over during the course of the movie by springing to M's defence both literally and figuratively, before taking on the mantle himself.

The idea that the producers may very well have nailed down the following core cast for BOND 24 is pretty exciting:
  • James Bond - Daniel Craig
  • M - Ralph Fiennes
  • Moneypenny - Naomie Harris
  • Q - Ben Whishaw


#90 Shrublands

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:47 AM

The idea that the producers may very well have nailed down the following core cast for BOND 24 is pretty exciting:

  • James Bond - Daniel Craig
  • M - Ralph Fiennes
  • Moneypenny - Naomie Harris
  • Q - Ben Whishaw


Yep - that's extremely exciting.

As you say, he'll be a character that the audience (and Bond) is supposed to instantly dislike, but will win us over during the course of the movie by springing to M's defence both literally and figuratively, before taking on the mantle himself.


I think this also fits in with that early rumour that they needed an actor of "dexterity" to pull off Mallory convincingly.