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[tdalton]

I wouldn't say that Fincher is uneven at all. With the exception of The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, which I haven't seen so therefor can't comment on, the rest of his feature films have been remarkably good. Seven, The Game, Zodiac, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, Panic Room, and The Social Network are all very good films, IMO.

[lechero]

I am not sure about Panic Room, The Game or Alien 3. Other than those, his films are pretty good, but not great imho.

[Odd Jobbies]

I wouldn't say that Fincher is uneven at all. With the exception of The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, which I haven't seen so therefor can't comment on, the rest of his feature films have been remarkably good. Seven, The Game, Zodiac, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, Panic Room, and The Social Network are all very good films, IMO.

I felt a little deflated by The Dragon Tattoo. Great tone, ambience, performances but i thought the narrative was too convoluted, even for a mystery. The elongated epilogue felt ultimately unnecessary to me.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Fincher would still do a better job than Nolan, that's for damn sure.

[S K Y F A L L]

Nolan still wants to direct Bond film in the future:

http://blogs.indiewi...tm_medium=feed#

Here's the same story from Slashfilm.com:

he does say that he was serious about making a James Bond film, a desire he voiced back in 2010.
As cool as a Christopher Nolan Bond movie might be, it seems as unlikely as the Quentin Tarantino version of Casino Royale always was. Bond controllers EON Productions have their way of doing things, and Nolan has his way of doing things, and it seems unlikely that those two methodologies would go hand in hand.
Nolan does tell Empire that he met with producers about Bond, but that any film with his name on it “would have to be the right situation and the right time in their cycle of things.” Precisely what “the right situation” is can be open to question, but since part of Nolan’s working method is exerting total control, he might want to cast his own Bond. Given how much effort EON puts into choosing and marketing their Bond, that could be the one and only stumbling block that matters.

Personally i don't agree with the editorial on Nolan's quote. I don't see him demanding to re-cast when there's already such a great actor in the role - in fact i'd imagine Craig makes the deal that much sweeter. Fassbinder keeps getting bandied about, and he'd indeed be a great Bond, but no better than Craig - who's to say!?
And while Nolans oft collaborator Hardy (whom i think is the best actor out there right now - see Bronson and Warrior), i don't see Nolan casting him as Bond. He would make a great villain, as i'm sure he will in Dark Knight Rises.

I'd see the only hurdle being control of the final cut, but since they've already snagged Mendes, an auteur in his own right, then i'd guess Eon have become more flexible on this point. They'd need to believe in and trust the vision of the Director, but Nolan seems no more untrustworthy, or likely to screw too much with the format than Mendes would. I can understand why Eon couldn't commit to Tarrantino's voiceover driven version of CR - who knows how he'd want to subvert things in the edit, but i think these editorials have it totally wrong by using Eon's resistance to Tarrantino as a rationale to their possible restance to Nolan.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Nolan is eventually announced as Director of Bond 24. In fact i'd bet that talk among the Execs already has it down to Mendes returning and Nolan...

I agree with you. How does Nolan and Tarantino compare? And I doubt Nolan would want anymore then the other directors have got in the past, I think it would be to early to re invent the wheel and I bet Nolan just wants to have fun with the established.

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Has anyone see this article titled, "Quentin Tarantino's Casino Royale" on MI6?
http://www.mi6-hq.co...?t=&s=&id=03226

It has a break down and timeline of what happened, which was nice for someone who didn't get all the details.

ANYWAY

Martin Campbell is mentioned in it a few times;

Campbell says he is not considering a return for a third film as director, despite being offered the job.

I'm not completely sure if that is new news but its new to me.

[tdalton]

Fincher would still do a better job than Nolan, that's for damn sure.

I couldn't agree more.

[S K Y F A L L]

I think the producers are in the hot seat now, who wouldn't want to direct a Bond film and have there name put in the history book?

I wonder what the criteria is so EON........

[tdalton]

I would think that it might actually be more difficult to find a director for the films at this point. Now that they've gone out and gotten directors like Marc Forster and Sam Mendes (who appears to have really upped the ante with Skyfall), it would be hard to go back to having just anybody directing one of these films. Assuming Skyfall doesn't completely tank, then they have to find another director in Mendes' class. Sure, now all of the journeyman directors would want a crack at it, but EON can't go back in that direction, at least not for a while, now that they're hiring the likes of Forster and Mendes.

Aside from Mendes, who is already on board, what directors out there who are of the Academy Award calibre would want to take on the task of directing Bond? That will be the question that we'll see have to be answered when it comes time to get rolling on Bond 24, unless Mendes accepts his offer to return. We know Nolan would (although I wouldn't consider him to be in the same class as Mendes, but I seem to be in the minority on that judging from the reaction to the overrated Batman films), but aside from that, it would be interesting to see what directors would want to take a crack at a Bond film.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Fincher would still do a better job than Nolan, that's for damn sure.

I couldn't agree more.

Now that's a given. Fincher is an excellent director. I haven't seen a single bad film from him - even his weakest as The Game and Panic Room are very well crafted films.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 03 August 2012 - 02:09 AM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Fincher would still do a better job than Nolan, that's for damn sure.

I couldn't agree more.

Now that's a given. Fincher is an excellent director. I haven't seen a single bad film from him - even his weakest as The Game and Panic Room are very well crafted films.

Fincher is one of five favorite directors I have (Mann, Carpenter, Fincher, Soderbergh, Cronenberg) I did a project on Fincher. I love his work. I've never been dis-pleased with anything he's done.

[Messervy]

One thing would be good about Nolan, though: since he likes to work with the same actors, we would get to see Michael Caine in a Bond movie. Now, that would be splendid!
(on the other hand, we could get to see Marion Cotillard... now, that would be disastrous!)

[x007AceOfSpades]

The only person I'd prefer Nolan to bring in would be Tom Hardy. I think Hardy could make an interesting villain. But, you don't need Nolan to have him. Overall, I think Hardy would be great as the villain without Nolan.

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 03 August 2012 - 10:30 AM.

[Odd Jobbies]

Fincher is one of five favorite directors I have (Mann, Carpenter, Fincher, Soderbergh, Cronenberg)...

I love your favourites list. Please allow me to embellish it a little...

MANN: Is just about peerless in my view - Heat, The Insider and Collateral being true modern classics.

FINCHER: Can't make an uninteresting film. Many of his movies have issues, but are nevertheless of great interest and Fightclub is up there in the all time top ten.

SODERBURGH: Seems to have lost the plot of late with the Oceans sequels and the pretty banal Haywire (apart from the great Fassbinder fight). But Contagion was ok and i didn't see the Che films yet, but they look impressive.

But Out of sight, Traffic and Solaris are really great movies and The Limey (a loose remake of Get Carter) has wonderfully original editing, using delays in dialogue throughout certain conversations. He's long said that his Liberacie biopic, the currently shooting Behind The Candelabra will be his final movie, so i hope it's a good. What a shame he didn't recently get to make his version of The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

CRONENBERG: Reached a peak way back in '88 with Dead Ringers. However, he's continued to go from strength to strength ever since.

His more mainstream collaborations with Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises and History of Violence see him find the mainstream effortlessly. Best of all he's looking at a sequel to Eastern Promises.

Since Scanners he's been one of my favourite directors, up there with David Lynch. His Faber & Faber 'Cronenberg on Cronenberg' is a great read that adds a lot to the enjoyment of his movies. Many of his movies tell the same story of 'body-horror' and the possibilities of transformation biologically and physiologically, hence it's a shame he didn't make an Alien sequel.

It's not a perfect fit, but personally i'd pay double to see his take on Bond. I believe more than any other director that Cronenberg could show us the psychological slow-motion car crash that was developing throughout the arc of Fleming's novels. Also, we've seen how great Mortensen is in Cronenberg's hands - how about that as a nemesis for Craig's emotionally charged Bond....

Saving the best for last, CARPENTER...

Sadly he's really lost his aim now, but on form in the late 70's, from Halloween and Assault on Precinct 13, through to Escape From New York and The Thing there really isn't any filmmaker in history whose had such a sure hand at mainstream genre filmmaking.

Other directors like Romero and particuarly Lucas helped to make the B-movie mainstream, but it was Carpenter's ability to craft the coolest characters and watertight tensions that IMO single-handedly paved the way for the likes of James Cameron and his critically acclaimed as well as cool as hell Terminator in '84, which cemented the notion that genre blockbusters could be made for adults as well as the kiddies. It was Carpenter who originally showed the world that B-movies could be critically as well as commercially successful.

His last great movie was They Live in '88. Short on budget but big on ideas and a social commentary that seems even more pertinent now than in the Reagan's 80's it was intended to mirror. How i'd loved to have seen Carpenter's cynical, yet uber-cool take on Bond in the early 80's; how about Broccoli let James Brolin keep the Bond role in Octopussy, instead of re-instating Moore at the last minute, with Carpenter Directing - that might've been pretty damn cool?

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 03 August 2012 - 11:53 AM.

[lechero]

(on the other hand, we could get to see Marion Cotillard... now, that would be disastrous!)

Yep, truly disastrous...Hm..

[Messervy]

(on the other hand, we could get to see Marion Cotillard... now, that would be disastrous!)

Yep, truly disastrous...Hm..

I meant we would get to see her acting (well, trying to at least). That, indeed, would be disastrous.

[lechero]

She's alright. Have you seen La vie en rose?

[Messervy]

Yep. That's the only movie where she's (barely) bearable.
I thought she was disastrous in Inception, and disastrous in her last scenes in TDKR (the whole theater audience burst out laughing watching her last scene in TDKR).

[x007AceOfSpades]

Fincher is one of five favorite directors I have (Mann, Carpenter, Fincher, Soderbergh, Cronenberg)...

I love your favourites list. Please allow me to embellish it a little...

MANN: Is just about peerless in my view - Heat, The Insider and Collateral being true modern classics.

FINCHER: Can't make an uninteresting film. Many of his movies have issues, but are nevertheless of great interest and Fightclub is up there in the all time top ten.

SODERBURGH: Seems to have lost the plot of late with the Oceans sequels and the pretty banal Haywire (apart from the great Fassbinder fight). But Contagion was ok and i didn't see the Che films yet, but they look impressive.

But Out of sight, Traffic and Solaris are really great movies and The Limey (a loose remake of Get Carter) has wonderfully original editing, using delays in dialogue throughout certain conversations. He's long said that his Liberacie biopic, the currently shooting Behind The Candelabra will be his final movie, so i hope it's a good. What a shame he didn't recently get to make his version of The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

CRONENBERG: Reached a peak way back in '88 with Dead Ringers. However, he's continued to go from strength to strength ever since.

His more mainstream collaborations with Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises and History of Violence see him find the mainstream effortlessly. Best of all he's looking at a sequel to Eastern Promises.

Since Scanners he's been one of my favourite directors, up there with David Lynch. His Faber & Faber 'Cronenberg on Cronenberg' is a great read that adds a lot to the enjoyment of his movies. Many of his movies tell the same story of 'body-horror' and the possibilities of transformation biologically and physiologically, hence it's a shame he didn't make an Alien sequel.

It's not a perfect fit, but personally i'd pay double to see his take on Bond. I believe more than any other director that Cronenberg could show us the psychological slow-motion car crash that was developing throughout the arc of Fleming's novels. Also, we've seen how great Mortensen is in Cronenberg's hands - how about that as a nemesis for Craig's emotionally charged Bond....

Saving the best for last, CARPENTER...

Sadly he's really lost his aim now, but on form in the late 70's, from Halloween and Assault on Precinct 13, through to Escape From New York and The Thing there really isn't any filmmaker in history whose had such a sure hand at mainstream genre filmmaking.

Other directors like Romero and particuarly Lucas helped to make the B-movie mainstream, but it was Carpenter's ability to craft the coolest characters and watertight tensions that IMO single-handedly paved the way for the likes of James Cameron and his critically acclaimed as well as cool as hell Terminator in '84, which cemented the notion that genre blockbusters could be made for adults as well as the kiddies. It was Carpenter who originally showed the world that B-movies could be critically as well as commercially successful.

His last great movie was They Live in '88. Short on budget but big on ideas and a social commentary that seems even more pertinent now than in the Reagan's 80's it was intended to mirror. How i'd loved to have seen Carpenter's cynical, yet uber-cool take on Bond in the early 80's; how about Broccoli let James Brolin keep the Bond role in Octopussy, instead of re-instating Moore at the last minute, with Carpenter Directing - that might've been pretty damn cool?

Wow! You must've read my mind on those five! Well written no doubt. I had a great time reading all of that as well!

As for the other posts regarding Nolan and Cotillard, personally, I'm extremely un-satisfied with 75-90 % of casting in his films. it's Has if he doesn't try at all. There are other people out there who can play Miranda Tate in TDKR, did he really have to go with Marion? I liked her a lot in Public Enemies and that's about it. Didn't like her in Inception, not one bit. I felt Hathaway was a wrong choice for Selina Kyle/Catwoman. I understand that after a while a director builds a bond with an actor (Cronenberg & Mortensen, Burton & Depp etc) But is it necessary to cast almost 75% of the cast from your last film in your next film.

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 03 August 2012 - 03:01 PM.

[S K Y F A L L]

I still think 'Kathryn Bigelow' (The Hurt Locker) would be a good choice as the first female Bond director, although I don't know any other female directors.

Nolan wouldn't be the first person to use some of the same actors in his previous films, and I would very much doubt he plans on making his next film with all the same actors. I wonder why Nolan would even want to direct a Bond film since it would probably mean less money and less creative control.

David Fincher would NOT be a good choice since he uses more of the same actors in his films then Nolan and apparently that is a huge problem for some from what I read. It would also be confusing for audiences if Rooney Mara was a Bond woman, even more so if the Bond film was titled The Girl With The Diamond Bullet.

[JimmyBond]

It would also be confusing for audiences if Rooney Mara was a Bond woman, even more so if the Bond film was titled The Girl With The Diamond Bullet.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not here.

I'm hoping for the latter.

[S K Y F A L L]

If Kathryn Bigelow can direct the all-male Hurt Locker, how about a female director for Bond? “I’d be thrilled.” -Barbara Broccoli

From 'Barbara Broccoli on Skyfall' I just wanted to add it cause I just mentioned it in my last post. Kathryn Bigelow is getting old though, I think she is 66.
http://debrief.comma...62#entry1212662

[SecretAgentFan]

Campbell was older, right?

And Bigelow seems pretty fit!

[S K Y F A L L]

Campbell was older, right?

And Bigelow seems pretty fit!

She's only 60 actually, may bad. Perhaps we have a winner for Bond24 if Mendes does not return...

[JimmyBond]

Shame about Tony Scott. I always thought he'd be a good "left field" type choice for the directors chair.

I'm still firmly behind Michael Mann, I realize there's a slim to none chance of it happening, but a guy can dream.

[seawolfnyy]

David O. Russell or Gus Van Sant.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Shame about Tony Scott. I always thought he'd be a good "left field" type choice for the directors chair.

I'm still firmly behind Michael Mann, I realize there's a slim to none chance of it happening, but a guy can dream.

Tony Scott would have been great I think for the Brosnan era. I really want Mann to direct one too, He'd do a hell of a job.

[KM16]

I'd say Chris Nolan, David Yates would be interesting, Kenneth Branagh, David Fincher, Brad Bird...... did I mention Chris Nolan? lol

[Dustin]

I wonder, was that accidental when Barbara Broccoli recently mentioned Kathryn Bigelow in the Evening Standard? I doubt age would be an issue there.

Edited by Dustin, 06 September 2012 - 05:34 AM.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´d love the idea of a female director for Bond. And Bigelow definitely knows how to handle tension and action.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I'd say Chris Nolan, David Yates would be interesting, Kenneth Branagh, David Fincher, Brad Bird...... did I mention Chris Nolan? lol

Yes, you mentioned that hack. Fincher would be great, Branagh would be interesting, Bird's only done one live action film, I'd say he needs to do more, Not interested in Yates.