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[The Dove]

Goddammit!! This ing pisses me off!! At the rate this bull[censored] is going, we may not see Bond 23 until 2016 or by the time Daniel Craig reaches Roger Moore age in Octopussy and A View To A Kill.. Thanks a ing bunch MGM!!

[zencat]

So frustrating.

You know, the longer this goes on, the longer the bad taste of QOS lingers with me, and the less excited I am about the prospect of another DC Bond. I'm going to need to hear some exciting news soon (and the hiring of yet another director who's never made an action film is not going to do it).

This fanboy needs a bone because I'm about to bite.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Goddammit!! This ing pisses me off!! At the rate this bull[censored] is going, we may not see Bond 23 until 2016 or by the time Daniel Craig reaches Roger Moore age in Octopussy and A View To A Kill.. Thanks a ing bunch MGM!!

today is a dark day.




mgm needs to just die already

[Skudor]

So frustrating.

You know, the longer this goes on, the longer the bad taste of QOS lingers with me, and the less excited I am about the prospect of another DC Bond. I'm going to need to hear some exciting news soon (and the hiring of yet another director who's never made an action film is not going to do it).

This fanboy needs a bone because I'm about to bite.

I'm bored with DC already. Don't mind him, but he just doesn't do it for me anymore.

[zencat]

I love DC and he has all the potential in the world, but he now needs to be given a James Bond film for him to shine. Even thought he was every bit as good in QOS has he was in CR, QOS, as a film, was just a bleak experience. Not a world one wants to revisit again and again. I don't think he'll survive another QOS, which would be tragic as I really think he has the potential of being a fantastic long running Bond.

[Skudor]

I dunno. I'm starting to fancy something different. Of course, I'd just be disappointed. Craig will hopefully do one or two more. Another Quantum of Solace would do me just fine.

[Guy Haines]

July 14th it is. This situation is completely absurd.

man Imagine if we could live life like MGM "I swear I will pay you credit card company just give me 20 extensions thanks"

Reminds me of this quote from THE NAKED GUN 33 1/3rd:

Frank Drebin to Tanya Peters (Anna Nicole Smith): “This is your last chance. And I’m not talking about one of those Major League Baseball Steve Howe kind of last chances.”

Also reminds me of the U.S. foreign policy towards North Korea and Iran: keeping threatening sanctions and reprisals, but never making good on your word.

North Korea/Iran/MGM...a true axis of evil.

Reminds me of Monty Python's take on a certain branch of religious enforcers - "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! You have one last chance..... no, two last chances to repent.....no, three last chances!!!"

[Trident]

So frustrating.

You know, the longer this goes on, the longer the bad taste of QOS lingers with me, and the less excited I am about the prospect of another DC Bond. I'm going to need to hear some exciting news soon (and the hiring of yet another director who's never made an action film is not going to do it).

This fanboy needs a bone because I'm about to bite.

I'm bored with DC already. Don't mind him, but he just doesn't do it for me anymore.

Gentlemen, please, a little more confidence. Daniel Craig has only just begun his work. I'm sure there is ample potential to be explored both in his Bond and EON's direction post QOS. Let's not chicken out because of a mild inconvenience now.

I daresay the greater part of us is around now for some time, fans for years and sometimes even decades. Is that dedication really impaired so easily, by a couple of greedy suits battling it out on 007's back?

I sincerely hope that is not the case.

[blueman]

Still trying to stop the bleeding... by mid-July their paper should be worth about 37 cents on the dollar (hovering around 42 cents per now). There is a point where simply taking the money, anybody's money and for whatever amount, becomes the better deal for the creditors. I would've thought they'd reached it by now, guess they want to play hardball with EON: from the creditors POV, this ain't like Dalton as there's impetus for EON to make 23 with Craig to cash in and keep the franchise strong. Man, I wouldn't want to stare down Babs and Mikey, but can't fault the creditors for trying. FWIW, I think this prolonging the inevitable (ie taking a lower amount deal than they'd like) is gonna cost them money, and not hurt Bond at all.

Ah well, there's always QOS!

[Arbogast777]

Even though he was every bit as good in QOS has he was in CR, QOS, as a film, was just a bleak experience. Not a world one wants to revisit again and again.

Haven't been able to put into words how I've felt about QOS, Zencat, but that just did it. I liked it more than some the first time around but repeated viewings just haven't been doing it for me.

[Quantumofsolace007]

news from the future

May 14th 2042

Mgm has gotten their final extension from creditors promising now they have a plan to fix their company and restart the long forgotten 007 franchise wiht Sean Connery's great grandson William Connery in The Hildebrand Rarity.



Sadly this maybe a reality

[Germanlady]

Bond is back - now give him a film to do..



Daniel Craig, 42, leaves a meeting on May 14, 2010 carrying a leather jacket, a Blackberry, and a copy of the Peter Shaffer play "The Royal Hunt of the Sun," about the conquest of Peru. He waves goodbye to a friend on his way out.

Edited by Germanlady, 14 May 2010 - 08:46 PM.

[jaguar007]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

ok well why can someone buy them?

and i wonder if he will be that fit for bond 23 Daniel looks a bit buffer then CR or QOS

[Germanlady]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

ok well why can someone buy them?

and i wonder if he will be that fit for bond 23 Daniel looks a bit buffer then CR or QOS

He isn´t more buff, but certainly in great shape to fight those Aliens

[Quantumofsolace007]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

ok well why can someone buy them?

and i wonder if he will be that fit for bond 23 Daniel looks a bit buffer then CR or QOS

He isn´t more buff, but certainly in great shape to fight those Aliens

It pains me that Daniel Craig is my favorite bond and I'm getting only 2 films with him as 007 and one game.

[scaramunga]

Hopefully come the first of May, MGM's creditors will decide to liquidate and Sony will snap up Bond.

Keep waiting. The extension has been extended to July 14!

Bond 23! Coming in 2014!!!

[jaguar007]

It pains me that Daniel Craig is my favorite bond and I'm getting only 2 films with him as 007 and one game.

Don't worry, I don't think this delay will be as long as LTK-GE. At some point MGM's creditors will have had enough. I'm pretty certain that we will see Craig in another Bond film.

[JimmyBond]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

ok well why can someone buy them?

and i wonder if he will be that fit for bond 23 Daniel looks a bit buffer then CR or QOS

He isn´t more buff, but certainly in great shape to fight those Aliens

It pains me that Daniel Craig is my favorite bond and I'm getting only 2 films with him as 007 and one game.

It could be worse. We could never get another Bond film.

[Guy Haines]

14th July. Known in France, I think, as Bastille Day. Somebody in the film production/studio/big money world ought to get the chop for this ongoing nonsense!

I'm imagining a revenge something like this:

Tres bonne! (apologies if even that little bit of French is wrong - I was much better at German when I was at school! )

[Double-Oh Agent]

I just don't see the reason for the creditors to keep on granting these extensions. MGM is barely making any films now and that, combined with the fact that their two cash cows The Hobbit and Bond 23 won't be going into production until this matter is settled means they won't be bringing in much money at all in the foreseeable future--hardly conducive to paying off their massive debt.

The only reason I can see why the creditors keep granting extensions is that they hope someone will finally buy MGM - that is the only way they will get a full payback on their loan.

I suppose, but after the spring's bidding war that saw Warner Brothers being the last studio standing with a top bid of $1.5 billion or $1.7 billion (depending on which figure you believe), their offer is hardly likely to go up any higher--certainly not to the amount the creditors want to reach to extricate themselves from this mess. After all, why should/would Warner Brothers bid against themselves? The creditors and MGM need to resolve their situation a lot more than Warner Brothers needs MGM.

[Trident]

This is not really about MGM any more. I suspect nobody is interested in that company (beyond a few odd pieces of real estate, and film library) any more. What the creditors are aiming for now is a substantial part of the entire Bond franchise. MGM's follies have sent sums down the drain that could never be compensated by a percentage of BOND 23; perhaps not even by BOND 23 plus 24 plus 25 all together. Also one has to consider that sending MGM into legal bankruptcy might well result in the Bond rights automatically falling back on EON, rendering the creditor's leverage on the affair useless.

They won't call it a day, period. Not unless they see some heavy compensation and who's prepared to pay that bill...?

[Safari Suit]

news from the future

May 14th 2042

Mgm has gotten their final extension from creditors promising now they have a plan to fix their company and restart the long forgotten 007 franchise wiht Sean Connery's great grandson William Connery in The Hildebrand Rarity.



Sadly this maybe a reality

Don't be ridiculous. They're never going to use The Hildebrand Rarity as a title.

[DamnCoffee]

Goddammit!! This ing pisses me off!! At the rate this bull[censored] is going, we may not see Bond 23 until 2016 or by the time Daniel Craig reaches Roger Moore age in Octopussy and A View To A Kill.. Thanks a ing bunch MGM!!

I completely agree. This is a ing disgrace.

[MattofSteel]

This is not really about MGM any more. I suspect nobody is interested in that company (beyond a few odd pieces of real estate, and film library) any more. What the creditors are aiming for now is a substantial part of the entire Bond franchise. MGM's follies have sent sums down the drain that could never be compensated by a percentage of BOND 23; perhaps not even by BOND 23 plus 24 plus 25 all together. Also one has to consider that sending MGM into legal bankruptcy might well result in the Bond rights automatically falling back on EON, rendering the creditor's leverage on the affair useless.

They won't call it a day, period. Not unless they see some heavy compensation and who's prepared to pay that bill...?

You're absolutely right.

Frustrating as it is, there is no reason - absolutely no reason - for them to move quicker. They're screwed, and they know it, and the only thing they can do now is hold out (as long as possible) for the best available return on these assets.

Releaseing the next 4 'Avatar' pictures might not even stave off $4 billion in debt.

I agree with the consensus - it's a disgrace, Bond is trapped in the middle, and there's basically nothing we can do about it. I'd suggest a petition...if it mattered.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I mean this is just so annoyingly horrible I wonder had Eon got there buts in gear and was filming now for a November 2010 would the Mgm delays mean anything to us. I do believe they have a film coming out in the fall but i'm sure like Hot tup time Machine it will bomb.


MGM Just Sell your rights to 007 and disband NOW.


I mean this is so unfair Eon finally has an actor who loves being bond and it clearly show in his work (Brosnan loved the money could care less about the role post Goldeneye and it clearly shows) the fans love him The producers love him Why Mgm why must you be so evil!


Ironically this news has me and everyone else on this borad including Mharkin agreeing MGM MUST DIE

[tdalton]

I mean this is just so annoyingly horrible I wonder had Eon got there buts in gear and was filming now for a November 2010 would the Mgm delays mean anything to us. I do believe they have a film coming out in the fall but i'm sure like Hot tup time Machine it will bomb.


MGM Just Sell your rights to 007 and disband NOW.


I mean this is so unfair Eon finally has an actor who loves being bond and it clearly show in his work (Brosnan loved the money could care less about the role post Goldeneye and it clearly shows) the fans love him The producers love him Why Mgm why must you be so evil!

It has nothing to do with EON not having gotten their act together. From comments made by Wilson after QUANTUM, it was always intended that they were going to take a bit longer with the next film just because they had just spent four years searching for a new Bond and making CASINO ROYALE and then turned right around and made QUANTUM OF SOLACE immediately afterwards (pre-production actually started before CASINO ROYALE even premiered). They were always intending to take a bit of a break to recharge the batteries, so this doesn't really have anything to do at all with them not having their act together. Taking a break was always part of the plan.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I mean this is just so annoyingly horrible I wonder had Eon got there buts in gear and was filming now for a November 2010 would the Mgm delays mean anything to us. I do believe they have a film coming out in the fall but i'm sure like Hot tup time Machine it will bomb.


MGM Just Sell your rights to 007 and disband NOW.


I mean this is so unfair Eon finally has an actor who loves being bond and it clearly show in his work (Brosnan loved the money could care less about the role post Goldeneye and it clearly shows) the fans love him The producers love him Why Mgm why must you be so evil!

It has nothing to do with EON not having gotten their act together. From comments made by Wilson after QUANTUM, it was always intended that they were going to take a bit longer with the next film just because they had just spent four years searching for a new Bond and making CASINO ROYALE and then turned right around and made QUANTUM OF SOLACE immediately afterwards (pre-production actually started before CASINO ROYALE even premiered). They were always intending to take a bit of a break to recharge the batteries, so this doesn't really have anything to do at all with them not having their act together. Taking a break was always part of the plan.

True but playing Devil's advocate if bond 23 was already filming I don't think the MGM stuff would have that much of an impact on say Bond 24.


But alas I'm afraid I'm grasping at straws I tend to do that when I just wake up and for that I apologize.


It annoys me that right now Bond is slowly being suffocated.

[MattofSteel]

Bond 23 was never going to be released in 2010.

November 2011, however, was an entirely realistic possibility. I wouldn't want to say that, in the case of a miracle, that release date still couldn't be made (depending on how far along the script is, and how much preparation Mendes has actually done).

I believe Forster was announced in July 2008, apparently with a script in rough or nonexistant shape, and filming commenced the following January for a November release.

Assuming the script might already be in somewhat of a solid state, were Mendes to be announced later this summer and the ball rolling in January as per usual, November 2011 is still a possibility.

But not a likelihood, given these MGM dragons' capacity for greed, stubbornness, and naivete in thinking there's a way out of the situation. That being said - if the MGM situation is indeed resolved by the end of 2010, I see no reason Bond 23 can't be released in Summer 2012.

Which would be a painful, yet manageable delay, of only about 5-6 months.

[JimmyBond]

I mean this is just so annoyingly horrible I wonder had Eon got there buts in gear and was filming now for a November 2010 would the Mgm delays mean anything to us. I do believe they have a film coming out in the fall but i'm sure like Hot tup time Machine it will bomb.


MGM Just Sell your rights to 007 and disband NOW.


I mean this is so unfair Eon finally has an actor who loves being bond and it clearly show in his work (Brosnan loved the money could care less about the role post Goldeneye and it clearly shows) the fans love him The producers love him Why Mgm why must you be so evil!

It has nothing to do with EON not having gotten their act together. From comments made by Wilson after QUANTUM, it was always intended that they were going to take a bit longer with the next film just because they had just spent four years searching for a new Bond and making CASINO ROYALE and then turned right around and made QUANTUM OF SOLACE immediately afterwards (pre-production actually started before CASINO ROYALE even premiered). They were always intending to take a bit of a break to recharge the batteries, so this doesn't really have anything to do at all with them not having their act together. Taking a break was always part of the plan.

True but playing Devil's advocate if bond 23 was already filming I don't think the MGM stuff would have that much of an impact on say Bond 24.

It could be even worse than it is now if Bond 23 was already filming. If funding fell through because of this mess they could have shut down production and we'd be left with an incomplete Bond film...that in all likelihood would have remained unreleased.