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[Jim]

I don't particularly like it. Perhaps it grows on me, really don't know. That said I'm still not sold it's the real thing, regardless of the evidence.

Categorise that as MistrustFall?

(OK, that dun't really work).

[Jim]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Probably not. Bond film named after an inanimate object would be novel, though.

Slightly melodramatic name for a house, innit? Always think naming houses is a bit gauche but IF (a big if) there's any possibility of this, I suppose it's a "fun" way to acknowledge Goldeneye (the inanimate object) if not GoldenEye (the inanimate Pierce Brosnan).

I mean, what next? Thunderclap Cottage? Bullet Lodge? The Killings?

[MattofSteel]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Probably not. Bond film named after an inanimate object would be novel, though.

Slightly melodramatic name for a house, innit? Always think naming houses is a bit gauche but IF (a big if) there's any possibility of this, I suppose it's a "fun" way to acknowledge Goldeneye (the inanimate object) if not GoldenEye (the inanimate Pierce Brosnan).

I mean, what next? Thunderclap Cottage? Bullet Lodge? The Killings?

Thunderclap sounds like a viciously potent sexually transmitted infection. Perfect then, I suppose, for a film about James Bond.

[Dustin]

I don't particularly like it. Perhaps it grows on me, really don't know. That said I'm still not sold it's the real thing, regardless of the evidence.

Categorise that as MistrustFall?

(OK, that dun't really work).

But that's it, exactly. And it's more fitting than UntruthFall.

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Not exactly my idea of Bond. He comes from money, but not from old money. Big difference there. The custom to dub houses would indeed befit the not-quite-yet-top-upper-class that's often more snobbish than the real thing, to make up for the time their ancestors lost before coming into money. But I don't think "Skyfall" is really what that clientele is looking for when inviting their set to a weekend of grouse shooting.

Edited by Dustin, 07 October 2011 - 04:20 PM.

[Shrublands]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

I’m not a naysayer, but I would become one if that turned out to be the case.

[Loomis]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Oh, no. Please, no. Bond doesn't need a damn ancestral home. He's not the Prince of sodding Wales. Can't we please - for once - have a good old-fashioned unpretentiously entertaining James Bond film like, say, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN? No origin story elements, no unnecessary (and unFlemingian) background details, no personal missions, no peeling back the layers.... Please.

[Jim]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Oh, no. Please, no. Bond doesn't need a damn ancestral home. He's not the Prince of sodding Wales. Can't we please - for once - have a good old-fashioned unpretentiously entertaining James Bond film like, say, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN? No origin story elements, no unnecessary (and unFlemingian) background details, no personal missions, no peeling back the layers.... Please.

One suspects you're likely to be a bit disappointed there.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, if it is SKYFALL...

I like it because it sounds as if there is a lot at stake, like a "world could end"-scenario.

I´m still ambivalent because it also sounds a bit like a computer game or too generic.

[Shaun Forever]

So is Bond 23 Skyfall?

What makes you think he knows? Zorin could be a caterer of some kind - that way, he'd know enough to know that cameras could be rolling, but not enough to know the title ...

"Zorin's Meals On Wheels". Take your own cutlery and help yourself to dessert.

And Mayday will provide you with a drink.

[univex]

Might the naysayers be persuaded otherwise if the title SKYFALL was the name of Bond's ancestral home?

Yes. Give an interesting meaning to it and I´m sold. Just like with QOS or TWINE, or... Zorin, I know you for a while now, and you´ve always seemed like a realistic person, with some good reviews and comments over the years, but from your comments it does seem like you have some inside knowledge. Do you? Or are you playing with the fans? Just asking. Cheers

[marktmurphy]

It's not great but, hey; it's only a title. I lived through Quantum of Solace.

[univex]

It's not great but, hey; it's only a title. I lived through Quantum of Solace.

Yes, but it had the Fleming factor , I for one loved it as a title and found it to be very pragmatic not to care for the non-fan dilema of not knowing what it meant. My first reaction to Skyfall was...meh, ok for a video game. But give it context and I can love it. So, for one, I´ll wait and see. Who knows? It may turn out to be one of the most loved title (and plot) of the series, depending of what they make of it. I remember thinking DAD was nice, but then I cringed when Pierce uttered the line in the film. Cheers Mark.

[Quantumofsolace007]

If this is the title I hope this doesn't mean the days of Fleming titles are done.

[Captain Tightpants]

If this is the title I hope this doesn't mean the days of Fleming titles are done.

Why would they be?

[univex]

If this is the title I hope this doesn't mean the days of Fleming titles are done.

Why would they be?

The man just HOPES they aren´t and is stating his opinion. He can do that, I think. Unless you´re Richard Burton and he´s John Hurt And if that´s the case, bring in the rats Seriously now, I´m hoping that POAL will be used sometime in the future, it´s a nice one, as is Shatterhand (yes, I know you don´t like that one Shadow). Cheers Cap and QOS007

[Pussfeller]

Personally, I like the idea of conserving the Fleming titles, spreading them out over many years rather than blowing through them in a single binge.

[AMC Hornet]

Save the remaining Fleming titles for introducing new actors as 007 (as EON will have to do soon if they can't get films out with less than four years in between).

Has it occurred to anyone that we and other forums might be an unwitting focus group?

[sharpshooter]

Found this fan effort on the net:

[Jim]

Blimey.

[blueman]

Well, The Spy Who Loved Me turned out all right...

[Vauxhall]

Well, if it is SKYFALL...

I like it because it sounds as if there is a lot at stake, like a "world could end"-scenario.

I'm slightly torn about what would be worse as the name behind the title - an apocalyptic plot scenario, or the villain being called Barry Skyfall.

[Skudor]

Found this fan effort on the net:

I guess there had to be a way of getting the logo in there.

[Harmsway]

Oh, no. Please, no. Bond doesn't need a damn ancestral home. He's not the Prince of sodding Wales. Can't we please - for once - have a good old-fashioned unpretentiously entertaining James Bond film like, say, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN? No origin story elements, no unnecessary (and unFlemingian) background details, no personal missions, no peeling back the layers.... Please.

Dude, we've got Sam Mendes directing. No way in hell are we losing the "This time it's personal" aspect. Sadly.

[Captain Tightpants]

Oh, no. Please, no. Bond doesn't need a damn ancestral home. He's not the Prince of sodding Wales.

I'm sceptical about the comments myself. When news first broke that BOND 23 was looking at a castle or manor home in Scotland, there was speculation that it would be "Bond's ancestral home" because Fleming gave Bond a distant Scottish heritage. I can understand production informing the owners of Castle Duntrune of what they intended for the actual scene - ie explosions, gunfire, etc. - but I can't work out why they would reveal details of the plot. I suspect Mrs. Malcolm did a little bit of independent research, found those early reports and took them as gospel truth.

Likewise, I cannot think of a single reason why Bond would "bring the villains to his ancestoral home" for the final fight. Why on earth would he do that?

no peeling back the layers.... Please.

What about peeling back layers of a plot. One of the reasons why I think THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is such a good film is because while he's a weak villain, Koskov is cunning enough to fool MI6 into doing his dirty work by staging his own defection and abduction. I would not complain if the plot of BOND 23 had Bond trying to work out a plan like this.

[Messervy]

Oh God! "Skyfall" sounds terrible. I do hope it's fake news.
I know there will always be people who like names and those who don't, so I guess complaining is useless if this is eventually to be the actual name, but I'll complain anyway (just for the sake of it): it's daft and lame. Doesn't sound one bit correct. Even TND sounds better in comparison (which is saying a lot...). It's like your average video-game's name, like "Fall Out" or the whole lot. Why not call it "Skynet" and draft in the Terminator to help Bond?!
No, really, I do hope they'll come up with something more punchy. I mean, one of the specific aspects of Bond (novels & movies) is the name: original and catchy (OHMSS, YOLT, TSWLM, etc.). Granted, not all are great (DAD is lame) and not all are original (all the "die" and "gold" and "kill" afterwards); but on the whole the Bond experience lives notably through the extra-ordinary sense of original adventure that the names convey. "Skyfall" is, at best, unnoticeable.

[JLaidlaw]

I'm surprised that with all of the negativity in the thread I'm one of only 12% of people to vote the title as Dreadful. So it must be growing on people?

I doubt this is a hoax, but I am clinging on to the hope it is. The thing giving me some solace is that many fans have said they'd like to see a film called 'GlobeFall' over the years. Coupled with the existence of Gardner's ColdFall, this sort of thing suggests a lack of imagination that could only come from either an internet fan, or a multi-million dollar movie studio.

But- if Mark Monitor registers websites with deliberate spelling mistakes (ie. Quotumofsolace.com) maybe SkyFall is actually a corruption of the actual title. Maybe Bond 23 will be 'Skive All' - in which James Bond 007 is sent on her majesty's secret service to investigate benefit fraud (in what the Daily Mail describes as 'an absolute masterpiece')

Edited by JLaidlaw, 08 October 2011 - 01:28 PM.

[DominicGreene]

I'm surprised that with all of the negativity in the thread I'm one of only 12% of people to vote the title as Dreadful. So it must be growing on people?

I doubt this is a hoax, but I am clinging on to the hope it is. The thing giving me some solace is that many fans have said they'd like to see a film called 'GlobeFall' over the years. Coupled with the existence of Gardner's ColdFall, this sort of thing suggests a lack of imagination that could only come from either an internet fan, or a multi-million dollar movie studio.

But- if Mark Monitor registers websites with deliberate spelling mistakes (ie. Quotumofsolace.com) maybe SkyFall is actually a corruption of the actual title. Maybe Bond 23 will be 'Skive All' - in which James Bond 007 is sent on her majesty's secret service to investigate benefit fraud (in what the Daily Mail describes as 'an absolute masterpiece')

I don't think so. I'm sure the negativity will go away soon, I mean, I'm sure when Quantum of Solace was announced, people had problems with the title. Maybe back in the 60's, people had a problem with the name "Goldfinger". There is only so much people can complain.

[marktmurphy]

I'm still not super-keen on Quantum of Solace as a title! Especially the way they seemed to try and make it into a pun (the baddies being called Quantum) which actually made it meant less sense!

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm still in the "SkyFall really that is what thye want to title it ok" group. Told it to a friend of mind who responded "Skyfall is Keaunna Reeves playing bond all of a sudden?"

[PPK_19]

Yuck. 'Skyfall' reminds me of 'Beyond the Ice'. Can't decide which is worse.