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[sharpshooter]

I still think they're specs of an old spy satellite.

At this stage I agree. I mean, what would two meteorites have to do with anything? They have traces of alien life embedded on them?

[Royal Dalton]

I think there's sort of a multi-screen thing going on here.

I'm certain that's a satellite in the bottom left corner of the image on the centre left. So, that's showing something happening in outer space. Most likely another satellite being taken out.

The spirally things are possibly infrared images of its trail as it's falling to earth (I think the two images at the bottom are actually the same, but flipped).

The rest look like the blueprints for it.

[Captain Tightpants]

I still think they're specs of an old spy satellite.

At this stage I agree. I mean, what would two meteorites have to do with anything?

An ablation cascade - a theoretical disaster that would occur when two satellites collide. They break up into clouds of debris, and each piece of debris keeps moving at speed. They take out other satellites, creating a larger cloud of debris, which takes out more satellites, making even more debris, and so on and so forth until you get a cloud of debris that increases exponentially. It's happened before when Iridium 33 and Kosmos-2251 collided over Siberia in 2009, but they never ablated.

A meterorite hitting a satellite would work just as well as a satellite hitting a satellite. Though I don't like the idea, because it's too much of a random event for a Bond film.

[univex]

Anyway, I'm iffy on the idea of an extraplanetary body playing an important role in the plot. It reminds me of the original idea for A VIEW TO A KILL, which had Max Zorin re-directing Halley's Comet to hit Silicon Valley. This was possibly the worst idea ever.

It was. Glad they dropped it. And I sure hope they haven´t resuscitate it. Nah, I´m more inclined towards the satellite idea. But I still say it could just be some light tricks going on and that someone at EON is laughing at our eagerness to see something. Shows us how desperate we are for some Bond fix to discuss.

An ablation cascade - a theoretical disaster that would occur when two satellites collide. They break up into clouds of debris, and each piece of debris keeps moving at speed. They take out other satellites, creating a larger cloud of debris, which takes out more satellites, making even more debris, and so on and so forth until you get a cloud of debris that increases exponentially. It's happened before when Iridium 33 and Kosmos-2251 collided over Siberia in 2009, but they never ablated.

Now that would be an interesting idea to develop. Even if not in a Bond film

[Captain Tightpants]

If these are the schemtics of an old Cold War-era satellite that we're looking at, then perhaps the "meteorite" is actually some kind of anomaly in the satellite's orbit that meant it went off-course and could not be retrieved.

Now that would be an interesting idea to develop. Even if not in a Bond film

The obvious way forward would be to have the villains stage an ablation cascade by either shooting a satellite, or commandeering a deunct one and steering it into the path of another satellite, with the intention of causing an ablation cascade. The net effect would be a complete black-out in coverage over a given area - because of the debris floating around, it would be impossible to get another satellite into positions without risking its destruction. All it would take it a piece of debris the size of a grain of sand moving at hypervelocity to cause cataclysmic damage to another satellite.

[univex]

Station Zebra all over again, which could corroborate that fella that said Skyfall would involve a downed satellite. I still think it´s a nice plot starter for something else. A race to the info. A multiple agencies race or something like that.

[Captain Tightpants]

I don't think it will be a race. We haven't really got any information on characters who could be a part of another agency, and if that was indeed the plot, then surely Felix Leiter would be included.

No, I think that if this is a satellite that has gone down, Bond will be the one sent to retrieve it. But because there is something incriminating on it, Javier Bardem attacks MI6 either to get it back or to destroy it entirely.

[univex]

I think that if this is a satellite that has gone down, Bond will be the one sent to retrieve it. But because there is something incriminating on it, Javier Bardem attacks MI6 either to get it back or to destroy it entirely.

Can be. And if it is, it´s still a zillion times better than meteorites

[Captain Tightpants]

Actually, it probably isn't. This is scene 97F. We know the funeral scene is scene 35, and we believe the funeral is for the victims of the attack on London/MI6. So my new theory is this: Javier Bardem has access to a defunct Soviet or Russian satellite - possibly through intelligence gathered by Bond in Shanghai. MI6 is trying to get a fix on his location, so they bring up the schematics of another model of satellite (because they don't have the exact model on file) and are trying to find a way to intercept his transmissions to triangulate his location.

[Pussfeller]

But a mere satellite seems old-hat after GoldenEye. Maybe it's something bigger and more important in human terms, like a space station. Maybe those flag-draped coffins contain the remains of eight British astronauts who were working as guests on a new Chinese space station.

[marktmurphy]

I think that's something that needs correcting:

It's pretty much all but extinct, sadly. However, it's something that was always unique to Bond, what he represents - the longing for an "Older England" where the grass was always greener, and before the horrors of the modern world took their grip. You can find it in everything from Chaucer, to Shakespeare to Fleming.

The world has always had horrors: I don't like the idea of Bond as some sort of fantasist dreaming of a past that never was.

I say bring it back. At least for the 50th anniversary.

MI6 should have sexy new stuff.

They can. But keep the oak panels, desks, books and so on. Otherwise it becomes as alienating as the villain's lair.

You see modernist architecture as alienating?

[univex]

I suppose he meant that there would be no contrast between Mi6 and the villain´s lair, thus producing some alienation. And I agree. I´d love to see the oak panels and the navy themed decoration back. And the charatan pipe. And the double door. And...so on and so on.

Edited by univex, 20 January 2012 - 11:53 PM.

[The Shark]

The world has always had horrors: I don't like the idea of Bond as some sort of fantasist dreaming of a past that never was.

Then you don't like Bond being human, or liable to nostalgia and sentimentality as Fleming's Bond was. We all dream of some kind of Garden of Eden state that never was, whether it's childhood (i..e. the first chapter of Fleming's OHMSS) or society. Man vs. technology (and by way of it - the 20th century's industrialisation of death) has always been a running theme of the franchise.

You see modernist architecture as alienating?

Not all of it, but I thought Denis Gassner's design for the MI6 interior was pretty stark and clinical.

[PPK_19]

The world has always had horrors: I don't like the idea of Bond as some sort of fantasist dreaming of a past that never was.

Then you don't like Bond being human, or liable to nostalgia and sentimentality as Fleming's Bond was. We all dream of some kind of Garden of Eden state that never was, whether it's childhood (i..e. the first chapter of Fleming's OHMSS) or society. Man vs. technology (and by way of it - the 20th century's industrialisation of death) has always been a running theme of the franchise.

You see modernist architecture as alienating?

Not all of it, but I thought Denis Gassner's design for the MI6 interior was pretty stark and clinical.

Almost TOO clinical. It could have been any building in the world.

At least the set design for M16 interior in previous Bond films had a bit of character.
Gassner's design for Mi6 interior in QOS left me cold. It looked like a sterile environment used for cutting up chickens or something.

[Tuxedo]

I hope we get a new teaser clapperboard soon.

[killkenny kid]

Oh do go on, these clapperboards are driving me nuts.......btw I'm joking.

[DamnCoffee]

Just been speaking to a dear friend of mine. He said he might be mistaken but in the newspaper last week he saw an image of Daniel Craig walking along a foggy beach in swimming trunks. He's not following the Skyfall filming so this was just a bit too coincidental to not post.

[Pussfeller]

Is he sure that it wasn't an old photo? Perhaps it was supposed to be a smoggy Chinese beach.

[PPK_19]

Just been speaking to a dear friend of mine. He said he might be mistaken but in the newspaper last week he saw an image of Daniel Craig walking along a foggy beach in swimming trunks. He's not following the Skyfall filming so this was just a bit too coincidental to not post.

A beach in Bognor? Interesting titbit there Harkers

[DamnCoffee]

Indeed. He said he wasn't sure because he's not really a big Bond fan or anything. Just a bit strange since this hasn't turned up online. Just thought I'd post.

[MattofSteel]

I hope we get a new teaser clapperboard soon.

They're released on Thursdays (at least, in 2012 they have been).

[univex]

Bond in a beach with his swimming trunks. So the" prep for the mission" in the pool could be still good speculation.

[Pussfeller]

The idea of Bond getting back into shape, swimming, running on a beach, etc, puts me in mind of Bond's preparations in one of the novels, I think it's Live And Let Die, where Quarrel functions as a sort of personal trainer. Could there be a similar character in Skyfall - a trainer who gets Bond into condition and acquaints him with the locale where his mission is to take place? Perhaps a Turkish or Chinese local?

[univex]

The idea of Bond getting back into shape, swimming, running on a beach, etc, puts me in mind of Bond's preparations in one of the novels, I think it's Live And Let Die, where Quarrel functions as a sort of personal trainer. Could there be a similar character in Skyfall - a trainer who gets Bond into condition and acquaints him with the locale where his mission is to take place? Perhaps a Turkish or Chinese local?

Yes, that´s actually what I´ve said in another thread a couple of days ago;) It´d be wonderfull to see that kind of preparation we saw in the novels. It has always been one of my favourite parts. Also, didn´t Bond do something similar in YOLT - the novel?

[Pussfeller]

It's a common theme in Fleming's novels. I think it was in Thunderball where Bond went on a strict diet and exercise regimen, and began to feel incredibly healthy and vital, but soon inexplicably reverted to his hard-drinking, chain-smoking ways. It's the subject of one of the essays in James Bond and Philosophy. It would be cool to see a film finally incorporate this aspect of Fleming's stories.

[The Shark]

The idea of Bond getting back into shape, swimming, running on a beach, etc, puts me in mind of Bond's preparations in one of the novels, I think it's Live And Let Die, where Quarrel functions as a sort of personal trainer. Could there be a similar character in Skyfall - a trainer who gets Bond into condition and acquaints him with the locale where his mission is to take place? Perhaps a Turkish or Chinese local?

[univex]

It's a common theme in Fleming's novels. I think it was in Thunderball where Bond went on a strict diet and exercise regimen, and began to feel incredibly healthy and vital, but soon inexplicably reverted to his hard-drinking, chain-smoking ways. It's the subject of one of the essays in James Bond and Philosophy. It would be cool to see a film finally incorporate this aspect of Fleming's stories.

My feelings exactly Pussfeller.

The idea of Bond getting back into shape, swimming, running on a beach, etc, puts me in mind of Bond's preparations in one of the novels, I think it's Live And Let Die, where Quarrel functions as a sort of personal trainer. Could there be a similar character in Skyfall - a trainer who gets Bond into condition and acquaints him with the locale where his mission is to take place? Perhaps a Turkish or Chinese local?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qVUn4797g

Sly´s Rocky Rules! Although that hug in the beach near the end tops Top Gun´s voleiball game as the gayest scene performed by two straight characters ever

[Luigi Ferrari]

Just been speaking to a dear friend of mine. He said he might be mistaken but in the newspaper last week he saw an image of Daniel Craig walking along a foggy beach in swimming trunks. He's not following the Skyfall filming so this was just a bit too coincidental to not post.

specialdelia special delia
They were filming the new James Bond film in Bognor Regis today. Daniel Craig was seen in his trunks. HOW EXCITING.
18 Gen

specialdelia special delia
@Dill74 And it was SO foggy round here too, can't imagine they got much footage.
18 Gen

Pure coincidence? MMhhh....

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 25 January 2012 - 11:26 AM.

[Shrublands]

Just been speaking to a dear friend of mine. He said he might be mistaken but in the newspaper last week he saw an image of Daniel Craig walking along a foggy beach in swimming trunks. He's not following the Skyfall filming so this was just a bit too coincidental to not post.

specialdelia special delia
They were filming the new James Bond film in Bognor Regis today. Daniel Craig was seen in his trunks. HOW EXCITING.
18 Gen

specialdelia special delia
@Dill74 And it was SO foggy round here too, can't imagine they got much footage.
18 Gen

Pure coincidence? MMhhh....

Rubbish and more rubbish.


If they’d filmed on the beach in Bognor (or intended to do so), the local authority would know about it – it’s called filming permission. They don’t know anything about it and have not even been contacted.

[Captain Tightpants]

Unless it's on private property, in which case they negotiate directly with the owners and not the council. But I still call BS for now.

Anyway, I'm religiously checking the 007 Facebook page for the next clapperboard photo, seeing as how it's Friday. Of course, it's 2:20am local time in England, so I'm probably a little early.