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[sharpshooter]

You know, all this is just going to make me appreciate and enjoy Bond 23 that much more when it does finally arrive.

[Germanlady]

Saltzman was the man with the vision - in the beginning he owned the film rights to Bond, not Albert R. Broccolli, and that's one reason his name went first on the credits.

Actually, they alternated. Saltzman's name came first on some prints, Broccoli's name came first on others.

So MGM settlement announcement/EON blazing ahead into pre-production announcement in two weeks? Sweet!

Not sure where you get that idea from. Even if MGM officially declares bankruptcy at the beginning of May, it's still going to take months to sort out all the legalities regarding the EON/MGM arrangement, and then several more months before EON settles on a new partner.

Maybe, but the new partner could be around the corner already - waiting to make his bite - in agreement with EON.

[Quantumofsolace007]

This is pribably a mistake on their part but yesterday I was watching channel 5 news and they said that Bond 23 has been put on hold and that preproduction had stopped in Vancouver.

Bond 23 in Canada interesting I would of liked it.

[Glenn]

The rumour mongering never ends. Even the BBC are at it

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/8635409.stm


Unbelievable.

(sorry if this has been posted somewhere else already)

[Dr. Metz]

British actor Christian Bale is 7/1 to take on the highly coveted role - as is Hollywood star Will Smith.

Since when was Will Smith ever thought to become bond someday?

[Rufus Ffolkes]

Having seen Avatar and the Clash of the Titans remake, I'm completely baffled as to what Hollywood sees in Sam Worthington.

[Sebastian Tombs]

I'm hearing talk of Mendes walking off to do a prequel to "The Wizard of Oz." Anyone hear anything about that?

[Quantumofsolace007]

Sigh i want Bond 23 to happen with Craig!

[dodge]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of delay we're realistically facing? Or is it all up in the air?

It's up in the air, and I don't think anyone other than EON can say with a certainty when they think it's going to end.

I do not expect, however, to use the gap between 89-95 as the measuring stick for how long this thing might go on, because the issues back then going into the gap and coming out of it were completely and totally different. The series was in a much weaker position back then, and that's not even including all the troubles with the studio.

My belief is that if everything was resolved right now, this very minute with EON, you'd have a press release in VARIETY the very next day announcing a title, a director, a start date, a release date and a partial cast list that includes Craig and Dench. I have no doubt that EON knows exactly where they want to go with the storyline and how they intend to get there.

This is strictly a legal matter, and not a no-confidence vote on the creative direction the series has taken. In fact, it has nothing to do with the creative side of the decision making. There's no issue with Craig being the next 007 with any of the studio people concerned as there was back in 1989-1992, when MGM execs had doubts about bringing Dalton back. Back then EON was having to wage war to move forward on multiple fronts; not so this time.

So I think people who are scared or panicking need to take a deep breath and try to relax. This will resolve itself much quicker, I believe, than last time primarily because, I think, the legal issues are much more stark and in black and white; this is basically a straight, up or down process on how to go into and emerge from bankruptcy (hopefully).

As a bonus, some of us that didn't want Mendes to direct the next film may get our wish. It would also allow time for EON to think about filming back-to-back films to make up for lost time. This *CAN* be turned into a positive if people just give it a chance.

A consummation devoutly to be wished. Think Positive, Think Positive, Think Positive...

[Mr. Somerset]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of delay we're realistically facing? Or is it all up in the air?

It's up in the air, and I don't think anyone other than EON can say with a certainty when they think it's going to end.

I do not expect, however, to use the gap between 89-95 as the measuring stick for how long this thing might go on, because the issues back then going into the gap and coming out of it were completely and totally different. The series was in a much weaker position back then, and that's not even including all the troubles with the studio.

My belief is that if everything was resolved right now, this very minute with EON, you'd have a press release in VARIETY the very next day announcing a title, a director, a start date, a release date and a partial cast list that includes Craig and Dench. I have no doubt that EON knows exactly where they want to go with the storyline and how they intend to get there.

This is strictly a legal matter, and not a no-confidence vote on the creative direction the series has taken. In fact, it has nothing to do with the creative side of the decision making. There's no issue with Craig being the next 007 with any of the studio people concerned as there was back in 1989-1992, when MGM execs had doubts about bringing Dalton back. Back then EON was having to wage war to move forward on multiple fronts; not so this time.

So I think people who are scared or panicking need to take a deep breath and try to relax. This will resolve itself much quicker, I believe, than last time primarily because, I think, the legal issues are much more stark and in black and white; this is basically a straight, up or down process on how to go into and emerge from bankruptcy (hopefully).

As a bonus, some of us that didn't want Mendes to direct the next film may get our wish. It would also allow time for EON to think about filming back-to-back films to make up for lost time. This *CAN* be turned into a positive if people just give it a chance.

I love the positivity. Excellent post, and I agree. This is no where near the situation EON faced in 1990. It's a matter of MGM getting there situation sorted out, and or someone else, like, say SONY stepping in and aquiring the distribution rights. In 1990 it was an intense lawsuit. Anyway, I look towards May 14th, when MGM has their extension deadline met for further news.

[PPK_19]

Its surely just simply a case of a major studio thinking 'the last two bond films have grossed over a billion dollars all together worldwide, let's buy the franchise'....problem solved.
Bond is such a money spinner, i'm optimistic the hiatus will last less then 6 months.

[Quantumofsolace007]

here's hoping bond 23 is out with Daniel Craig sometime in the next 2 years

[bond girl 007]

[/b[b]Why are MGM remaining silent surely we deserve some kind of explanation as to why this has come about I am just gutted some one at MGM should be giving us the reason behind this

[Cilogy]

Its like someone said before.

We will probably have a repeat of the 1989 - 1995 period.

Sad day.

[zencat]

[/b[b]Why are MGM remaining silent surely we deserve some kind of explanation as to why this has come about I am just gutted some one at MGM should be giving us the reason behind this

Hey, the MGM Titanic is finally going down and everyone remaining is heading for the lifeboats (those fool enough to remain on board this disaster for the past...20 years). No need, no desire, no time for explanations.

[blueman]

So MGM settlement announcement/EON blazing ahead into pre-production announcement in two weeks? Sweet!

Not sure where you get that idea from. Even if MGM officially declares bankruptcy at the beginning of May, it's still going to take months to sort out all the legalities regarding the EON/MGM arrangement, and then several more months before EON settles on a new partner.

Maybe, but the new partner could be around the corner already - waiting to make his bite - in agreement with EON.

Not expecting a bankruptcy, because of the delay that would cause.

[[dark]]

The rumour mongering never ends. Even the BBC are at it

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/8635409.stm


Unbelievable.

There is an interesting snippet in there, though it's probably unfounded.

Some are speculating, though, that Craig, Wilson and Broccoli will use the break to collaborate on another project.

Broccoli, daughter of long-time Bond producer Albert 'Cubby' Broccoli, is known to have purchased the film rights to A Steady Rain, the Broadway play Craig appeared in with X-Men star Hugh Jackman last year.

If made, the film would be the first non-Bond film made by the Eon production company since Bob Hope comedy Call Me Bwana in 1963.

On Wednesday, an Eon spokeswoman refused to comment on the speculation.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Remote Control?

[Jeff007]

The rumour mongering never ends. Even the BBC are at it

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/8635409.stm


Unbelievable.

There is an interesting snippet in there, though it's probably unfounded.

Some are speculating, though, that Craig, Wilson and Broccoli will use the break to collaborate on another project.

Broccoli, daughter of long-time Bond producer Albert 'Cubby' Broccoli, is known to have purchased the film rights to A Steady Rain, the Broadway play Craig appeared in with X-Men star Hugh Jackman last year.

If made, the film would be the first non-Bond film made by the Eon production company since Bob Hope comedy Call Me Bwana in 1963.

On Wednesday, an Eon spokeswoman refused to comment on the speculation.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Remote Control?

Interesting observation.

[Cody]

Some are speculating, though, that Craig, Wilson and Broccoli will use the break to collaborate on another project.

Broccoli, daughter of long-time Bond producer Albert 'Cubby' Broccoli, is known to have purchased the film rights to A Steady Rain, the Broadway play Craig appeared in with X-Men star Hugh Jackman last year.

I've been hoping they'd put that on film.

[Napoleon Solo]

A NYT blog weighs in

http://hmssweblog.wo...furloughed-007/

[Syndicate]

MGM just don't want themselves to be movie history and not continue to make movie history. They want themselves to be still around since the golden age of Hollywood, just like Warner Bros., Fox, Walt Disney, Universal, Paramount Pictures and Columbia Pictures. They don't want to losse what is part of their studio's history and how it came about.

As I said before using this phase aboutand changing it a little, "If it hadn't been for Q branch you've been dead long ago", changing that to "If it hadn't been for James Bond branch you've been dead long ago." I think they know that and that why they are not selling the right aways. Well their part of it at less.

My guess is in a way MGM is glad Warner Bros did not get all the rights to all their movies to be put out on DVD and Blu-Ray, so they can still make some money out of that like The Good The Bad And The Ugly, To Live And Die In LA, Hour Of The Gun, The Russia House, Year Of The Dragon, The Pink Panther, The Thomas Crown Affair, Guys And Dolls, Kansas City Confidential, A Fistful Of Dollars, In The Heat Of The Night, Exodus, The Woman in the Window, Battle Of Britian, A Bridge Too Far, The Manchurian Candidate, The Magnificent Seven, Kings of the Sun, The Wizard Of Oz, Force 10 From Navarone and West Side Story.

Edited by Syndicate, 22 April 2010 - 12:31 AM.

[doubler83]

Looks like BBC Breakfast (which is on now) is going to be having a small snippet on the whole saga. Sometime between now and the end of the show.

Unfortunately I have no way of recording it, but I thought I'd let you know.

[Zorin Industries]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of delay we're realistically facing? Or is it all up in the air?

It's up in the air, and I don't think anyone other than EON can say with a certainty when they think it's going to end.

I do not expect, however, to use the gap between 89-95 as the measuring stick for how long this thing might go on, because the issues back then going into the gap and coming out of it were completely and totally different. The series was in a much weaker position back then, and that's not even including all the troubles with the studio.

My belief is that if everything was resolved right now, this very minute with EON, you'd have a press release in VARIETY the very next day announcing a title, a director, a start date, a release date and a partial cast list that includes Craig and Dench. I have no doubt that EON knows exactly where they want to go with the storyline and how they intend to get there.

This is strictly a legal matter, and not a no-confidence vote on the creative direction the series has taken. In fact, it has nothing to do with the creative side of the decision making. There's no issue with Craig being the next 007 with any of the studio people concerned as there was back in 1989-1992, when MGM execs had doubts about bringing Dalton back. Back then EON was having to wage war to move forward on multiple fronts; not so this time.

So I think people who are scared or panicking need to take a deep breath and try to relax. This will resolve itself much quicker, I believe, than last time primarily because, I think, the legal issues are much more stark and in black and white; this is basically a straight, up or down process on how to go into and emerge from bankruptcy (hopefully).

Heavily agreed.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of delay we're realistically facing? Or is it all up in the air?

It's up in the air, and I don't think anyone other than EON can say with a certainty when they think it's going to end.

I do not expect, however, to use the gap between 89-95 as the measuring stick for how long this thing might go on, because the issues back then going into the gap and coming out of it were completely and totally different. The series was in a much weaker position back then, and that's not even including all the troubles with the studio.

My belief is that if everything was resolved right now, this very minute with EON, you'd have a press release in VARIETY the very next day announcing a title, a director, a start date, a release date and a partial cast list that includes Craig and Dench. I have no doubt that EON knows exactly where they want to go with the storyline and how they intend to get there.

This is strictly a legal matter, and not a no-confidence vote on the creative direction the series has taken. In fact, it has nothing to do with the creative side of the decision making. There's no issue with Craig being the next 007 with any of the studio people concerned as there was back in 1989-1992, when MGM execs had doubts about bringing Dalton back. Back then EON was having to wage war to move forward on multiple fronts; not so this time.

So I think people who are scared or panicking need to take a deep breath and try to relax. This will resolve itself much quicker, I believe, than last time primarily because, I think, the legal issues are much more stark and in black and white; this is basically a straight, up or down process on how to go into and emerge from bankruptcy (hopefully).

Heavily agreed.

I agree as well

I think i was premature to put bond 23 in the same boat as Ghostbusters 3.

[Zorin Industries]

There is no link / boat or comparison with GHOSTBUSTERS III and BOND 23. Completely different instances, contexts and projects.

[The Ghost Who Walks]

There is no link / boat or comparison with GHOSTBUSTERS III and BOND 23. Completely different instances, contexts and projects.

The one thing they'll hopefully have in common is that they'll be better than the respective "second ones" (or twenty-second).

[Quantumofsolace007]

There is no link / boat or comparison with GHOSTBUSTERS III and BOND 23. Completely different instances, contexts and projects.

Im well aware but remember I was about to put bond 23 on my list of films I'll never see and in development Hell and outside of say Maybe the A-team movie (which has been rumored since 1987 and is finally coming out NOW) I can't think of a more appropriate film that literally has been in development Hell.


Personally I still don't get why they don't do exactly what they did for the video game I'd love a CGI ghost busters 3 with the original actors providing their voices but that is besides the point.

but that is for another forum and another time Back on topic Bond 23 Is going to come out much sooner rather then later. I doubt we will have a 6 year delay (or a delay of A-team size portions)

Let's all relax enjoy the month of April and early may look forward to MGm being resolved and exciting Bond news happening (probably) most of the summer.

[Zorin Industries]

But BOND 23 is not in "development hell". And what IS development hell? Why is that phrase bandied about so easily?

If a film is not being made that does not imply it is in development hell.

[Trident]

But BOND 23 is not in "development hell". And what IS development hell? Why is that phrase bandied about so easily?

If a film is not being made that does not imply it is in development hell.

Oh, isn't that clear already? 'Development Hell' is the place where fans are burning, once a film doesn't keep up some kind of 'private' schedule. So effectively it's right here, in a Sartre sense...

[Dell Deaton]

But BOND 23 is not in "development hell". And what IS development hell? Why is that phrase bandied about so easily?

If a film is not being made that does not imply it is in development hell.

Oh, isn't that clear already? 'Development Hell' is the place where fans are burning, once a film doesn't keep up some kind of 'private' schedule. So effectively it's right here, in a Sartre sense...

Indeed.