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[univex]

Well, it´s about time we Azoreans had a proper villain I´ve been advocating for years that we have some sort of role in the franchise, being it as a location or as a birthplace of someone in the film.

[smudge76]

" . . . we were pushing . . . the personal history of the character."


Maybe they will explain Bond's coat of arms. His family could have been Knights of King and country.

" . . . we were pushing . . . the personal history of the character."


Maybe they will explain Bond's coat of arms. His family could have been Knights of King and country.

If the family have a coat of arms dating back to middle ages the fact is they would been of noble stock and knights most probably. To get an official coat of arms today you need to go through official channels. The Kate Middleton family had to have permission given by royal house to get the coat of arms fast tracked for royal wedding as her family never had one.

[S K Y F A L L]

It's certainly interesting, Bond could possibly be from a family who have for generations, sworn to protect the crown. His family could have created MI6.

And just for fun, they could make Bond the true hair to the throne. "For England, James?"..... "No. For Me." -GE-

[AMC Hornet]

And just for fun, they could make Bond the true hair to the throne.

"Just how p-p-p-personal is a toupee?"
"It can only be regarded as a...hairloom."

Keep in mind, the fact that Sir Thomas Bond "held the manor of Wickhambreux by a knight´s fee from the Earl of Thanet" didn't necessarily mean that Andrew or his son James were related to him.

"The world is not enough."
"Foolish Sentiment."
"Family motto."

Again, keep in mind that in the novel, the link to Sir Thomas Bond had not been established, but James promised to adopt the motto as his own. A leap seems to have been made on the part of P&W to make 007 a direct heir.

Perhaps Bond will take over as M, as Sir James did in 1967...

[S K Y F A L L]

And just for fun, they could make Bond the true hair to the throne.

Keep in mind, the fact that Sir Thomas Bond "held the manor of Wickhambreux by a knight´s fee from the Earl of Thanet" didn't necessarily mean that Andrew or his son James were related to him.

I'm only half way though the Ian Fleming series but I assume you are referring to OHMSS of course. I appreciate being educated on the subject.

Again, keep in mind that in the novel, the link to Sir Thomas Bond had not been established, but James promised to adopt the motto as his own. A leap seems to have been made on the part of P&W to make 007 a direct heir.

What leap did P&W take to make Bond a direct heir? I thought they just used the family motto adopted by Bond as a title for the film and the one scene?

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 27 April 2012 - 06:54 AM.

[JCRendle]

Or more correctly, Orbis Non
Sufficit.

[S K Y F A L L]

Or more correctly, Orbis Non
Sufficit.

Yes, that is the Latin translation of the motto.

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 27 April 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[007jamesbond]

I think the Skyfall plot will be a cloak and dagger.......something hidden from us and reveal to us at the end! unexpected? anyone thinking the same?

[Shrublands]

Or more correctly, Orbis Non
Sufficit.

Yes, that is the Latin translation of the motto.

Actually, it’s the other way round, “The world is not enough,” Is the translation.

[S K Y F A L L]

I stand corrected Shrublands and JCRendle.

I think the Skyfall plot will be a cloak and dagger.......something hidden from us and reveal to us at the end! unexpected? anyone thinking the same?

Doctor Claw?

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 28 April 2012 - 07:10 AM.

[Vauxhall]

I was interested to read Ola Rapace confirming that Patrice and Silva have scenes together. I can't figure out exactly where, but it makes sense to run a strand through the movie; it wouldn't be ideal if they operated completely independently of each other. Having said that, I think Rapace must have one of the most substantial henchmen roles of the series by featuring in more than one major sequence - Turkey and Shanghai.

[Royal Dalton]

Yeah, we don't really know anything about how Silva, Severine and Patrice relate to each other, do we?

[Vauxhall]

Yeah, we don't really know anything about how Silva, Severine and Patrice relate to each other, do we?

Impressively little, really. The bits we do believe we know are partly calculated guesswork anyway!

Severine passes a briefcase to Patrice, and he is later seen lining up a sniper's rifle at a room that she's in. Bond and Severine appear to be taken by boat to Silva's mysterious base on Hashima. Apart from that, very little...

[S K Y F A L L]

We've known since the start that, M's past comes back to haunt her and that SF has some emotional context.
We've learned the film will be called Operation SF and Bond uses it in the word assoication game in the trailer reports.
The sign on the gate of what we call SF manor, that says SF and one of the graves references the area which seems to be known as SF.
SO are the big 3 questions about the plot the following;
What comes back to haunt M from the past?
What is SF and how does it connect with Bond?
and how does M's past connect with Bond's connection with SF?

Am I understanding this right?

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 03 May 2012 - 01:08 AM.

[Harmsway]

What comes back to haunt M from the past?
What is SF and how does it connect with Bond?
and how does M's past connect with Bond's connection with SF?

Am I understanding this right?

Those are the major questions.

The most obvious theory, which resolves most of what we know about the film pretty neatly, is that M was somehow responsible for an operation in the past--codename Skyfall--and that it resulted in the deaths of Bond's parents, as well as some tragedy for Silva. Maybe the connection is something else, but that sure does make quite a bit of sense of everything we've heard about SKYFALL, from Morgan's comments about a "shocking" hook for this Bond film to the extreme level of secrecy surrounding the production.

[JCRendle]

That'd mean changing the "climbing accident" backstory from Fleming, also used in the CR dossier on the website. While they may feel the need to cover up their involvement in their deaths, that cover story does seem alittle too elaborate if untrue.

[Harmsway]

Why would it be a cover story? I'm sure the "climbing accident" could be incorporated to the "real" story.

[JCH]

That'd mean changing the "climbing accident" backstory from Fleming, also used in the CR dossier on the website. While they may feel the need to cover up their involvement in their deaths, that cover story does seem alittle too elaborate if untrue.

I don't know I always thought "climbing accident" sounded too much like an official company line tocover up something. It's just elaborate enough to sound plausible and to close all loopholes without creating a ton of other questions, but just vague enough to leave wiggle room.

[thecasinoroyale]

It would give more meaning to the title 'Skyfall' I guess if the climbing accident is used? Thank you, I'm here all week!



Sorry! Anyway, I do like the idea of this linking back to Bond's parents...I just hope it's dealt with in a very convincing way, and not too "hammy", if that's the word?

[Harmsway]

It would give more meaning to the title 'Skyfall' I guess if the climbing accident is used? Thank you, I'm here all week!

Understanding SKYFALL as referring to the death of Bond's parents, was an early suggestion by some fans when the title was first announced, actually. And I do suspect that's one of the layers of meaning here.

[roger no more]

Worry to see, at the end M tells Bond : Bond I am your grandmother...

[JCRendle]

Eh? Where is that from? M is only 33 years older than Bond (Going by actors ages) it would be worrying if she was his grandmother.

[roger no more]

Eh? Where is that from? M is only 33 years older than Bond (Going by actors ages) it would be worrying if she was his grandmother.

Oh sorry, that maybe: I am your mother....like Star Wars...

[Dustin]

It would give more meaning to the title 'Skyfall' I guess if the climbing accident is used? Thank you, I'm here all week!

Understanding SKYFALL as referring to the death of Bond's parents, was an early suggestion by some fans when the title was first announced, actually. And I do suspect that's one of the layers of meaning here.

Have to admit that never occurred to me.

[thecasinoroyale]

Ohh..well that showed me! I mean it is possible, a credable use of the name for an operation, to do with the sky maybe? Climbing? Or are we clutching at straws?

I mean, Operation Thunderball had no link to finding atomic bombs...or maybe it did, Thunder...from the skies, like dropping a loud bomb/ball...?


Hmm, interesting notion...!

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

It was always my understanding that the unofficial definition of 'Thunderball' had something to do with a military term relating to the visual look of the mushroom cloud following the detonation of a nuclear/atomic bomb which was quite apt for the plot of the film.

[d21089]

I can't say I'm overly excited about some overt link between Bond's parents and the villains scheme- but I am glad Sam Mendes is doing this film as I feel like he can make it work on screen where as previous directors may not have been able to

[Vauxhall]

Another actor confirming his involvement in SKYFALL - Peter Basham.
Probably another henchman, MI6 agent, guard, officer, etc.

http://www.bloomfiel...rcial&Itemid=65

[S K Y F A L L]

Lately I"ve been wondering if Silva and Hiroshima have a connection and if it is connected to M's past and if it is also connection to Bonds involvement. Could all these things be intertwined?

[Vauxhall]

Lately I"ve been wondering if Silva and Hiroshima have a connection and if it is connected to M's past and if it is also connection to Bonds involvement. Could all these things be intertwined?

Why Hiroshima? The 1945 attack would be before M's time anyway, I imagine.

If you mean Hashima, that might only be the inspiration for Silva's island rather than the actual location on screen. I guess they'll keep it pretty vague in reality.