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Chameleon Actor Michael Sheen For Bond's Moriarty?


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#91 DR76

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:33 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them.

Don't watch it then. I'm sure you have some interesting pørn to entertain you.
And incidentally, Wilson and Broccoli don't seem to have mentioned anything about bringing back Blofeld, it's purely fan speculation.




Thank you for the advice. I won't watch it. I refuse to waste my time watching a movie with a character that should have remained in the past.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:34 PM

Fairy Nuff - that's that settled then. :tdown: B)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:47 PM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.


and if Sheen is cast as the villian it sure as heck ain't Blofeld

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:31 PM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.


and if Sheen is cast as the villian it sure as heck ain't Blofeld


thats because this is a rumor that more people would not mind being true

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:42 PM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.


and if Sheen is cast as the villian it sure as heck ain't Blofeld


thats because this is a rumor that more people would not mind being true


I think it's a great idea but I'm not losing sleep over it if it will not come to fruition either. B)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:45 PM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.


and if Sheen is cast as the villian it sure as heck ain't Blofeld


thats because this is a rumor that more people would not mind being true

ah like when the sun reported bond 22 was Risico. People want it to be true so they'll believe it's true.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 01:26 AM

i dont think anybody believes that it is true. it is just a rumor that is more appealing and has people speculating about what kind of role he could play and if he were to play blofeld how it would be.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 02:57 AM

hmm perhaps it could work as again a villian not as blofeld.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:47 AM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.

I'm still fascinated by your pre production scheduling prophecies. They are not getting any more rooted in reality....



Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.

Sadly the actor Ulrich Mühe died not long after the film had been wowing the world.

I would recommend anyone with a love of espionage films and even cinema in general to watch THE LIVES OF OTHERS one day.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:22 AM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.

I'm still fascinated by your pre production scheduling prophecies. They are not getting any more rooted in reality....



Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.

Sadly the actor Ulrich Mühe died not long after the film had been wowing the world.

I would recommend anyone with a love of espionage films and even cinema in general to watch THE LIVES OF OTHERS one day.


I'll second that a truly powerful and beautifully made film, My Wife has said to me she just about sick of Hollywood because they rarely make films that don't insult your intelligence and gets much more satisfaction from European cinema, this film defines that.

Everyone should see it without a doubt.

#101 Vauxhall

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 07:01 PM

Echoing the above sentiments, THE LIVES OF OTHERS is truly excellent.

On the subject of Michael Sheen, I would always welcome him to the Bond franchise; I think he is a sorely underrated actor. I am, however, less keen on the idea of Blofeld returning.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 07:17 PM

Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.

Sadly the actor Ulrich Mühe died not long after the film had been wowing the world.

I would recommend anyone with a love of espionage films and even cinema in general to watch THE LIVES OF OTHERS one day.


Thanks for the update,so sad an excellent performance in an excellent film.I came across 'The Lives of Others' by the Blockbuster-ex rental bargain bin..4 for £10..& I have watched this film 3 times now

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:15 PM

Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.

Sadly the actor Ulrich Mühe died not long after the film had been wowing the world.

I would recommend anyone with a love of espionage films and even cinema in general to watch THE LIVES OF OTHERS one day.


Thanks for the update,so sad an excellent performance in an excellent film.I came across 'The Lives of Others' by the Blockbuster-ex rental bargain bin..4 for £10..& I have watched this film 3 times now


I shall look out for that. B)
Another great film is the b/w 1966 "The Deadly Affair" with James Mason. From the Le Carre novel and directed by Sidney Lumet. Mason plays Charles Dobbs (instead of George Smiley because Paramount had rights to the Smiley name).
If you have the chance, look it up. Wonderfully atmospheric and to me, really encompasses the air of political mistrurst in 1960's Britain.
Of course also helped by "pre-fogging" (pre-exposing colour film)used for the first time on this film. (I got that info off IMDB!)
Adds so much to it.
Brilliant!

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:35 PM

Don't want to take this off topic, but doesn't the McClory estate still own the rights to SPECTRE et al? In which case, the Sheen-as-Blofeld debate is somewhat premature.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:52 PM

Don't want to take this off topic, but doesn't the McClory estate still own the rights to SPECTRE et al? In which case, the Sheen-as-Blofeld debate is somewhat premature.

I think your absolutely right,besides Blofeld was a 1960's typecast villian.Todays villians need to have a foot in religion & politics to be truely credible...don't recall Blofeld being either!

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:02 PM

wow the ridcuklous olsen twins rumour (that came about this time 2 years ago) didn't get this much traffic this is a fake rumour We won't know casting till at least 3 months from now if not later.

I'm still fascinated by your pre production scheduling prophecies. They are not getting any more rooted in reality....



Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.

Sadly the actor Ulrich Mühe died not long after the film had been wowing the world.

I would recommend anyone with a love of espionage films and even cinema in general to watch THE LIVES OF OTHERS one day.


It's more routed in reality then many of the rumour of bond 23 we have gotten.

Now I'm sure you know more then me which is why right now if you say "Bond 23 is going to the property of a lady bet money on it" I'll truely belive you and say ok bond 23 is the property of a lady.

I do think it will take at least 3 months to write out the script and get pre production in motion I honestly belive a spring 2011 release date is what we're looking at. What am i basing this on instinct. Could i be wrong sure it could be 2010 it could be 2011 it could be whenver. I don't however See casting happening this early.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:05 PM

Don't want to take this off topic, but doesn't the McClory estate still own the rights to SPECTRE et al? In which case, the Sheen-as-Blofeld debate is somewhat premature.

I think your absolutely right,besides Blofeld was a 1960's typecast villian.Todays villians need to have a foot in religion & politics to be truely credible...don't recall Blofeld being either!


First off, who says a villain has to be somehow involved in religion or politics to be credible? There are plenty of other viable threats that, honestly, I would buy into before I bought into an enemy being deeply rooted in a nation's political system. Blofeld's plot in OHMSS still holds up as fairly contemporary as well. Biochemical warfare. Sure, it's not as big a threat as it was decades ago, but it's still more contemporary than, say, Moonraker (the novel). You can also tweak Blofeld to better suit modern audiences if you really feel he needs tweaking. Personally, though, I say keep Blofeld and SPECTRE out of the equation.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:10 PM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:13 PM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:26 PM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?


No idea why. Maybe Craig would like it himself? Who knows?
All I know is, if Blofeld is brought back, I wouldn't mind it but not losing any sleep whether he does or not. B)

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:02 PM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?


No idea why. Maybe Craig would like it himself? Who knows?
All I know is, if Blofeld is brought back, I wouldn't mind it but not losing any sleep whether he does or not. B)


I wouldn't boycott the film or anything if they returned Blofeld, I just think it would be smarter for the series to stand on its own two feet instead of falling back on the old.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:03 AM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?


No idea why. Maybe Craig would like it himself? Who knows?
All I know is, if Blofeld is brought back, I wouldn't mind it but not losing any sleep whether he does or not. B)


I wouldn't boycott the film or anything if they returned Blofeld, I just think it would be smarter for the series to stand on its own two feet instead of falling back on the old.


It's the way you look at it. Some people may think its "falling back on the old", I look at it as a chance to reinvent Blofeld as a current villian with current world domination themes. They could really run with it instead of Blofeld remaining, in my mind, some 1960's cat stroking, Mandarin collar wearing Pleasance character. That was then and it worked somewhat, this is now.
Some things are best left in the past, not Blofeld in my mind. They could do so much with him.
Blofeld was too much of a main theme in many past films to leave him there.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:14 AM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?


No idea why. Maybe Craig would like it himself? Who knows?
All I know is, if Blofeld is brought back, I wouldn't mind it but not losing any sleep whether he does or not. B)


I wouldn't boycott the film or anything if they returned Blofeld, I just think it would be smarter for the series to stand on its own two feet instead of falling back on the old.


It's the way you look at it. Some people may think its "falling back on the old", I look at it as a chance to reinvent Blofeld as a current villian with current world domination themes. They could really run with it instead of Blofeld remaining, in my mind, some 1960's cat stroking, Mandarin collar wearing Pleasance character. That was then and it worked somewhat, this is now.
Some things are best left in the past, not Blofeld in my mind. They could do so much with him.
Blofeld was too much of a main theme in many past films to leave him there.


I think if Blofeld's returning they should go more for a Telly Savalas/OHMSS style Blofeld or go for a FRWL/TB style Blofeld, at least for now. Introduce the character character later, like they did with Blofeld.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:16 AM

I feel somewhere in Craig's tenure as Bond he would want to meet and thwart Blofeld.


I fail to see why it would have to be Blofeld. Why not just make a Blofeld-esque head of Quantum?


No idea why. Maybe Craig would like it himself? Who knows?
All I know is, if Blofeld is brought back, I wouldn't mind it but not losing any sleep whether he does or not. B)


I wouldn't boycott the film or anything if they returned Blofeld, I just think it would be smarter for the series to stand on its own two feet instead of falling back on the old.


It's the way you look at it. Some people may think its "falling back on the old", I look at it as a chance to reinvent Blofeld as a current villian with current world domination themes. They could really run with it instead of Blofeld remaining, in my mind, some 1960's cat stroking, Mandarin collar wearing Pleasance character. That was then and it worked somewhat, this is now.
Some things are best left in the past, not Blofeld in my mind. They could do so much with him.
Blofeld was too much of a main theme in many past films to leave him there.


I think if Blofeld's returning they should go more for a Telly Savalas/OHMSS style Blofeld or go for a FRWL/TB style Blofeld, at least for now. Introduce the character character later, like they did with Blofeld.


If they are going to re-introduce him it will be with a bang I think.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:46 AM

how awesome would it be if bond 23 did have blofeld and christopher nolan was directing? he reintroduces the greatest batman villain and then the greatest bond villain

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:53 AM

The idea that Michael Sheen is in talks to play Blofeld in Bond 23 is laughable considering they have only just begun writing the screenplay. Also, EON do not own the right to Blofeld and SPECTRE (Kevin McClory's estate do).

However, what is interesting about this rumour is that it once again suggests that there is indeed a rival Bond movie, called Blofeld, in production produced by the enigmatic Tom O'Casey.

Reports surfaced on this site several months ago:
http://debrief.comma...showtopic=53048

Why none of these rumours have been covered on the main page is a mystery to me. Anyway, this rumour about Michael Sheen suggests that pre-production is now in the casting stages (or at the very least the parties behind rumours of a movie called "Blofeld" are now claiming to be casting).

But adding more substance to these rumours are the plans of Penguin books to release a compilation of Ian Fleming's trilogy of Blofeld novels.

So, why so little discussion about these rumours in these forums and on the main page? Surely the prospect of two rival Bond films appearing in 2011 should create much speculation and debate!

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:55 AM

Well of course Michael Sheen rumors are bull. But they're going to spread like wildfire when you announce Peter Morgan. Michael Sheen has been involved with quite a lot of Morgan's projects.

Oh joy, another Thunderball remake, by the looks of it. If that ever happens I'm sure as hell not seeing it. Never Say Never Again was enough, thank you.

Tom O'Casey says, without question, "This will be the biggest, greatest and most spectacular Bond event of all time. We are pulling out all the 'fantasy elements' that make a great 'James Bond' epic. Underwater planes. The Bermuda Triangle. Area 51. Outer Space. James Bond 007 never had it so good. And, when he drinks his 'Dom Perignom '74, with two beautiful blondes on his arm, he will be dressed meticulously in suits designed by O'Casey. That's worth the price of a movie ticket, right there."


So it's the Brosnan era all over again?

Edited by Tybre, 19 June 2009 - 04:06 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:09 PM

On BBC Radio Five Live's Wittertainment today, Marc Kermode voiced his approval of the idea of Michael Sheen as Blofeld. Therefore, I am now against the suggestion.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:25 PM

On BBC Radio Five Live's Wittertainment today, Marc Kermode voiced his approval of the idea of Michael Sheen as Blofeld. Therefore, I am now against the suggestion.

Just like that, eh? Granted, I can see why you might hold it against Kermode, but that's still no reason to count the idea out.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:29 PM

On BBC Radio Five Live's Wittertainment today, Marc Kermode voiced his approval of the idea of Michael Sheen as Blofeld. Therefore, I am now against the suggestion.

Just like that, eh? Granted, I can see why you might hold it against Kermode, but that's still no reason to count the idea out.

Tongue was in cheek.

My stance remains that I would love Sheen in a Bond film but am against Blofeld returning.