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[Royal Dalton]

The Bond set is probably region-free and the Hitchcock set almost definitely will be, since Universal don't usually region-lock their Blu-ray discs.

I don't think the Region B Bonds will have the mono tracks. Better to wait for the early reviews to come in, though.

[scaramunga]

The Bond set is probably region-free and the Hitchcock set almost definitely will be, since Universal don't usually region-lock their Blu-ray discs.

I don't think the Region B Bonds will have the mono tracks. Better to wait for the early reviews to come in, though.

Thanks. I was hearing Region B UK would drop the mono and original audio tracks due to space? That sux for Region B users.
I'll maybe have to wait and get more confirmation. Boy, I'm really close to canceling my order for the Region A set.

Thanks for the info on Hitchcock. maybe I'll just order that one for now and cancel 007.

[scaramunga]

Hoping reviews of Bond 50 start very soon.

[col_007]

The Bond set is probably region-free and the Hitchcock set almost definitely will be, since Universal don't usually region-lock their Blu-ray discs.

I don't think the Region B Bonds will have the mono tracks. Better to wait for the early reviews to come in, though.

Thanks. I was hearing Region B UK would drop the mono and original audio tracks due to space? That sux for Region B users.
I'll maybe have to wait and get more confirmation. Boy, I'm really close to canceling my order for the Region A set.

Thanks for the info on Hitchcock. maybe I'll just order that one for now and cancel 007.

blu ray discs are huge compare to DVD no excuse for that surely ???

[scaramunga]

The Bond set is probably region-free and the Hitchcock set almost definitely will be, since Universal don't usually region-lock their Blu-ray discs.

I don't think the Region B Bonds will have the mono tracks. Better to wait for the early reviews to come in, though.

Thanks. I was hearing Region B UK would drop the mono and original audio tracks due to space? That sux for Region B users.
I'll maybe have to wait and get more confirmation. Boy, I'm really close to canceling my order for the Region A set.

Thanks for the info on Hitchcock. maybe I'll just order that one for now and cancel 007.

blu ray discs are huge compare to DVD no excuse for that surely ???

I think the HD audio files are very large though. Maybe someone in Region B UK can speak to this better?

[Royal Dalton]

No, they just don't give a crap.

Just look at the Blu-ray of "Chinatown" as an example.

US Region A extras:

Audio Commentary with Robert Towne and David Fincher
Documentary: "Water and Power" (78 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': An Appreciation" (26 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': The Beginning and the End" (19 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': Filming" (26 minutes)
Featurette: 'Chinatown': The Legacy" (10 minutes)
Theatrical Trailer

Audio:

English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
English: Dolby TrueHD Mono
French: Dolby Digital Mono
Spanish: Dolby Digital Mono
Portuguese: Dolby Digital Mono

UK Region B extras:

Zilch.

Audio:

English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
French Mono
German Mono
Italian Mono
Spanish Mono

[scaramunga]

No, they just don't give a crap.

Just look at the Blu-ray of "Chinatown" as an example.

US Region A extras:

Audio Commentary with Robert Towne and David Fincher
Documentary: "Water and Power" (78 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': An Appreciation" (26 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': The Beginning and the End" (19 minutes)
Featurette: "'Chinatown': Filming" (26 minutes)
Featurette: 'Chinatown': The Legacy" (10 minutes)
Theatrical Trailer

Audio:

English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
English: Dolby TrueHD Mono
French: Dolby Digital Mono
Spanish: Dolby Digital Mono
Portuguese: Dolby Digital Mono

UK Region B extras:

Zilch.

Audio:

English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
French Mono
German Mono
Italian Mono
Spanish Mono

Hmm. What are the audio files included for some of the previously issued James Bond blu rays? That is the older ones like Live and Let Die and For Your Eyes Only?

I still think there are spacing issues for Region B. That makes sense to me. Mono tracks don't take a lot of room, but if you have to include multiple DTS MA tracks that is going to take up quite a bit of room.
I'm sure there is a bit of cost in there as well. Perhaps this is why the US set is more then the UK version.

Edited by scaramunga, 11 September 2012 - 12:01 PM.

[lechero]

20th Century Fox Launches 'James Bond' 50th Anniversary Blu-Ray Set With Roger Moore




http://www.hollywood...es-james-369774

[Marketto007]

[S K Y F A L L]

That's awesome!

[Henry-Jones-Sr]

Good old Rog.

[thecasinoroyale]

Thank god we have a passionate mascot for the James Bond series still willing to get behind the celebrations! Looks like a great little Blu Ray box!

Fab pic!

[scaramunga]

Thank god we have a passionate mascot for the James Bond series still willing to get behind the celebrations! Looks like a great little Blu Ray box! Fab pic!

Agreed! This coming a day after Connery says he will not take part in any Bond promotions for the 50th!

Roger Moore has been a true asset to the James Bond film franchise!!!

Still my favorite James Bond of all time too!!!

What a cool promotional event too!

[col_007]

[Royal Dalton]

I still think there are spacing issues for Region B. That makes sense to me. Mono tracks don't take a lot of room, but if you have to include multiple DTS MA tracks that is going to take up quite a bit of room.

There's no real need for the additional language tracks to be in DTS 5.1, though. If they were DD 5.1 (as I think they are on the US discs), there'd be enough room to get the Mono tracks on there as well.

[DamnCoffee]

Oh Roger. I love this man!

[scaramunga]

I still think there are spacing issues for Region B. That makes sense to me. Mono tracks don't take a lot of room, but if you have to include multiple DTS MA tracks that is going to take up quite a bit of room.

There's no real need for the additional language tracks to be in DTS 5.1, though. If they were DD 5.1 (as I think they are on the US discs), there'd be enough room to get the Mono tracks on there as well.

Here's what blu ray.com had for Region B Moonraker..
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
French: DTS 5.1
German: DTS 5.1
Czech: Dolby Digital 5.1

and here is the Region A Moonraker audio
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
English: Dolby Digital 2.0
French: Dolby Digital 5.1
Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1

So I'm a bit puzzled now too. I don't think DD tracks don't take up as much room as DTS_HD MA so I'm not sure what the deal is for not including the original audio on the Region B blu rays...

Could be space, but it would be nice to know this for sure.
Could be cost as well. But I think that's a weaker speculation.

[thecasinoroyale]

Three cheers for Sir Roger Moore! Hurrah!

I can't wait get my honds on this set, it does look very slick I have to say.

[oatesy]

I still think there are spacing issues for Region B. That makes sense to me. Mono tracks don't take a lot of room, but if you have to include multiple DTS MA tracks that is going to take up quite a bit of room.

There's no real need for the additional language tracks to be in DTS 5.1, though. If they were DD 5.1 (as I think they are on the US discs), there'd be enough room to get the Mono tracks on there as well.

Here's what blu ray.com had for Region B Moonraker..
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
French: DTS 5.1
German: DTS 5.1
Czech: Dolby Digital 5.1

and here is the Region A Moonraker audio
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
English: Dolby Digital 2.0
French: Dolby Digital 5.1
Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1

So I'm a bit puzzled now too. I don't think DD tracks don't take up as much room as DTS_HD MA so I'm not sure what the deal is for not including the original audio on the Region B blu rays...

Could be space, but it would be nice to know this for sure.
Could be cost as well. But I think that's a weaker speculation.

DTS 5.1 (not HD) runs at 1536 kbps, versus 448kpbs for DD 5.1 and 192kbps for DD2.0 so the audio tracks on the Region B will take more space. If I recall correctly, there were also a lot more subtitle tracks on the Region B versus Region A which will take up further space.

Edited by oatesy, 13 September 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[scaramunga]

I still think there are spacing issues for Region B. That makes sense to me. Mono tracks don't take a lot of room, but if you have to include multiple DTS MA tracks that is going to take up quite a bit of room.

There's no real need for the additional language tracks to be in DTS 5.1, though. If they were DD 5.1 (as I think they are on the US discs), there'd be enough room to get the Mono tracks on there as well.

Here's what blu ray.com had for Region B Moonraker..
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
French: DTS 5.1
German: DTS 5.1
Czech: Dolby Digital 5.1

and here is the Region A Moonraker audio
Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
English: Dolby Digital 2.0
French: Dolby Digital 5.1
Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1

So I'm a bit puzzled now too. I don't think DD tracks don't take up as much room as DTS_HD MA so I'm not sure what the deal is for not including the original audio on the Region B blu rays...

Could be space, but it would be nice to know this for sure.
Could be cost as well. But I think that's a weaker speculation.

DTS 5.1 (not HD) runs at 1536 kbps, versus 448kpbs for DD 5.1 and 192kbps for DD2.0 so the audio tracks on the Region B will take more space. If I recall correctly, there were also a lot more subtitle tracks on the Region B versus Region A which will take up further space.

Ok. So essentially what are the sizes of the total files for DVD and Blu ray? Is there a simple way to explain this and a side by side comparison of the 2 formats?

[Royal Dalton]

These are the DVD audio file sizes for OHMSS and Casino Royale:

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - DD 2.0 (Mono) - 236MB
Casino Royale - DD 5.1 - 477MB
Casino Royale - DTS 5.1 - 803MB

I don't know if the file sizes would be any different for Blu-ray. But it's all relative, anyway.

[Syndicate]

Oh well I guess as of now there no individual blu-ray box sets at all, even as more news comes out. And as the release date appoaches. When ever they come out with it is when ever. Maybe I'll just go get the Blu-rays I still need.

[col_007]

Some one already has it in Holland

http://cd-dvd.marktp...fta_ind=12&fs=1

[lechero]

Just found these pictures of the German Bond Set on cinefacts.de forums (the Swiss always get early delivery, it seems..)

also... die box ist 28 x 18 x 4 cm (L x H x T) gross.

mein briefkasten hat unten noch so ein zusätzliches grösseres fach. bei uns in der schweiz nennt sich das milchkasten... wie sollte es auch anders sein

die box ist zu 100% flatschenfrei. es waren auf der box ein kleiner fsk-kleber der sich aber ohne probleme ablösen lies. ansonsten ist die box völlig unverschandelt!!

zur bildquali... also ich bin nicht der profi und möchte dann nicht morgen, wenn euch der dvd-schweizer sicherlich ein üppiges review liefert, an meinen aussagen aufgehängt werden.

aber soweit ich beurteilen kann, sind die blurays in der gleich fantastischen qualität wie die bereits erschienenen. ich hab rasch in "The Spy who loved me", "On her Majestyk Secret Service", Diamonds are Forever und "You only live twice" reingeschaut und war platt, wie toll so alte filme aussehen können. ich schaue übrigens mit einem sanyo-Full-HD-beamer auf 2,5 m diagonalen. auch soundmässig tönt das für so alte streifen doch echt nach sound und nicht nach irgendwelchem geschepper.

und hier noch ein paar bilder...

http://www.abload.de...g_2408r2jo6.jpg

[Joe Bond]

I know there has been rumors that the version of CR in this set will be the uncut version. Well I had originally bought the movie off iTunes before I got the Blu-ray a while back and re-downloaded the newest version off iTunes just to check to see if the cut had changed. Sure enough the fight sequence in the pre-title sequence now is what I believe is the uncut version. The shot of Fishers feet struggling has been removed and replaced with more of his face being strangled in the wash basin. The stairwell fight now shows the first henchmen hitting the ground and Obanno's head breaks the glass of the window. I find it interesting that it took three releases just to get that version over here in the States.

[thecasinoroyale]

I can't believe you had a cut version in the States at all...glad you finally get to see that bit more brutality from 'Caisno Royale'!

[scaramunga]

Sounds like sets are only going out to select reviewers. Darn. I was hoping to hear about OHMSS, Diamonds and the other 7 that have not been issued on blu ray yet.

Oh well. Only a week to go!

Bummer about Amazon pulling the Bond Posters book due to the errors. I was looking forward to the book!

[Joe Bond]

Sounds like sets are only going out to select reviewers. Darn. I was hoping to hear about OHMSS, Diamonds and the other 7 that have not been issued on blu ray yet.

Oh well. Only a week to go!

Bummer about Amazon pulling the Bond Posters book due to the errors. I was looking forward to the book!

I wouldn't worry about the transfers of the 9 that haven't been released. Since these transfers have been available for a couple years from various means like iTunes downloads and HD broadcasts. I'm very confident that they'll be up to snuff with the previous Bond Blu-ray's. IMO these are going to look good. I'm more concerned over the Hitchcock boxset but not the Bond 50.

[oatesy]

There was quite a lot wrong with the remaining 9 films on the UE discs and the iTunes downloads. YOLT and OHMSS had the wrong color timing, TSWLM had some horrendous edge enhancement (also present on the digital cinema print of that film shown in 2008). OP, TLD and GE had missing captions. AVTAK and GE had pretty bad cropping of the image. The GE title sequence was the TV version not the cinema release. In addition a lot of the panavision title sequences were unnecessarily squeezed and OHMSS had a poor sound mix (for those of outside of the US who didn't get the original mono track)

Some of the films already on bluray (TB, MR, TWINE) also had problems, which hopefully have been fixed. Although because of the seemingly lazy approach to the extras on the discs I'm not convinced MGM/FOX will have bothered to address the problems.

[scaramunga]

There was quite a lot wrong with the remaining 9 films on the UE discs and the iTunes downloads. YOLT and OHMSS had the wrong color timing, TSWLM had some horrendous edge enhancement (also present on the digital cinema print of that film shown in 2008). OP, TLD and GE had missing captions. AVTAK and GE had pretty bad cropping of the image. The GE title sequence was the TV version not the cinema release. In addition a lot of the panavision title sequences were unnecessarily squeezed and OHMSS had a poor sound mix (for those of outside of the US who didn't get the original mono track)

Some of the films already on bluray (TB, MR, TWINE) also had problems, which hopefully have been fixed. Although because of the seemingly lazy approach to the extras on the discs I'm not convinced MGM/FOX will have bothered to address the problems.

You might be right.

I did think many of the UE DVD transfer issues were corrected for blu ray.

I have the same hopes for the Bond 50 set.

We'll see next week.

I know some of the UE DVD's had somewhat muted colors, but when they were released on blu ray there was a lot more to them as blu ray and HD can replicate more colors then DVD. I think you can see this on some of the screen cap comparisons. DVD Beaver is a good website for DVD and blu ray screen cap comparisons.