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[Surrie]

 

 

 

 

 

Also, Great British Bake Off seems to be self-combusting... maybe Paul Hollywood will be free and looking for work?? 

Another half-baked idea

 

(sorry, couldn't resist it)

 

 

Maybe so, but if the 'dough' is right, I'm sure he would riseeee to the challenge.

 

Sorry.

 

 

You batter stop with these puns.

 

 

Did you say puns or buns?

 

This is getting ridiculous - I mean, that one takes the biscuit.....    

 

 

 

Apparently, we´re in utter need for serious info on who is going to Bond No. 7.

 

 

Solid info. Nothing half-baked...

 

 

Ok, we knead to stop this silliness!

 

 

People getting crusty?

 

Wow, that escalated quickly. 

 

Craig for one more I say. 

[SecretAgentFan]

Could be too crusty and half-baked at the same time.

[Dustin]

Let's look at it from this angle: nothing would stop Craig from giving a statement whether he's back or not. Whatever his decision, it's fairly sure Eon will know about it beforehand, and nothing would stop them from searching (and likely finding) their favourite replacement. So it's really all down to MGM and we could reasonably expect things to move fast once they get a deal signed. Since it's probably a deal mainly centred around Bond that could even be a combined announcement.

That said, the lack of progress on the MGM situation could also lead to a change of watch on their bridge...

[SecretAgentFan]

Sooner or later MGM will need (Bond) money.  

 

I guess rather sooner than later...

[Agent 76]

Do you guys think a press conference or press release regarding this issue, around october/november is something that could happen?

[Dustin]

Anything could happen. That's not to mean that it will, though.

With MGM the situation is somewhat less-than-desirable, and this for some time now. The current shareholders may feel inclined to take a closer look as to why and how it is that the promised results from the management and the actual figures continue to diverge. If that reason can be identified it should be possible to change the setup in a way that allows for a solution to the status quo.

[sharpshooter]

Do you guys think a press conference or press release regarding this issue, around october/november is something that could happen?

I don't know. As far as the cinematic Bond is concerned, I've decided to forget about the whole saga and focus my attention elsewhere. When there's real news I'll be all over it, though.

[DavidJones]

 

Do you guys think a press conference or press release regarding this issue, around october/november is something that could happen?

I don't know. As far as the cinematic Bond is concerned, I've decided to forget about the whole saga and focus my attention elsewhere. When there's real news I'll be all over it, though.

 

 

I think this is the healthiest mindset to have. I tend to think of the series as though it were finished, and any one which comes hereafter as a bonus.

[Mendalla007]

I don't mind seeing Craig back, though his attitude may be a problem. If he is, I hope they keep him around for a couple movies; one to wrap up the SPECTRE plot and one to wrap up Craig's Bond (putting both in the same film might overburden it). That said, I have no idea of whether he will or not and am content to wait for him or someone else who actually knows something to say something.

 

As for post-Craig, we had the secret service team (M, Moneypenny, Q) carry on pretty much the same from Connery through Moore so I'd keep them in place and definitely keep SPECTRE on hand to provide villainy (though I kind of doubt Waltz would stick around if Craig left) though I might shift them into the background for a movie or two (maybe have MI6 believe they were defeated at the end of Craig's tenure) as we get the new Bond broken in, then have him finally discover them still lurking out there.

[S K Y F A L L]

I just realized if Craig were to come back in 2018/2019 he could become the longest serving Bond passing Moore's 12 years. 

[SecretAgentFan]

If Jon Hamm could pull off a British accent successfully...

 

http://www.impawards...neses_ver3.html

[Orion]

He can, I can't remember what it was in, but he did play a role on tv with an English accent and it was good. He's actually the sort of thing I picture when I read the books.

[MajorB]

Didn't Craig or Brosnan even say that if someone did a period Bond film or TV-movie, Hamm would have just the right look for it?

[Dustin]

No idea if one of them ever said it. But it was a fairly often-heard opinion during the Mad Men years, all sorts of people kept bringing up him. Small wonder, given the show's theme and popularity.

[Yellow Pinky]

Personally I'd prefer to see Hamm play a 60s set Matt Helm is a movie as serious as the book series.

[Dustin]

Good call on Matt Helm, that one surely deserves a second chance. But I suspect if it happens it won't be with a 60s setting, that's already a bit passé.

I wonder if Hamm is any good in the action department, can't decide on that from what I've seen up to now.

[Odd Jobbies]

Aw, Dean Martin will always be Helm for me

[Agent 76]

Actually I wouldn't mind watching Jon Hamm playing Jim Phelps in a new Mission Impossible movie franchise.

[Dustin]

I suppose if that old dictum about needing a British/Commonwealth background for the role is still relevant Hamm never had a serious chance to get it, especially with a huge number of British talents still largely off the public radar. But he really makes you wonder; Craig for example had more going against him than just the wrong passport. And look what happened...

[SecretAgentFan]

Hamm, in any event, might also be too old to start now - or whenever the next Bond actually gets made.

[Dustin]

True, that window has likely closed already, probably for Fassbender too if they don't get started soon.

[SecretAgentFan]

On the other hand - is this way of thinking appropriate or necessary for Bond?

 

Or have we just been conditioned by Hollywood to demand that any hero must be young, young, young?

 

I never thought that way when I was young, strangely.  Back then, Sir Roger was Bond and I never asked myself: shouldn´t Bond be younger?  When I watched the Connery-Bonds I even thought that Connery was older in DR.NO than Moore when he started in LALD.

 

Would it really be impossible to have a Bond start in his 40´s and continue for, well, these days only three more films?

 

In fact, I would not want to see a Bond film with the main actor in his 20´s.  James Bond, for me, is an older man, mature and experienced.

[univex]

Hear, hear!

 

No more young Bond, or rookie Bond,...

Pierce was 42 in GE, wasn´t he? 40ish seems like the right age for it.

[Agent 76]

Hear, hear!
 
No more young Bond, or rookie Bond,...
Pierce was 42 in GE, wasn´t he? 40ish seems like the right age for it.

Yes, 40's seems like a good choice. Pierce looked great in Goldeneye. In DAD he should've had longer hair also.

[Dustin]

Indeed, when I heard Dalton muse in TLD that hopefully M will kick him for not killing the girl with the rifle I initially thought he looked a little bit too young to be this bitter about his job. And with Brosnan I felt he was still a lot younger than 40 in GE. In the later films he looked roughly his age. But I wouldn't have replaced him just for that after DAD.

That said, I suppose when you play the role with a lot of physicality you have to come across convincing in it. Of course, the role always has its tough parts, but seldom to the extent it has shown recently. Craig's Bond was repeatedly depicted as overpowering two or three armed professionals, which is quite a ludicrous staple of present day action cinema. It's a cheap cop out for the script and thrown at us so often now we don't even question it - as long as the guy doing it just looks bulky and strong enough. But compare to this the way Bond was depicted in GF or OHMSS where he gets repeatedly beaten up and subdued - and ultimately survives on his wits and ability to take abuse as well as dish it out. That spirit should be their aim and it would certainly also work with a middle aged actor.

[SecretAgentFan]

Yes, thank you for pointing at those examples.

 

I also hate it when in "modern action cinema" people are punching each other again and again while they should already suffer from extreme injuries.  Instead those sequences go on and on, and those involved seem to be immune to any pain.

 

That´s why CR worked so well in the stairway fight scene and its aftermath.  And that´s why I enjoyed the fight in the jellyfish-sequence in SKYFALL - it was short and believable.

 

Again, Bond is not a superhero.  Nor should he be portrayed as the muscle man who spends all his time at the gym. 

[Odd Jobbies]

I just want the right actor, young or old is secondary - they can write for his age.

 

Ideally i'd like the right actor to be in their early 30s so we get a good run. But that's something for casting agents to cast their nets far and wide for, since those that a known to us are too well known and those that are well known but have the chops to deal with that are around early 40s.

 

It's a shame if we get another 40s actor whose only good for a few movies, but top priority is having an actor with the chops to fill Craig's shoes.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´d rather have an actor who is believable as an experienced mature agent and can only do two or three films instead of a young actor who could go on doing more but who has to be set up in a re-boot as a rookie agent.

 

In other words: in a time in which Bond films only come along every three years I do not really need one actor to stay on for at least five films.

 

The Dalton era is probably better because he did not continue.

[tdalton]

Given the current process by which EON goes about making the films, I don't want to see them cast a 40+ actor in the role for his first film.  The tenures for these actors are already too short (in terms of the number of films made, anyway), and purposefully seeing that the next actor has a short run of only 2-3 films would not be doing the franchise the service that it deserves.

 

It would be best to find the right guy in his 30s and not address the change in actor much in the same way the transition from Moore to Dalton was handled.  Sure, change the tone of the films to suit the new guy, but narratively there's no need to address it.

[DavidJones]

The next actor will have to be 38 or so. By the time he has made three films, he will be 47.