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[Germanlady]

Wouldn't it look ridiculous, too? I think so...

[PPK_19]

I like his shoes though, very swish.

[JCRendle]

Have any photos surfaced of the Floating Dragon casino? Other than the clapper board I mean...

[glidrose]

What have i missed from the past 2 days Bond fans? I've been on somewhat of a drinking bender (to be continued tonight) and was wondering if there have been any new pics or info?

Yep. Skyfall got released ahead of time. Nobody liked it so the producers burned all the prints. And the world ended. I'm here all week.

[Dustin]

What have i missed from the past 2 days Bond fans? I've been on somewhat of a drinking bender (to be continued tonight) and was wondering if there have been any new pics or info?

Yep. Skyfall got released ahead of time. Nobody liked it so the producers burned all the prints. And the world ended. I'm here all week.

That would at least justify another bender...

[Shrublands]

What have i missed from the past 2 days Bond fans? I've been on somewhat of a drinking bender (to be continued tonight) and was wondering if there have been any new pics or info?

Only the teaser trailer, the poster, several tracks from the score, the title song, the first official clip from the film itself and the whole screenplay, but other than that... nothing really.

[Mr_Wint]

How nice to see that Bond is, most of the time, properly dressed! They pushed the casual clothing too far with CR/QOS so it was time for a change of pace.

But I don’t understand why they give him an ear piece so often. I have always thought that 007 had a Licence to Kill because he was often on his own and forced to make his own decisions! I would not be surprised if he is on a direct link with Dench-M because that seems to be the direction they are going in with this film...

[PPK_19]

What have i missed from the past 2 days Bond fans? I've been on somewhat of a drinking bender (to be continued tonight) and was wondering if there have been any new pics or info?

Only the teaser trailer, the poster, several tracks from the score, the title song, the first official clip from the film itself and the whole screenplay, but other than that... nothing really.

Oh so i didn't miss much then...

[The Shark]

I would not be surprised if he is on a direct link with Dench-M because that seems to be the direction they are going in with this film...

Think it's a line with Eve, so he can keep in contact while they part.

[thecasinoroyale]

Sort of like the old "stop touching your ear" job from 'Casino Royale', but more obvious this time.

[PPK_19]

Sort of like the old "stop touching your ear" job from 'Casino Royale', but more obvious this time.

I reckon we'll hear a good bit of banter between Bond and Eve, since their relationship is already meant to be established by Skyfall, right? Or am i wrong?

[marktmurphy]

Maybe he's just gone deaf from firing all of those loud gun and wears a hearing aid now. He's making them cool, see?

[Vauxhall]

Maybe he's just gone deaf from firing all of those loud gun and wears a hearing aid now. He's making them cool, see?

More of that pesky product placement, eh?

[thecasinoroyale]

I hope so PPK, I said earlier in a thread that hearing an established relationship, between Bond and an ally is so good to hear, makes us feel really in with the characters, like Felix and even Mathis at a shot.

[JCRendle]

Have any photos surfaced of the Floating Dragon casino? Other than the clapper board I mean...

Guess not shame, looking forward to seeing more of this set.

[Robinson]

But the films never picked that theme up and developed it until that random woman taking the slug in QOS. She's the first we really see suffer, albeit only very briefly.

I remember some people posting on these boards how they disliked seeing the woman getting shot or even showing her again, writhing in pain.

Come to think of it, how many innocents were shot when Greene's henchmen were shooting at Bond during Tosca?

I think for this series, it's necessary to show civilians being affected by the actions of Bond and his adversaries. Ultimately, they are the "World" that Bond is supposed to protect and save.

[Pussfeller]

It's funny how accidental collateral damage (like the woman in QOS) makes a stronger impression on the viewer than deliberate murder of civilians, like the machine-gunning of the programmers in GoldenEye. I suppose the fact that the injury was random and unintentional makes it seem more pointless and pathetic.

[SecretAgentFan]

And doesn´t anybody think about the tiger that was scared off by Sir Roger? Or the snake?

[Shrublands]

It's funny how accidental collateral damage (like the woman in QOS) makes a stronger impression on the viewer than deliberate murder of civilians, like the machine-gunning of the programmers in GoldenEye. I suppose the fact that the injury was random and unintentional makes it seem more pointless and pathetic.

I remember as a child, being quite disturbed by the fact that SPECTRE had murdered an innocent tourist for inadvertently taking a photo of the he cargo ship Ning-Po in YOLT.

I think this sort of thing comes from the utter randomness, total innocence. After all, the programmers in GE are working on a space based weapons program. They are involved in the exotic, dangerous world of Bond and are controlling a massive space weapon.

Tourist, bystanders, commuters are you and I in the film, just people going about their business, total innocents who just happen to be there. For example, I think there will be a big sock for the audience if there are any passengers on that Tub train. Personally, I think there should be, it will up-the-stakes and emphasize the villains as dangerous, hateful psychos. I’m very interested to see how some of this will play out and yes it’s quite a departure for a Bond film.

[thecasinoroyale]

I remember those pics way back when, I think it was of 2 chaps with horrific wounds to their face. An example of what glimpses of the carnage we may see, and making us really feel that "we" as citizens/members of the public are involved in the threat Silva presents and not just expendables in the same scene.

As long as it's controlled in a well shot way, which I know Mendes can do, it shouldn't be as morbid as we think. Or I could be wrong, either way it's one of those changing times in films. General publics are used more as collateral damage to heighten the threat and give the film more himanity / gravitas.

But we have to remember it IS James Bond so we come to expect that if we good guys get in the way of the villains, it's not going to be easy to get out from!

[marktmurphy]

It's funny how accidental collateral damage (like the woman in QOS) makes a stronger impression on the viewer than deliberate murder of civilians, like the machine-gunning of the programmers in GoldenEye. I suppose the fact that the injury was random and unintentional makes it seem more pointless and pathetic.

Yeah, I think there is a difference.

[Dustin]

But the films never picked that theme up and developed it until that random woman taking the slug in QOS. She's the first we really see suffer, albeit only very briefly.

I remember some people posting on these boards how they disliked seeing the woman getting shot or even showing her again, writhing in pain.

Come to think of it, how many innocents were shot when Greene's henchmen were shooting at Bond during Tosca?

I think for this series, it's necessary to show civilians being affected by the actions of Bond and his adversaries. Ultimately, they are the "World" that Bond is supposed to protect and save.

Seems I have already forgotten about a number of innocent bystanders over the course of the series. Sure, it's always implied there are innocent victims at stake, it's a defining trait of the genre. But I think it's rare we see it happen when Bond/the hero is around. It comes dangerously close to situations where the ricochet comes from the hero's gun or he's be responsible for the disaster in some other way. That's probably why some people aren't comfortable with such images, the fantasy world becomes a less attractive place.

[Robinson]

With CR we subtly saw a more "grounded/realistic" setting for the franchise. People talk about M referencing 9/11 when briefing Bond about LeChiffre. I say it was right after the title sequence when you see those child soldiers in Uganda. Hell, what about Molaka shooting those workers at the construction site?

I think the days of the hollowed out volcano and the ultimate space based super weapon are over for this franchise. I don't think it's a bad thing as long as future films balance realism with the appealing and timeless elements of the franchise.

[Jeff007]

I think the days of the hollowed out volcano and the ultimate space based super weapon are over for this franchise. I don't think it's a bad thing as long as future films balance realism with the appealing and timeless elements of the franchise.

Don't bet on it. The history of the Bond franchise shows an arc after every few movies. Wilson and Broccoli know what they are doing as Cubby taught them well. Just when you make a hollowed out volcano movie you change it up and make OHMSS. Than you send Bond to outer space and than counter with FYEO. DAD was another one that pushed the boundaries and than they came back to earth with CR. So perhaps with Craig we will always see some realism but rest assured that the future of James Bond movies will still one day have subs eating subs or hollowed out volcanos.

[SecretAgentFan]

I like hollowed out volcanos...

[thecasinoroyale]

I say it was right after the title sequence when you see those child soldiers in Uganda. Hell, what about Molaka shooting those workers at the construction site?

That shot (pardon the pun) always shocks me, just pure brutal shows the line between good and bad guys. Well, even that guy with the welder who Mollaka kicks off the rafters, causing the explosion!

Grim times opening 'Casino Royale'!

[Royal Dalton]

I say it was right after the title sequence when you see those child soldiers in Uganda. Hell, what about Molaka shooting those workers at the construction site?

That shot (pardon the pun) always shocks me, just pure brutal shows the line between good and bad guys. Well, even that guy with the welder who Mollaka kicks off the rafters, causing the explosion!

Grim times opening 'Casino Royale'!

What about Bond driving over cars in a tank and mowing down innocent Russian soldiers with a machine gun in GoldenEye?

[Dustin]

I feel it's perhaps more to do with what resonates with the audience than anything else. If the producers find a strong enough motif that reverberates with people's idea of Bond they just use it. The times are what dictates the direction of the films. And currently the hollow volcano is more a MARVEL thing than stuff for Eon's Bond. I suppose that could change but I'm far from sure it will do so.

[marktmurphy]

What about Bond driving over cars in a tank and mowing down innocent Russian soldiers with a machine gun in GoldenEye?

Well he doesn't hurt anyone in the tank (they seem to feel a need to show people struggling out of the flattened cars!) but you're quite right about the soldiers- I remember only realising that a while after seeing the film and realising how dodgy it is! The soldiers at the beginning are okay because they're, y'know- bad; but the ones in St Petersburg don't deserve to die!
Someone mentioned Casino Royale's opening; and it's notable that in the Naboo Embassy Bond takes great pains not to wound any of the soldiers there mortally.

[Shrublands]

I suppose it’s a gut reaction thing – we’ve seen lots of soldiers being shot in the movies (innocent and otherwise) hence we are somewhat acclimatised to seeing such events. Tourists, children and construction workers, less so.