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[The Shark]

Right, but has been in anything where he's truly menacing?

Anything where he's used that chameleon-like talent to play a spine chilling character?

FANTABULOSA for starters. His Kenneth Williams is a snipey tour de force.

It is missing the point to say he must have played a menacing villain in this or that. He is an actor. It doesn't matter. He could ('could') do whatever role he wants. Did we have concerns about Daniel Craig playing a spy because he hadn't before? No, of course not.

No, but because Craig showed that he could be a charismatic middle man in Layer Cake. It wasn't much of a step up to play James Bond.

Like I said I haven't seen a role where he remotely conveys a menace or presence that hold him up for a role as Blofeld. A bitchy Kenneth Williams and a sycophantic Tony Blair, aren't the same deal as Blofeld.

Yes, because Charles Gray's cv prior to DAF practically screamed "Blofeld!", didn't it...?

Faulty reasoning there. Like Megan Fox should be the next next Bond girl, because acting ability, brains and class doesn't matter - because Tanya Roberts was a Bond girl.

Exceptions don't disprove a rule. Poor casting of Blofeld in the past shouldn't be used as model for the future.

so why not just go the whole hog and create an original character?

Completely agreed. That's exactly what EON should do with the series (and QUANTUM) moving forward. We've seen Blofeld several times on screen already. I'd say let Mr. White develop into the next great recurring villain, or go ahead and create that character and introduce him or her sometime in the very near future. But whatever they do, I really hope that they don't bring Blofeld back.

I agree as well, though maybe not with the Mr White aspect. I say we've seen too much of him in compromising and rather pathetic circumstances (namely in Quantum of Solace) to really fear him now. Same with Blofeld, Jaws the shark, and the Alien from the eponymous series - only really being scary when hardly seen at all, behind smoke and mirrors leaving stuff to our imagination.

Edited by The Shark, 12 September 2009 - 12:56 AM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Right, but has been in anything where he's truly menacing?

Anything where he's used that chameleon-like talent to play a spine chilling character?

FANTABULOSA for starters. His Kenneth Williams is a snipey tour de force.

It is missing the point to say he must have played a menacing villain in this or that. He is an actor. It doesn't matter. He could ('could') do whatever role he wants. Did we have concerns about Daniel Craig playing a spy because he hadn't before? No, of course not.

No, but because Craig showed that he could be a charismatic middle man in Layer Cake. It wasn't much of a step up to play James Bond.

Like I said I haven't seen a role where he remotely conveys a menace or presence that hold him up for a role as Blofeld. A bitchy Kenneth Williams and a sycophantic Tony Blair, aren't the same deal as Blofeld.

Yes, because Charles Gray's cv prior to DAF practically screamed "Blofeld!", didn't it...?

Faulty reasoning there. Like Megan Fox should be the next next Bond girl, because acting ability, brains and class doesn't matter - because Tanya Roberts was a Bond girl.

Exceptions don't disprove a rule. Poor casting of Blofeld in the past shouldn't be used as model for the future.

so why not just go the whole hog and create an original character?

Completely agreed. That's exactly what EON should do with the series (and QUANTUM) moving forward. We've seen Blofeld several times on screen already. I'd say let Mr. White develop into the next great recurring villain, or go ahead and create that character and introduce him or her sometime in the very near future. But whatever they do, I really hope that they don't bring Blofeld back.

I agree as well, though maybe not with the Mr White aspect. I say we've seen too much of him in compromising and rather pathetic circumstances (namely in Quantum of Solace) to really fear him now. Same with Blofeld, Jaws the shark, and the Alien from the eponymous series - only really being scary when hardly seen at all, behind smoke and mirrors leaving stuff to our imagination.

On the Mr White thing I think one of the olny things they can do with shock value is make everyone (Bond M etc as well as the fans) belive he is the head of Quantum only to be killed By 007 (half way though the film or in the pretitle sequence which ever works better for shock value) only to reveal white was a small fish in a big pond and we haven't even seen the heads of quantum only middle managers and that 007 M etc were working for Quantum in a sense by killing a rogue element.

[double o ego]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

So even after sheen flat out denied it you still think he'll be in bond 23?

[DaveBond21]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

So even after sheen flat out denied it you still think he'll be in bond 23?

Well, Sheen himself does say that he wishes the rumours were true.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

So even after sheen flat out denied it you still think he'll be in bond 23?

Well, Sheen himself does say that he wishes the rumours were true.

and so does Joe Wright and Megan Fox but that doesn't mean much lol

[double o ego]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

So even after sheen flat out denied it you still think he'll be in bond 23?

That's not what I said. I said his comments mean nothing to me. He may not be in Bond 23 or he may end up being in Bond 23. Like I said, actors do this stuff all the time. Sameul L Jackson went on record saying he wasn't going to be Nick Fury yet the guy has signed a multi picture deal to star as the character in various movies.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Sheen's comments mean nothing to me. Actors are known to say stuff like this all the time. e'll just have to wait for official announcements.

So even after sheen flat out denied it you still think he'll be in bond 23?

That's not what I said. I said his comments mean nothing to me. He may not be in Bond 23 or he may end up being in Bond 23. Like I said, actors do this stuff all the time. Sameul L Jackson went on record saying he wasn't going to be Nick Fury yet the guy has signed a multi picture deal to star as the character in various movies.

Christian Bale denied he would play batman a few times so i guess your right.


We'll see what happenes If sheen comes in i'd be fine with it but NO TO BLOFEILD!

[jrcjohnny99]

Last night I attended a screening of Michael Sheen's new pic, the wonderful "The Damned United" (not so new to those in the UK of course) at the Arclight in Hollywood;
Afterwards there was a Q & A with Sheen; in discussions about TDU he came across as very articulate and witty and genuinely passionate about what he does.
When they opened it up to questions from the audience I siezed my chance and asked him about the Bond 23 rumors; he was pretty catergoric, he stated he would not be doing the next Bond film and this was just paper rumors from the UK; he joked that he may be best suited for Oddjob, then denied the rumor again, then joked again that maybe he would turn up as Miss Moneypenny.

I'd love to see Sheen in a Bond pic, but based on his answers and his body language, I dont think thats likely...

[Quantumofsolace007]

Last night I attended a screening of Michael Sheen's new pic, the wonderful "The Damned United" (not so new to those in the UK of course) at the Arclight in Hollywood;
Afterwards there was a Q & A with Sheen; in discussions about TDU he came across as very articulate and witty and genuinely passionate about what he does.
When they opened it up to questions from the audience I siezed my chance and asked him about the Bond 23 rumors; he was pretty catergoric, he stated he would not be doing the next Bond film and this was just paper rumors from the UK; he joked that he may be best suited for Oddjob, then denied the rumor again, then joked again that maybe he would turn up as Miss Moneypenny.

I'd love to see Sheen in a Bond pic, but based on his answers and his body language, I dont think thats likely...

Which is fine As I'd rather have someone who Is a bond fan and actually is excited to play a bond villian We've had that thus far in the craig series and they were amazing actors to boot. Let's hope it happens again.

[Safari Suit]

I don't think Mads Mikkelsen was a Bond fan before CR, I'm pretty sure I read something about him never having seen any of the films before being cast (and then being none too impressed when he watched them later!)

[Zorin Industries]

Which is fine As I'd rather have someone who Is a bond fan and actually is excited to play a bond villian We've had that thus far in the craig series and they were amazing actors to boot. Let's hope it happens again.

Being a Bond fan has nothing to do with it - and would only be a hindrance. You cast people that are quality actors not quality Bond fans.

[The Shark]

Which is fine As I'd rather have someone who Is a bond fan and actually is excited to play a bond villian We've had that thus far in the craig series and they were amazing actors to boot. Let's hope it happens again.

Being a Bond fan has nothing to do with it - and would only be a hindrance. You cast people that are quality actors not quality Bond fans.

Not on CbN.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Which is fine As I'd rather have someone who Is a bond fan and actually is excited to play a bond villian We've had that thus far in the craig series and they were amazing actors to boot. Let's hope it happens again.

Being a Bond fan has nothing to do with it - and would only be a hindrance. You cast people that are quality actors not quality Bond fans.

Not on CbN.

It's been denied more times then Britney Spears has been married does it matter what anyone says on this board at this point lol

[Zorin Industries]

And first to re-heat The Sheen As Blofeld Casserole are...

http://www.dailyreco...86908-22845837/

http://www.mirror.co...15875-22845060/

It's almost as if that first (BS) article scoured the web and got this thread title for its own...(surely not).

I still think Sheen could make a very apt Bond villain. Working in a BLOFELD is not impossible, but the entourage of the role is hard to work through post DR EVIL et al. But then I'm sure someone somewhere never thought The Daleks could come back alongside a new DOCTOR WHO.

[Royal Dalton]

Didn't take them long, did it?

Sheen's a good actor. But he's not really Bond villain material in my eyes. I'd prefer the villain to be played by an older actor, anyway. Stellan Skarsgård, for example.

[CardShark]

Shame to see the lazyness of tabloids have actually cause this to resurface. Though we definitly will have real news and rumors to discuss in the upcoming months. Which I'm quite excited about

[blueman]

Shame to see the lazyness of tabloids have actually cause this to resurface. Though we definitly will have real news and rumors to discuss in the upcoming months. Which I'm quite excited about

Bond's a hot topic after yesterday, it's the tabloids' job to stir the pot (just like it's ours to geek out).

[CardShark]

Shame to see the lazyness of tabloids have actually cause this to resurface. Though we definitly will have real news and rumors to discuss in the upcoming months. Which I'm quite excited about

Bond's a hot topic after yesterday, it's the tabloids' job to stir the pot (just like it's ours to geek out).

I suppose that came out a bit harsher then it was mean Mr. Blueman. In all honesty I wouldn't mind if Sheen Beale or Weisz was the villan/cast. looking foward to more rumors.

[Guy Haines]

And first to re-heat The Sheen As Blofeld Casserole are...

http://www.dailyreco...86908-22845837/

http://www.mirror.co...15875-22845060/

It's almost as if that first (BS) article scoured the web and got this thread title for its own...(surely not).

I still think Sheen could make a very apt Bond villain. Working in a BLOFELD is not impossible, but the entourage of the role is hard to work through post DR EVIL et al. But then I'm sure someone somewhere never thought The Daleks could come back alongside a new DOCTOR WHO.

Well, I'm pleased to see that, within hours of Bond 23 being confirmed, the UK red top tabloid entertainment BS shovellers have been at it again!

In the 1990s the media default choice for next Bond villain was Anthony Hopkins. The early 2000s - Kevin Spacey. Now the mantle falls on Michael Sheen.

I think he would give a good account of himself as a Bond arch villain, but unless there is a wholesale revamp of the character, I can't picture him as Blofeld. I suspect the articles mention Blofeld because he's the only Bond villain some of these correspondents have heard of.

Actually, the villain I could picture Sheen as has already been played - in the previous Bond film, namely Dominic Greene.

I'd like to see Sheen in 23. (Although I doubt it will happen - instead, I imagine that the producers will be busily trawling the casting agencies of the UK/US/Europe for someone world famous in his own backyard as chief villain!) But if Sheen is cast, I doubt he'll have a white persian cat for company!