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Who do you want for Bond 7? * POLL ADDED*


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Poll: In lieu of proper news, let's have an opinion...

Do you think Daniel Craig will return for BOND 25?

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Now that's out of the way, do you WANT Daniel Craig to return as Bond?

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Suppose Daniel Craig will be back as 007, for how many films would you wish to see him back?

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Should Daniel Craig not return as James Bond, would you want the current timeline continued?

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#2221 univex

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 01:13 PM

 

 

 

An actor being homosexual or the character being homosexual are two very different things.

I would have no problem with the first scenario. No problem at all.

 

"Being white has never been something that is inherently central to the character of Bond."

But Fleming did write about a man, who happened to be white in his books, called James Bond. This is not a racist argument, damn it! 

 

If Elba played Bond he would probably do a fantastic job. I´d love it, probably. Bond could also be played by someone of Indian heritage. There are superb Indian actors, and with the right looks. But it wouldn´t be Fleming´s Bond. Even Craig is not Fleming´s Bond. Granted, maybe none of them were. And I do like the blondie as Bond. If I wrote the character one way, and it was depicted in another, it would not be my character anymore. Now I see why le Carré gets mad with most of the adaptations. It´s a writers opinion, that´s all. I do hope that, one day, they´ll make a closer adaptation to the source, character looks wise. 

 

BTW, does it show I´m getting through a Bond crisis. I am. It started after Spectre and I can´t get my finger on why, but I don´t feel like watching any of the films. The books now, different matter. Oh well, season fever probably. 

 

BTW, the gangsta hat crap was a Kingsman sort of reference. Can´t really get how people liked that stuff. 

 

Interestingly, though the main character in Kingsman was 'gangsta' we still knew who/what character was being referenced.  ;)

 

The "gangsta" I was referring to was the main kid, don´t remember his name. This fella:

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My point was - despite the characteristics (gangsta/streetwise) of the main protagonist in Kingsman, we still knew what other character *cough cough* James Bond *cough cough* the Kingsman fella was imitating. 

 

Anywho it's a matter of opinion and perspective! I have enjoyed this debate, but think we should stay on topic for the thread!

 

So... Tom Hiddleston...

 

 

Oh, point taken :) Thanks.

 

Back on topic then.

Yeah, Hiddleston or Aidan Turner, I´d say. 

...or Bryce.



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 01:30 PM

Hiddleston's too baby faced I think, I don't mind Luke Evans for the part but somehow I don't think his career is in the right place for EON.



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 08:16 PM

For what (little) it's worth, Yahoo Movies have done a 'next Bond poll':

 

1. Tom Hardy 26% 

2. Tom Hiddleston 19% 
3. Idris Elba 14.9% 
4. Henry Cavill 11.1% 
5. Michael Fassbender 9.2% 
6. Jason Statham 6.3% 
7. Aidan Turner 3.3% 
8. Jamie Dornan 2.7% 
9. Benedict Cumberbatch 2.5% 
10. Damien Lewis 2.2% 
11. James Norton 1.9% 
12. David Oyelewo 0.8%

 

 

To gauge the size of the poll, Hardy's 26% = 1292 votes, so that's just over 5000 people polled.
 
For me there's no doubt that Hardy is by far the best choice, but i doubt he'd do it (unless Nolan or Refn where directing, perhaps).
 


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Posted 10 March 2016 - 08:19 PM

 

For what (little) it's worth, Yahoo Movies have done a 'next Bond poll':

 

1. Tom Hardy 26% 

2. Tom Hiddleston 19% 
3. Idris Elba 14.9% 
4. Henry Cavill 11.1% 
5. Michael Fassbender 9.2% 
6. Jason Statham 6.3% 
7. Aidan Turner 3.3% 
8. Jamie Dornan 2.7% 
9. Benedict Cumberbatch 2.5% 
10. Damien Lewis 2.2% 
11. James Norton 1.9% 
12. David Oyelewo 0.8%

 

 

For me there's no doubt that Hardy is by far the best choice, but i doubt he'd do it (unless Nolan or Refn where directing, perhaps).
 

 

 

I used to think Hardy would be a good choice, but I think he's 4+ years too late. His career has gone too Hollywood for Eon in my opinion. 



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:00 PM

Hardy would be better as a villain/henchman, anyway.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:37 PM

Hardy would be better as a villain/henchman, anyway.

Whatever part he plays he'll steal the movie.


 

 

For what (little) it's worth, Yahoo Movies have done a 'next Bond poll':

 

1. Tom Hardy 26% 

2. Tom Hiddleston 19% 
3. Idris Elba 14.9% 
4. Henry Cavill 11.1% 
5. Michael Fassbender 9.2% 
6. Jason Statham 6.3% 
7. Aidan Turner 3.3% 
8. Jamie Dornan 2.7% 
9. Benedict Cumberbatch 2.5% 
10. Damien Lewis 2.2% 
11. James Norton 1.9% 
12. David Oyelewo 0.8%

 

 

For me there's no doubt that Hardy is by far the best choice, but i doubt he'd do it (unless Nolan or Refn where directing, perhaps).
 

 

 

I used to think Hardy would be a good choice, but I think he's 4+ years too late. His career has gone too Hollywood for Eon in my opinion. 

 

If by 'too Hollywood' you mean he's getting every great part under the sun thrown at him, then indeed he's gone too Hollywood - like Spielberg, they probably couldn't afford him now.



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Posted 11 March 2016 - 09:21 AM

 

Hardy would be better as a villain/henchman, anyway.

Whatever part he plays he'll steal the movie.


 

 

For what (little) it's worth, Yahoo Movies have done a 'next Bond poll':

 

1. Tom Hardy 26% 

2. Tom Hiddleston 19% 
3. Idris Elba 14.9% 
4. Henry Cavill 11.1% 
5. Michael Fassbender 9.2% 
6. Jason Statham 6.3% 
7. Aidan Turner 3.3% 
8. Jamie Dornan 2.7% 
9. Benedict Cumberbatch 2.5% 
10. Damien Lewis 2.2% 
11. James Norton 1.9% 
12. David Oyelewo 0.8%

 

 

For me there's no doubt that Hardy is by far the best choice, but i doubt he'd do it (unless Nolan or Refn where directing, perhaps).
 

 

 

I used to think Hardy would be a good choice, but I think he's 4+ years too late. His career has gone too Hollywood for Eon in my opinion. 

 

If by 'too Hollywood' you mean he's getting every great part under the sun thrown at him, then indeed he's gone too Hollywood - like Spielberg, they probably couldn't afford him now.

 

Exactly, he's outpriced himself.



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Posted 11 March 2016 - 08:47 PM

Exactly, he's outpriced himself.

You make it sound like a bad thing!

 

Every actor worth their salt wants roles as diverse and high calibre as those falling Hardy's way and would undoubtedly love to be in his position, Si if they rightly (on the strength of how Bond has arguably curtailed the careers of all but Connery) feel that Bond were an obstacle to them achieving that they'd pass on it in a heartbeat..

 

That's the dilemma, the minuscule target of actors both high calibre and willing to be absolutely type cast, at least until well after they cease being Bond. There's a short window of time between actors proven they have the chops for Bond and then being 'priced out' of Bond.



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Posted 12 March 2016 - 02:31 PM

Hardy doesn't look the part at all. He's more the evil henchman.

He wasn't realy great as Mad Max either, Charlize Theron was much better and stole the movie from him.



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Posted 12 March 2016 - 03:03 PM

 

Exactly, he's outpriced himself.

You make it sound like a bad thing!

 

Every actor worth their salt wants roles as diverse and high calibre as those falling Hardy's way and would undoubtedly love to be in his position, Si if they rightly (on the strength of how Bond has arguably curtailed the careers of all but Connery) feel that Bond were an obstacle to them achieving that they'd pass on it in a heartbeat..

 

That's the dilemma, the minuscule target of actors both high calibre and willing to be absolutely type cast, at least until well after they cease being Bond. There's a short window of time between actors proven they have the chops for Bond and then being 'priced out' of Bond.

 

 

No necessarily a bad thing - but it is if he wants the part!



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Posted 12 March 2016 - 05:14 PM

Hardy doesn't look the part at all. He's more the evil henchman.

 

I agree on this - he would definitely be a menacing opponent for Bond.   I would love an interesting henchman who not only is physically fear-inducing but who could also be highly intelligent, maybe even killing his superior, taking over as the main villain.  Would be a good twist on the villain/henchman-dynamic.



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Posted 12 March 2016 - 06:17 PM

Hardy doesn't look the part at all. He's more the evil henchman.

He wasn't realy great as Mad Max either, Charlize Theron was much better and stole the movie from him.

The story and the majority of the 2nd and 3rd acts are centred upon Furiosa, so it's not surprising that Charlize (who was great in the part) stole the movie - it was gifted to her.

 

Max's character was written as a sideshow to Furiosa's story. That has nothing to do with Hardy not delivering. In fact he should be applauded for understanding how this central story functioned and applying himself to serve it. Many lesser actors may have overacted the part in fear of being sidelined and ended up confusing the story's trajectory. He's a very intelligent actor.

 

With what little the script gave him, which included virtually no dialogue, i thought Hardy delivered superbly. He understands body language and sound/noises that are not 'language' so well that he convinces you of his character, his motivations and nuance without the screen time and dialogue necessary for most actors to convey those messages.

 

His tour de force is the BBC tv movie Stuart: A Life Backwards. IMHO It's a better performance than the vast majority that have won actors Oscars since their inception.

 

As for him playing a villain...Well any Bond movie would be vastly improved by his presence, whether it be as Bond, the villain, or Moneypenny.



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 03:02 AM

I'd like to see an up & coming actor take on the role. Someone who's done theater work & small films. Just my 2 cents



#2234 univex

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:23 PM

I'd like to see an up & coming actor take on the role. Someone who's done theater work & small films. Just my 2 cents

 

Turner fits that description.

http://www.radiotime...ginal/93057.jpg

http://i1.mirror.co....idan-Turner.jpg

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 08:28 PM

And a tiny film called The Hobbit.

 

 

I'd like to see an up & coming actor take on the role. Someone who's done theater work & small films. Just my 2 cents

 

Turner fits that description.

http://www.radiotime...ginal/93057.jpg

http://i1.mirror.co....idan-Turner.jpg

http://assets.whatso...-high- copy.jpg

 



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 01:04 AM

Hiddleston would be very interesting.  He certainly can play the hero who is not necessarily up to all good.  So, when it's time for him to enjoy dispatching with someone who was particularly nasty, he can be convincing.  The Bond of the Books (TBOTB) -- nod head here, for those who revere and still want it to be THAT WAY and we all know "the Books" means FLEMING -- was capable of being ruthless and cruel.

 

Hiddleston also seems to fit the bill of being not just tall, but a little thin.  TBOTB was just that.

 

TBOTB's face was not pretty: a little Hoagy Carmichael-ish, with a scar added and a black comma of hair always falling down.  Hiddleston is a bit too handsome in that regard, perhaps, but in the movies it works well to have a handsome guy in the part, as long as he is believable in the fights and with being tough and mean when needed.

 

I'd find Elba very interesting, but he may be getting too old.

 

Hardy -- too late, and I doubt he'd be interested in more than a couple films, if that many.

 

I've written before that the real problem is not so much casting -- there's always an up and comer out there at just the right time, if the producers are patient and open-minded.  The problem is:  What to do now ?

Go back to relatively simple-minded heroic action films ?  The Craig Bonds have had gravitas.  Additionally, whether they get another film (or more) out of Craig, the next Bond thereafter must be a re-boot.  Calm down, it won't be that bad.  It will, by then, have been a long time since CR, or, perhaps more to the point, since the prior Bond film and actor before the current one's first film. 

 

Ideas:

 

Go period with Elba, starting with LALD and have the Service bring the new young guy up to 00 status because he's the right guy for this job ?  OK, but would it have been credible --- I am not strong on British history of the era -- to have a man of color -- any color -- serving in the armed forces at officer level (or any ?) for Great Britain at that time ?  For all I know, a man of color might have had poor chances getting to be an officer, but may well have been used as a spy and secret agent.  Have him brought up from South Africa or somewhere else ?  That would drastically change the back-story of Bond but come on, at this point, his back story has been:  in the past mostly ignored and, more recently, portrayed very well.

 

People might say, well, that's just another character now, so why make him Bond at all ?  Point taken.  But constantly going back with the same history gets harder and harder to do and still be interesting.  If the history of GB means a man of color would not be credible, then, since CR was recently played, start over at LALD set in the present ?  Too trite if the actor is black because the villain is, too ?  No one minds a white hero with a white villain, but  OK, but perhaps not an issue if the villain is NOT the same race as the hero.  In a remake of LALD, Bond can be black, and the villain can be -- whatever....(Hmm -- bring in Hardy for this, eh ?)  The "he fools everyone he's really two people" storyline would not fly, but perhaps two distinct aspects of the man's life could work.  Skip MR since DAD incorporated and re-told much of MR.  Going back a bit, Hiddleston could very well play an English Bond set in the 1950s, though, of course, after making a few period films with him Elba thereafter would more certainly be too old.  Either way you start this idea out, it seems you get either Elba or Hiddleston, but not both, unless the first actor plays just a couple films, perhaps produced quickly in the manner of the LOTR and Harry Potter split-books.

 

If you go period with it, though -- with whichever actor -- there's a particularly helpful aspect to it:  It helps to wash the board clean for starting over after the Craig films.  This could be THE most interesting and helpful aspect of it, production and story-wise.  Then, after a few period films, it helps in starting over again with a (then) present-day Bond again, and a new actor.  With some of these actors you're getting them for only a few films (or two...or one), which stands in favor of them doing a couple or three period Bonds.  Plus, the period technique may well be spent after three films or so anyway.  Another neat aspect of a period film could be using the post-Fleming writer's work.  Some of it is distinctly set in its own day and that day now would be "period" (Colonel Sun), and some of it deliberately in Bond's "classic" 1950s days (Trigger Mortis).

If you go period with Elba in period -- if he's not too old if there were no historical feasibility issues -- then, after that, you'd be looking for someone new.  Hiddleston would be too old by then, Hardy likewise, assuming a passing of 9 to 10 years.  Again, as stated above, it seems you get one or the other unless you pursue the pair-of-quickly-produced period films before going modern again.

 

There are other things which could be done to "wipe the board clean" and set up the next Bond thereafter, too, such as making the Young Bonds in period before staring up a grown Bond series.  I'd have no problem at all with Young Bonds being release in staggered fashion with grown Bonds, though they could not be strictly coordinated since a Young Bond in period becomes mature at a period still much earlier than the present.  Even if your Young Bond were white and the grown Bond a different color, why not ?  It all won't fit anyway in terms of timelines.  Hmm...make the Young Bonds AND the Grown Bonds in period, with Hiddleston as the grown Bond, and have things tie in between the two staggered series.  Could be quite clever.

 

Well, enough rambling ?  The bottom line is:  there are a variety of interesting and entertaining possibilities, and I'll say this: Elba already looks good setting speed records in modern cars of this day, and both Elba and Hiddleston would look terrific behind the windscreen of an early battleship grey Bentley with a blower and a hidden long-barreled pistol !  Further, if you think it's tough casting a Grown Bond, how about trying to cast all the players for Young Bond, when you REALLY want them all to stay with it, not become little monsters, and carry it through ?  In that regard, what the Potter producers accomplished was just amazing.



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 02:17 AM

Looks more like Daniel Craig than the usual typical James Bond look.

I've just started watching "The Night Manager" (with it's extremely Bondian title credits!!), and yes he's blonder than Craig it seems. I can see "HiddlestonNotBond" and "HiddlestonTooBlondeForBond" nut cases oozing out of dark crevices if he got the nod.

 

 

BTW, "The Night Manager" is really good, innit?



#2238 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:22 AM

Well, he does not mind colouring his hair - as Loki he pulls of the black hair pretty well.



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 05:51 PM

Aidan Turner in talks to play Bond (allegedly): http://www.thesun.co...Bond-talks.html



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 07:57 PM

Aidan Turner in talks to play Bond (allegedly): http://www.thesun.co...Bond-talks.html

I can't take The Sun too seriously, but I do think Aidan is a serious contender. I still feel Matthew Goode would be the best choice.matthew-goode.jpg?d=1024


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:43 PM

I have serious doubts about this story, given that it's The Sun, but I do hope that at least this means that we're closing to a resolution to the MGM distributor negotiations and getting near the start of the search for Bond #7.



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 09:44 PM

Wikipedia tells me that Turner is 32. If the Bond producers are legitimately considering him, he may be at the perfect age to get one more Craig film before immediately signing Turner and cranking out Bond 26 just two years later. 

 

No need to have another four year gap between Craig and Bond #7. 



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:38 AM

At this point I'm starting to think Craig's time is over, and they're going to recast. 



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:45 AM

At this point I'm starting to think Craig's time is over, and they're going to recast. 

 

That's the most wise direction forward, I think.  



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:38 AM

Well it makes sense to start interviewing prospective actors to replace Craig just in case he does leave. But like Connery in1971, the door is always open for Daniel.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 05:54 AM

If Aidan Turner indeed were considered it would mark a return to the "pretty boy"-era, wouldn´t it?



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:06 AM

Watched a bit on youtube - and he does come across as a viable candidate, very funny in interviews, dark and brooding in "Poldark" and - wow, did not recognize him - goofy in the "Hobbit"-films.

 

Hmm.  Maybe.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:52 AM

I think whoever they choose next, I will not be happy until I watch him in action...



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 09:24 AM

Daniel Craig knows the feeling.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:23 AM

Daniel Craig knows the feeling.

 

Better than most!