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#61 Zorin Industries

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 09:15 AM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 09:42 AM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.


Agreed about the Dr. Evil/cat part. However, Donald Pleasence was made bald, (he did have some hair in real life) and given a scar simply to make him more sinister to the audience because, without those additions, he wouldn`t have been so menacing.

Personally I don`t think Sheen, just as himself, (with no make up etc) would be able to bring enough to the table as Blofeld. Just my opinion.

Now, if they (EON) do want to go down the THUNDERBALL novel route, then someone like Benzali, (with his bald head and heavy set features) would, I think, be perfect.

I`ve always believed the Bond villians need to be of equal stature to Bond himself. Larger than life and played by actors who can fill that requirement. Robert Shaw, Gert Frobe, Adolfo Celi, etc. etc.

I just don`t see it with Sheen.

If he is cast in the Blofeld role, and does an excellent job, I`ll be the first to admit I was wrong.

But casting somebody just because he`s flavour of the month at the moment, (The Damned United, Frost/Nixon) shouldn`t be the criteria to getting the right actor in the right part. EON did that with Denise Richards and Robert Carlyle, (hot after STARSHIP TROOPERS and TRAINSPOTTING respectively) and with Richards in particular, we all know what happened there.

Sometimes a marquee name doesn`t always work.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 09:54 AM

Rebooting classic roles with younger ("gritty") actors is a Hollywood cliché I am sick and tired of. I don't care if the new Blofeld can fight, run and drive sportscars as good as Bond himself. Blofeld is not the dark side of Bond, he is the dark side of "M". A criminal genius. We need an actor who can put some gravity into that role (both mentally and physically).

Of course, this will never happen. The types of villains I want to see are mainly used as throwaway story-gimmicks these days ("Mr White").

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 09:58 AM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.


Agreed about the Dr. Evil/cat part. However, Donald Pleasence was made bald, (he did have some hair in real life) and given a scar simply to make him more sinister to the audience because, without those additions, he wouldn`t have been so menacing.

Personally I don`t think Sheen, just as himself, (with no make up etc) would be able to bring enough to the table as Blofeld. Just my opinion.

Now, if they (EON) do want to go down the THUNDERBALL novel route, then someone like Benzali, (with his bald head and heavy set features) would, I think, be perfect.

I`ve always believed the Bond villians need to be of equal stature to Bond himself. Larger than life and played by actors who can fill that requirement. Robert Shaw, Gert Frobe, Adolfo Celi, etc. etc.

I just don`t see it with Sheen.

If he is cast in the Blofeld role, and does an excellent job, I`ll be the first to admit I was wrong.

But casting somebody just because he`s flavour of the month at the moment, (The Damned United, Frost/Nixon) shouldn`t be the criteria to getting the right actor in the right part. EON did that with Denise Richards and Robert Carlyle, (hot after STARSHIP TROOPERS and TRAINSPOTTING respectively) and with Richards in particular, we all know what happened there.

Sometimes a marquee name doesn`t always work.

But Michael Sheen is not a marquee name. His films don't make good money. But that is not the point of why they are made.

And I don't think any previous incarnation of BLOFELD based on any book or film would be where a reimagined BLOFELD would ever start from. Michael Sheen would not be cast in anything because he is flavour of the month. Since when did THE DAMNED UNITED become some "flavour of the month" release? Did you see it the time?

It doesn't work like that. He would be cast in a Bond film because he is a superb and nuanced actor who makes the mundane interesting. Caryle was cast in 1999 because - again - he was a good British actor. Denise Richards may have been the pin-up Valley Girl of the day, but she was allegedly not Eon's first choice (say no more).

And a Bond villain becomes larger than life because of the actor playing him. All of the classic Bond villains have worked because of who plays them. And an actor being "bald" is not really the a criteria of casting someone like a BLOFELD or indeed any other follicly challenged villain. I hate to burst your bubble but Gene LEX LUTHOR Hackman was not bald when he shot SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. Being "bald" is akin to saying such and such actor should be Bond because he wore a suit in that famous film. It requires a little more than that.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:50 AM

A talented actor like Sheen can work in ANY type of villainous role in a Bond film if the tone and script of the piece complements his ability. Robert Carlyle was saddled with a poor script in TWINE and as a result you got a performance and character that looked like a missed opportunity.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:58 AM

He reminds me too much of Mathieu Almaric in size. I see more of a villain, who is threatening also in looks.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:08 AM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.


Agreed about the Dr. Evil/cat part. However, Donald Pleasence was made bald, (he did have some hair in real life) and given a scar simply to make him more sinister to the audience because, without those additions, he wouldn`t have been so menacing.

Personally I don`t think Sheen, just as himself, (with no make up etc) would be able to bring enough to the table as Blofeld. Just my opinion.

Now, if they (EON) do want to go down the THUNDERBALL novel route, then someone like Benzali, (with his bald head and heavy set features) would, I think, be perfect.

I`ve always believed the Bond villians need to be of equal stature to Bond himself. Larger than life and played by actors who can fill that requirement. Robert Shaw, Gert Frobe, Adolfo Celi, etc. etc.

I just don`t see it with Sheen.

If he is cast in the Blofeld role, and does an excellent job, I`ll be the first to admit I was wrong.

But casting somebody just because he`s flavour of the month at the moment, (The Damned United, Frost/Nixon) shouldn`t be the criteria to getting the right actor in the right part. EON did that with Denise Richards and Robert Carlyle, (hot after STARSHIP TROOPERS and TRAINSPOTTING respectively) and with Richards in particular, we all know what happened there.

Sometimes a marquee name doesn`t always work.

But Michael Sheen is not a marquee name. His films don't make good money. But that is not the point of why they are made.

But three films of his, (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED) have, due to his excellent acting, made him a name of some sort. Granted, he`s not a marquee name, but many cinemagoers would already know of him, should he be cast in Bond 23 next year. Mads Mikkelsen wasn`t a name internationally, (though he was popular in his native Denmark) but he got the role of Le Chiffre and made it his own, because there weren`t any pre conceived ideas about him and how he would play the role. I don`t think that would be the case with Sheen because, playing Blofeld, we the Bond fans will already have our own take on how the character should be portrayed, based on previous films and the novels. Many of the general Bond cinemagoers would know of Blofeld via the films, as well.

And I don't think any previous incarnation of BLOFELD based on any book or film would be where a reimagined BLOFELD would ever start from. Michael Sheen would not be cast in anything because he is flavour of the month. Since when did THE DAMNED UNITED become some "flavour of the month" release? Did you see it the time?

Sorry, but at the moment he is flavour of the month, because two of the films we have mentioned have recently come out on DVD and at the cinema, and he`s been critically acclaimed for them both. That make him known now.

It doesn't work like that. He would be cast in a Bond film because he is a superb and nuanced actor who makes the mundane interesting. Caryle was cast in 1999 because - again - he was a good British actor. Denise Richards may have been the pin-up Valley Girl of the day, but she was allegedly not Eon's first choice (say no more).

But you cannot deny that both Carlyle and Richards had been cast after the two films I mentioned had been financial successes. And, both Carlyle and Richards were the standouts in each film. Carlyle for his acting and Richards for her, well, we all know what that was.

It`s happened before; Honor Blackman in GF, (from the Avengers), ditto Diana Rigg, are just two instances where they`re popularity at the time was used to cast them in Bond girl roles. Sometimes casting directors cast someone simply because of that, not necessarily because they are great actors. If that was the case, Denise Richards wouldn`t have gotten the role, no matter how desperate they (EON) might have been.

And a Bond villain becomes larger than life because of the actor playing him. All of the classic Bond villains have worked because of who plays them.

Didn`t I say that in my previous post? Fleming created these larger than life villians, and EON`S casting directors did their best to find the right actor to fill that particular role. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they didn`t.

And an actor being "bald" is not really the a criteria of casting someone like a BLOFELD or indeed any other follicly challenged villain. I hate to burst your bubble but Gene LEX LUTHOR Hackman was not bald when he shot SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. Being "bald" is akin to saying such and such actor should be Bond because he wore a suit in that famous film. It requires a little more than that.


I agree, it should require more than that. By this is EON. They`ll probably play it safe and have Blofeld bald, as they had previously.

And you`re not bursting my bubble because actually LUTHOR in the Superman movie was bald, as was seen in the last scene in the prison, because he, (Hackman) removes his wig to show he is bald.

I just think that a character like Blofeld should be played by an actor who is larger than life, (both theatrically and in his build). That is why I would prefer someone like Benzali, (bald or not) as he has that nastiness and presence.

So far, in his acting career, Sheen has been cast to play the roles of real life people; Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, David Frost and Brian Clough. He has made a great job of impersonating these people but a character like Blofeld is something else completely.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:33 AM

Although it sounds improbable, it might just happen. And the more I think about, the more I think it would work..

Mind you, if this forum was going from when the Bond films first started, we'd have probably laughed at the proposal of the weedy fella with the failing eyesight from the Great Escape playing Blofeld, Scaramanga being portrayed by the bloke who was Dracula, the camp, pouting Louis Jourdan as the main villain in Octopussy and TWINE featuring a bad guy best known, in movie terms, for playing a stripping unemployed miner....

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:45 AM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.


Agreed about the Dr. Evil/cat part. However, Donald Pleasence was made bald, (he did have some hair in real life) and given a scar simply to make him more sinister to the audience because, without those additions, he wouldn`t have been so menacing.

And he needed to look completely different from Jan Urich who originally played BLOFELD in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

Personally I don`t think Sheen, just as himself, (with no make up etc) would be able to bring enough to the table as Blofeld. Just my opinion.

You've missed my point. Have you actually seen Michael Sheen in anything?

Now, if they (EON) do want to go down the THUNDERBALL novel route, then someone like Benzali, (with his bald head and heavy set features) would, I think, be perfect.

You've missed my point.

I`ve always believed the Bond villians need to be of equal stature to Bond himself. Larger than life and played by actors who can fill that requirement. Robert Shaw, Gert Frobe, Adolfo Celi, etc. etc.

I just don`t see it with Sheen.

If he is cast in the Blofeld role, and does an excellent job, I`ll be the first to admit I was wrong.

But casting somebody just because he`s flavour of the month at the moment, (The Damned United, Frost/Nixon) shouldn`t be the criteria to getting the right actor in the right part. EON did that with Denise Richards and Robert Carlyle, (hot after STARSHIP TROOPERS and TRAINSPOTTING respectively) and with Richards in particular, we all know what happened there.

Sometimes a marquee name doesn`t always work.

But Michael Sheen is not a marquee name. His films don't make good money. But that is not the point of why they are made.

But three films of his, (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED) have, due to his excellent acting, made him a name of some sort. Granted, he`s not a marquee name, but many cinemagoers would already know of him, should he be cast in Bond 23 next year. Mads Mikkelsen wasn`t a name internationally, ....

No - he wasn't a name on CBN or Yahoo News. There is a difference.

...(though he was popular in his native Denmark) but he got the role of Le Chiffre and made it his own, because there weren`t any pre conceived ideas about him and how he would play the role. I don`t think that would be the case with Sheen because, playing Blofeld, we the Bond fans will already have our own take on how the character should be portrayed, based on previous films and the novels.

So - in that respect, there doesn't need to be BOND, MONEYPENNY, Q, M, TANNER and the CHIEF OF STAFF in any Bond film ever again....?

Many of the general Bond cinemagoers would know of Blofeld via the films, as well.


And I don't think any previous incarnation of BLOFELD based on any book or film would be where a reimagined BLOFELD would ever start from. Michael Sheen would not be cast in anything because he is flavour of the month. Since when did THE DAMNED UNITED become some "flavour of the month" release? Did you see it the time?

Sorry, but at the moment he is flavour of the month, because two of the films we have mentioned have recently come out on DVD and at the cinema, and he`s been critically acclaimed for them both. That make him known now.

You've missed my point. Casting directors do not cast based on what has come out at the cinemas in the last few months. They work a little further in advance than that. Any new talent discovered by the public is usually VERY familiar to casting directors.

It doesn't work like that. He would be cast in a Bond film because he is a superb and nuanced actor who makes the mundane interesting. Caryle was cast in 1999 because - again - he was a good British actor. Denise Richards may have been the pin-up Valley Girl of the day, but she was allegedly not Eon's first choice (say no more).

But you cannot deny that both Carlyle and Richards had been cast after the two films I mentioned had been financial successes. And, both Carlyle and Richards were the standouts in each film. Carlyle for his acting and Richards for her, well, we all know what that was.

It`s happened before; Honor Blackman in GF, (from the Avengers), ditto Diana Rigg, are just two instances where they`re popularity at the time was used to cast them in Bond girl roles.

Diana Rigg was not only cast via THE AVENGERS but because she was a renowned RSC actress who Eon wanted to help support and 'lift' whichever actor was to play 007.

Sometimes casting directors cast someone simply because of that, not necessarily because they are great actors. If that was the case, Denise Richards wouldn`t have gotten the role, no matter how desperate they (EON) might have been.


And a Bond villain becomes larger than life because of the actor playing him. All of the classic Bond villains have worked because of who plays them.

Didn`t I say that in my previous post? Fleming created these larger than life villians, and EON`S casting directors did their best to find the right actor to fill that particular role. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they didn`t.


Again, you've missed my point.

And an actor being "bald" is not really the a criteria of casting someone like a BLOFELD or indeed any other follicly challenged villain. I hate to burst your bubble but Gene LEX LUTHOR Hackman was not bald when he shot SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. Being "bald" is akin to saying such and such actor should be Bond because he wore a suit in that famous film. It requires a little more than that.


I agree, it should require more than that. By this is EON. They`ll probably play it safe and have Blofeld bald, as they had previously.


And you`re not bursting my bubble because actually LUTHOR in the Superman movie was bald, as was seen in the last scene in the prison, because he, (Hackman) removes his wig to show he is bald.

You've missed my point. Again.

I just think that a character like Blofeld should be played by an actor who is larger than life, (both theatrically and in his build). That is why I would prefer someone like Benzali, (bald or not) as he has that nastiness and presence.

You've missed my point.

So far, in his acting career, Sheen has been cast to play the roles of real life people; Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, David Frost and Brian Clough. He has made a great job of impersonating these people but a character like Blofeld is something else completely.


Yes, a character like BLOFELD is a walk in the park for Michael Sheen. Which is why he could bring something to that role (IF that role was to ever exist again onscreen).

ACtually "so far in his acting career" Michael Sheen has done a hell of a lot more than impersonating famous figures. And that is what casting directors and producers realise rather than some CV gleaned from the pages of Ain't It Cool News.

Can I refer you to other films that Yahoo News or Rotten Tomatoes doesn't list and titles and stage productions which got him noticed by casting directors the world over (eg. HEARTLANDS, DIRTY FILTHY LOVE, HENRY IV....?).


No-one is cast in a Bond film because they are "flavour of the month". But as Daniel Benzali is bald then I don't know why he hasn't been cast already. My mistake.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:21 PM

Is the question one of whether Anactor can bring Something to a role? 'Cos if that's it, then yeah I s'pose so.

The rest of this is as redundant as a fish in need of a bike. Replace Sheen with any other name and this is the same thread all over again.

Indeed, looking at the results of these speculation threads in the past, whereby of-the-moment names or spy-film-actor/actress/director/musician is inspirationally suggested for Bond duties, it is a wonder such exuberance and energies can be found for them at all.

Indeed considering only the last two films and their talent, the only sure thing that can be guaranteed is that no one will guess even from which country the unknown talent will come. Never mind a name.

So that said, Sheen would undoubtedly bring untold surprises to any role; including Blofeld and including Jemima Puddle Duck.

Next name/thread.

Personally, I wish always to be introduced to new names through the Bond series.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 01:12 PM

As for Sheen, as good an actor as he is, I don`t think he would be able to carry Blofeld off credibly. Like Charles Gray before him, I think he`s too slight and not menacing enough.

Personally I`d go for Daniel Benzali, (who was in AVTAK) as Blofeld. He was excellent a while back in Murder One, and with his bald head and heavy set figure, he`d be perfect for Blofeld IMO.

Thoughts?

Michael Sheen IS a good actor. Good actors can play anything and bring new life to it. And being a bald, heavy set man is sort of missing the point of how a new BLOFELD would be reintroduced (if that was the path BOND 23 went down - personally I can't see it happening, but Sheen is one of the few to make it work). Why do people assume he would still be the cat loving baldy we have come to laugh at via DR EVIL.


Agreed about the Dr. Evil/cat part. However, Donald Pleasence was made bald, (he did have some hair in real life) and given a scar simply to make him more sinister to the audience because, without those additions, he wouldn`t have been so menacing.

And he needed to look completely different from Jan Urich who originally played BLOFELD in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

Personally I don`t think Sheen, just as himself, (with no make up etc) would be able to bring enough to the table as Blofeld. Just my opinion.

You've missed my point. Have you actually seen Michael Sheen in anything?

Now, if they (EON) do want to go down the THUNDERBALL novel route, then someone like Benzali, (with his bald head and heavy set features) would, I think, be perfect.

You've missed my point.

I`ve always believed the Bond villians need to be of equal stature to Bond himself. Larger than life and played by actors who can fill that requirement. Robert Shaw, Gert Frobe, Adolfo Celi, etc. etc.

I just don`t see it with Sheen.

If he is cast in the Blofeld role, and does an excellent job, I`ll be the first to admit I was wrong.

But casting somebody just because he`s flavour of the month at the moment, (The Damned United, Frost/Nixon) shouldn`t be the criteria to getting the right actor in the right part. EON did that with Denise Richards and Robert Carlyle, (hot after STARSHIP TROOPERS and TRAINSPOTTING respectively) and with Richards in particular, we all know what happened there.

Sometimes a marquee name doesn`t always work.

But Michael Sheen is not a marquee name. His films don't make good money. But that is not the point of why they are made.

But three films of his, (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED) have, due to his excellent acting, made him a name of some sort. Granted, he`s not a marquee name, but many cinemagoers would already know of him, should he be cast in Bond 23 next year. Mads Mikkelsen wasn`t a name internationally, ....

No - he wasn't a name on CBN or Yahoo News. There is a difference.

...(though he was popular in his native Denmark) but he got the role of Le Chiffre and made it his own, because there weren`t any pre conceived ideas about him and how he would play the role. I don`t think that would be the case with Sheen because, playing Blofeld, we the Bond fans will already have our own take on how the character should be portrayed, based on previous films and the novels.

So - in that respect, there doesn't need to be BOND, MONEYPENNY, Q, M, TANNER and the CHIEF OF STAFF in any Bond film ever again....?

Many of the general Bond cinemagoers would know of Blofeld via the films, as well.


And I don't think any previous incarnation of BLOFELD based on any book or film would be where a reimagined BLOFELD would ever start from. Michael Sheen would not be cast in anything because he is flavour of the month. Since when did THE DAMNED UNITED become some "flavour of the month" release? Did you see it the time?

Sorry, but at the moment he is flavour of the month, because two of the films we have mentioned have recently come out on DVD and at the cinema, and he`s been critically acclaimed for them both. That make him known now.

You've missed my point. Casting directors do not cast based on what has come out at the cinemas in the last few months. They work a little further in advance than that. Any new talent discovered by the public is usually VERY familiar to casting directors.

It doesn't work like that. He would be cast in a Bond film because he is a superb and nuanced actor who makes the mundane interesting. Caryle was cast in 1999 because - again - he was a good British actor. Denise Richards may have been the pin-up Valley Girl of the day, but she was allegedly not Eon's first choice (say no more).

But you cannot deny that both Carlyle and Richards had been cast after the two films I mentioned had been financial successes. And, both Carlyle and Richards were the standouts in each film. Carlyle for his acting and Richards for her, well, we all know what that was.

It`s happened before; Honor Blackman in GF, (from the Avengers), ditto Diana Rigg, are just two instances where they`re popularity at the time was used to cast them in Bond girl roles.

Diana Rigg was not only cast via THE AVENGERS but because she was a renowned RSC actress who Eon wanted to help support and 'lift' whichever actor was to play 007.

Sometimes casting directors cast someone simply because of that, not necessarily because they are great actors. If that was the case, Denise Richards wouldn`t have gotten the role, no matter how desperate they (EON) might have been.


And a Bond villain becomes larger than life because of the actor playing him. All of the classic Bond villains have worked because of who plays them.

Didn`t I say that in my previous post? Fleming created these larger than life villians, and EON`S casting directors did their best to find the right actor to fill that particular role. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they didn`t.


Again, you've missed my point.

And an actor being "bald" is not really the a criteria of casting someone like a BLOFELD or indeed any other follicly challenged villain. I hate to burst your bubble but Gene LEX LUTHOR Hackman was not bald when he shot SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. Being "bald" is akin to saying such and such actor should be Bond because he wore a suit in that famous film. It requires a little more than that.


I agree, it should require more than that. By this is EON. They`ll probably play it safe and have Blofeld bald, as they had previously.


And you`re not bursting my bubble because actually LUTHOR in the Superman movie was bald, as was seen in the last scene in the prison, because he, (Hackman) removes his wig to show he is bald.

You've missed my point. Again.

I just think that a character like Blofeld should be played by an actor who is larger than life, (both theatrically and in his build). That is why I would prefer someone like Benzali, (bald or not) as he has that nastiness and presence.

You've missed my point.

So far, in his acting career, Sheen has been cast to play the roles of real life people; Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, David Frost and Brian Clough. He has made a great job of impersonating these people but a character like Blofeld is something else completely.


Yes, a character like BLOFELD is a walk in the park for Michael Sheen. Which is why he could bring something to that role (IF that role was to ever exist again onscreen).

ACtually "so far in his acting career" Michael Sheen has done a hell of a lot more than impersonating famous figures. And that is what casting directors and producers realise rather than some CV gleaned from the pages of Ain't It Cool News.

Can I refer you to other films that Yahoo News or Rotten Tomatoes doesn't list and titles and stage productions which got him noticed by casting directors the world over (eg. HEARTLANDS, DIRTY FILTHY LOVE, HENRY IV....?).


No-one is cast in a Bond film because they are "flavour of the month". But as Daniel Benzali is bald then I don't know why he hasn't been cast already. My mistake.


Zorin, it`s plain you would like to see Sheen as Blofeld, (or cast in any part in Bond 23) which is fair enough. You say he could pull off playing Blofeld, I don`t think he could, (in whichever guise EON decide to put him in). We`ll just have to agree to differ.

And yes, I have seen all those films mentioned that Sheen is in, including his brilliant portrayal of Kenneth Williams. I know he is a very good actor, but I still firmly believe that his name is only currently "in the frame" because his profile has been elevated so highly in the last few months, and that is solely down to his great performances in FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED UNITED. You disagree about that. Fine.

And on your last point, I don`t know if Daniel Benzali is actually bald in real life. In AVTAK he had hair. In Murder One he didn`t. Having said that, seeing him in Murder One, and knowing how good an actor he was in that programme, I firmly believe his Murder One guise would, for me, work better in portraying Blofeld than Sheen would be, (whether with hair/without hair or any other type of make-up/prosthetics).

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 01:43 PM

Zorin, it`s plain you would like to see Sheen as Blofeld, (or cast in any part in Bond 23) which is fair enough. You say he could pull off playing Blofeld, I don`t think he could, (in whichever guise EON decide to put him in). We`ll just have to agree to differ.

And yes, I have seen all those films mentioned that Sheen is in, including his brilliant portrayal of Kenneth Williams. I know he is a very good actor, but I still firmly believe that his name is only currently "in the frame" because his profile has been elevated so highly in the last few months, and that is solely down to his great performances in FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED UNITED. You disagree about that. Fine.

And on your last point, I don`t know if Daniel Benzali is actually bald in real life. In AVTAK he had hair. In Murder One he didn`t. Having said that, seeing him in Murder One, and knowing how good an actor he was in that programme, I firmly believe his Murder One guise would, for me, work better in portraying Blofeld than Sheen would be, (whether with hair/without hair or any other type of make-up/prosthetics).


Just a curio query of mine own... have you ever cast a film? And Michael Sheen is not in the frame or indeed any frame. This is an unsubtantiated rumour that I am just running with to see if there is a debate about a BLOFELD return and whether Sheen could - VERY hypothetically - play him. Eon's radar when it comes to acting talent is based on a little more than what is "doing the rounds on DVD" in the last two months.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:42 PM

Zorin, it`s plain you would like to see Sheen as Blofeld, (or cast in any part in Bond 23) which is fair enough. You say he could pull off playing Blofeld, I don`t think he could, (in whichever guise EON decide to put him in). We`ll just have to agree to differ.

And yes, I have seen all those films mentioned that Sheen is in, including his brilliant portrayal of Kenneth Williams. I know he is a very good actor, but I still firmly believe that his name is only currently "in the frame" because his profile has been elevated so highly in the last few months, and that is solely down to his great performances in FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED UNITED. You disagree about that. Fine.

And on your last point, I don`t know if Daniel Benzali is actually bald in real life. In AVTAK he had hair. In Murder One he didn`t. Having said that, seeing him in Murder One, and knowing how good an actor he was in that programme, I firmly believe his Murder One guise would, for me, work better in portraying Blofeld than Sheen would be, (whether with hair/without hair or any other type of make-up/prosthetics).


Just a curio query of mine own... have you ever cast a film? And Michael Sheen is not in the frame or indeed any frame. This is an unsubtantiated rumour that I am just running with to see if there is a debate about a BLOFELD return and whether Sheen could - VERY hypothetically - play him. Eon's radar when it comes to acting talent is based on a little more than what is "doing the rounds on DVD" in the last two months.


Zorin, why do you need to get so defensive? You like the idea of Sheen, I don`t. Certainly not in the Blofeld role. And no, I haven`t ever cast a film, but that doesn`t mean that so called casting directors are always spot on with their casting decisions. How many times in Bond films have we, the fans, complained that someone has been so wrong for the part? Many times.

I used the term "in the frame" very loosely, insofar as the newspaper linked Sheen to the role. I think YOU missed my point on that one.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:59 PM

I hope this news is bloody true!

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:12 PM

Eon's radar when it comes to acting talent is based on a little more than what is "doing the rounds on DVD" in the last two months.



I agree. I actually think the fact that Morgan is writing the screenplay, has caused Sheen to appear in the spotlight.

I really do think that this rumour has some form of truth to it, it's almost like a tradition - If Morgan writes something, Sheen is in it.

I've never actually seen so much positive feedback from a mere rumour, on CBn though. B)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:39 PM

Sheen as a villian ok.

But if blofeld comes back the franchise is dead to me(ok maybe not that severe but i'd be as you brits say Bloody Pissed off). There is no logical or smart way to bring blofeld back and besides isn't he owned by mclory's estate.


Nowe if he were to play Jack Spang i'd be happy B)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 04:30 PM

Blofeld*.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:02 PM

I was lead to believe that everything related to Bond was owned by EON now. I don't see much of an issue bringing Blofeld back to the screen. Who is going to file a suit on McClory's behalf at this point?

But the larger picture is the merits of bringing him back. Don't for a second think that Blofeld as used in the films ( the Dr Evil version) would be back. The powers that be would reinvent the character. This I find very appealing.

If a reboot of Batman can bring back the Joker and make him completely different, then Bond can easily do the same. Hell, even the writers of the newest reboot, Star Trek, are open to the possibility of bringing back Khan.

Let's also think of the negative reaction (in some circles of course- I love the film) to Quantum of Solace. It's not "Bond" enough. Too much like Bourne. Every Bond movie is influenced by the previous film. I would bet that the producers are going to make an effort to bring more of the iconic aspects of Bond back. I can't think of many things more iconic than (as the thread's title suggests) Bond's Moriarty. It makes sense.

Edited by Mike00spy, 17 June 2009 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:08 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them. This idea is so B)king unoriginal that it's sad.

Edited by DR76, 17 June 2009 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:10 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them.

Don't watch it then. I'm sure you have some interesting pørn to entertain you.
And incidentally, Wilson and Broccoli don't seem to have mentioned anything about bringing back Blofeld, it's purely fan speculation.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:46 PM

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:53 PM

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 06:37 PM

I think Sheen would do a damn good job as a Bond baddie...

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:46 PM

Zorin, it`s plain you would like to see Sheen as Blofeld, (or cast in any part in Bond 23) which is fair enough. You say he could pull off playing Blofeld, I don`t think he could, (in whichever guise EON decide to put him in). We`ll just have to agree to differ.

And yes, I have seen all those films mentioned that Sheen is in, including his brilliant portrayal of Kenneth Williams. I know he is a very good actor, but I still firmly believe that his name is only currently "in the frame" because his profile has been elevated so highly in the last few months, and that is solely down to his great performances in FROST/NIXON and THE DAMNED UNITED. You disagree about that. Fine.

And on your last point, I don`t know if Daniel Benzali is actually bald in real life. In AVTAK he had hair. In Murder One he didn`t. Having said that, seeing him in Murder One, and knowing how good an actor he was in that programme, I firmly believe his Murder One guise would, for me, work better in portraying Blofeld than Sheen would be, (whether with hair/without hair or any other type of make-up/prosthetics).


Just a curio query of mine own... have you ever cast a film? And Michael Sheen is not in the frame or indeed any frame. This is an unsubtantiated rumour that I am just running with to see if there is a debate about a BLOFELD return and whether Sheen could - VERY hypothetically - play him. Eon's radar when it comes to acting talent is based on a little more than what is "doing the rounds on DVD" in the last two months.


Zorin, why do you need to get so defensive? You like the idea of Sheen, I don`t. Certainly not in the Blofeld role. And no, I haven`t ever cast a film, but that doesn`t mean that so called casting directors are always spot on with their casting decisions. How many times in Bond films have we, the fans, complained that someone has been so wrong for the part? Many times.

I used the term "in the frame" very loosely, insofar as the newspaper linked Sheen to the role. I think YOU missed my point on that one.

I for one do not think the casting directors have got BOND wrong that much over the years. Yes, there are glitches, but they tend to not be anything to do with the casting directors or even producers (I can give a few examples, but can't really mention them here as they are not based on public knowledge). I am not defensive. I am just trying to be practical.

No offence meant Auric. Just be careful of blanket statements when discussing cinema and Bond. THAT is why I get so riled. Course you can have your views on Sheen - and I would defend you for having them (even if I didn't agree). But when people's opinions are always gleaned from the mainstream film outlets I do despair.

But - as I said - no offence meant. These are only James Bond films after all......

Eon's radar when it comes to acting talent is based on a little more than what is "doing the rounds on DVD" in the last two months.



I agree. I actually think the fact that Morgan is writing the screenplay, has caused Sheen to appear in the spotlight.

I really do think that this rumour has some form of truth to it, it's almost like a tradition - If Morgan writes something, Sheen is in it.

I've never actually seen so much positive feedback from a mere rumour, on CBn though. B)

To be honest Harky it ain't even a rumour yet. But that is what Zorin Industries tries and wants to do on CBN - open the discussion up into something that is a little more worthwhile than the norm, even if it does start from baseless rumours such as this.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:51 PM

Well I like it. I would have said bringing Blofeld back was cheesy, but I think Michael Sheen could pull it off, in a way that I can't think of many others who could.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:57 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them. This idea is so B)king unoriginal that it's sad.

Fine. Be disgusted.

I hate to tell you but the Bond franchise via the Craig era is ALL ABOUT the past. That is its guiding philosophy and mantra. We have had two Bond films where we don't know who the villain really is. LE CHIFFRE and GREENE are cyphers, narrative front men. I'm not dictating and promoting BLOFELD to return. But he is part of Bond's DNA and that DNA has been part of the new interpretation of 007 onscreen. It is no coincidence that BATMAN has been reborn TWICE in the last twenty years at the cinema and The Joker has been his most memorable adversary.

I am not talking about the BLOFELD of the 1960's with his cat and Mao suits. I am talking about a BLOFELD that could be in a Gaultier leather jacket and :tdown: jeans. I am talking about a BLOFELD that now has an office full of cushions blatantly made of Persian cat fur. I am talking about a BLOFELD that doesn't need a NUMBER TWO as MR WHITE shot him two films ago at the end of ROYALE. I am talking about scope and storytelling with a flourish. That is what Bond is about now.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 08:42 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them. This idea is so B)king unoriginal that it's sad.

Fine. Be disgusted.

I hate to tell you but the Bond franchise via the Craig era is ALL ABOUT the past. That is its guiding philosophy and mantra. We have had two Bond films where we don't know who the villain really is. LE CHIFFRE and GREENE are cyphers, narrative front men. I'm not dictating and promoting BLOFELD to return. But he is part of Bond's DNA and that DNA has been part of the new interpretation of 007 onscreen. It is no coincidence that BATMAN has been reborn TWICE in the last twenty years at the cinema and The Joker has been his most memorable adversary.

I am not talking about the BLOFELD of the 1960's with his cat and Mao suits. I am talking about a BLOFELD that could be in a Gaultier leather jacket and :tdown: jeans. I am talking about a BLOFELD that now has an office full of cushions blatantly made of Persian cat fur. I am talking about a BLOFELD that doesn't need a NUMBER TWO as MR WHITE shot him two films ago at the end of ROYALE. I am talking about scope and storytelling with a flourish. That is what Bond is about now.



Agree with Zorin here, nothing wrong in re-inventing the past as long as it's done well. So far EoN have served us well.
Cherish the past Blofeld with all his cat stroking and monocle, but embrace the future possible one as they can really and truly expand the character. It's all good.
Bond needs Blofeld.
But this Blofeld will be for OUR generation and for Craig's era. :tdown:

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 08:49 PM

Oh God!! This is disgusting! They're going to try to bring back Blofeld? This is the best that Wilson and Broccoli can do?

I'm disgusted beyond belief! The Bond franchise isn't trying to move forward. It's trying to recapture the past. And Wilson and Broccoli are screwing themselves. Oh for God's sake! Now, I've lost any respect for them. This idea is so :tdown:king unoriginal that it's sad.


DAMN! Well in that case! Let's drop Q and Monepenny completely! and a female M, which is SO 1990's.

Urghh. Felix can go do. And the Gunbarrel! And a pre title sequence! And the Bond theme!

I mean, it all needs to change! They can't do this! How DARE they think about reinventing a classic villain! It's just not on! :)

:tdown:


To be honest Harky it ain't even a rumour yet.



But... But it's ALL over the internet. :)

http://www.digitalsp...nd-villain.html

B)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:32 PM

Well I have every faith in the Bond casting folk,They ALWAYS dig out these very good non Hollywood actors & actresses.
Now I wonder if any of the Bond folk have considered the East German spy that featured in the movie, 'The Lives of Others' who would be an excellent choice of sinister villian.