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#1321 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:02 PM


I hope it's decided soon so that Newman can build his score around it and it doesn't feel like an 'add-on'.



They’re just taking their time with the announcement, spreading the publicity about for optimum effect. The song was already recorded back in March. Derrick Watkins (the well known trumpeter who has the distinction of playing on all 22 of the Bond film soundtracks) apparently contributed to the song’s recording back in March. Whoever is doing it, it’s a done deal.


How do you know? I mean, that would be great - since Newman really could use the melody for his score.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:14 PM

Could he have contributed to one version of the title track, remember, several tracks are submitted before they choose the performer.

Apparently Bassey and Arnold submitted this for QoS:
and Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse had worked on a track too.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

Could he have contributed to one version of the title track, remember, several tracks are submitted before they choose the performer.



That sometimes happens, but mostly not (TND makes people think this is the way they go about it). Chris Cornell was approached very early on and even visited the CR set whilst filming was taking place in Prague, before making up his mind. Madonna too was approached for DAD and if she said 'yes', that was it.

Apparently Bassey and Arnold submitted this for QoS:
and Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse had worked on a track too.


Arnold has said that that song began life when Winehouse seemed too unwell to work, but he didn't take it very far at that stage.
The Bassey version was written and performed only for her 'Performance' album and was never submitted for QoS.

Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse were to do the QoS song - it was a done deal. Circumstances stopped it happening. Jake White's song was something of an emergency replacement.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:31 PM



I hope it's decided soon so that Newman can build his score around it and it doesn't feel like an 'add-on'.



They’re just taking their time with the announcement, spreading the publicity about for optimum effect. The song was already recorded back in March. Derrick Watkins (the well known trumpeter who has the distinction of playing on all 22 of the Bond film soundtracks) apparently contributed to the song’s recording back in March. Whoever is doing it, it’s a done deal.


How do you know? I mean, that would be great - since Newman really could use the melody for his score.


Derrick Watkins was on the judging panel for a music competition earlier this year, in a number of reports they talked about how he’d recently completed providing trumpet on the theme song for Skyfall.

I think it does bode well, and Newman was talking about “brainstorming ideas” for his Skyfall score as far back as March.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:16 PM




I hope it's decided soon so that Newman can build his score around it and it doesn't feel like an 'add-on'.



They’re just taking their time with the announcement, spreading the publicity about for optimum effect. The song was already recorded back in March. Derrick Watkins (the well known trumpeter who has the distinction of playing on all 22 of the Bond film soundtracks) apparently contributed to the song’s recording back in March. Whoever is doing it, it’s a done deal.


How do you know? I mean, that would be great - since Newman really could use the melody for his score.


Derrick Watkins was on the judging panel for a music competition earlier this year, in a number of reports they talked about how he’d recently completed providing trumpet on the theme song for Skyfall.

I think it does bode well, and Newman was talking about “brainstorming ideas” for his Skyfall score as far back as March.


Yes, i recall that 'brainstorming' quote from Newman. That's why i've been feeling pessimistic about the score - Newman is great, but sounded like he was forming melodies before the theme had been done, meaning tone, in terms of consistency would be contrived and... what's the word i'm looking for.... Suck!

Not Newman's fault, since he needs to get cracking, just a mis-managed timeline. However, i had no idea there was news out there that the score had been recorded already!!

That's great, though trumpets does make it sound to me like Adele's the singer. I'd have preferred someone more interesting like Depeche Mode or Fever Ray. The choices thus far for the reboot have been excellent and far from obvious.

But, the main thing is that Newman's already got the theme to work with - that's really good news and should make for a great score in his capable hands.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 25 June 2012 - 07:22 PM.


#1326 Shrublands

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:34 PM

However, i had no idea there was news out there that the score had been recorded already!!


Nobody has said that. It hasn't.


The choices thus far for the reboot have been excellent and far from obvious.


'Far from obvious' - I'll give you that. 'Excellent' - try one approaching passable, the other musical rubbish. But that said, when the history of the thing is written, nothing that will trouble the score keeper.

Not Newman's fault, since he needs to get cracking, just a mis-managed timeline.


You don't understand, do you?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:02 PM

Maybe James Blunt should do it. I mean, he did many different kinds of songs, sad songs like "No Bravery", few happy songs like "Stay the night" and also something in the middle like "Dangerous". He is also English, and is a well known composer/singer that could do something new for the Bond franchise

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:21 PM

Maybe James Blunt should do it. I mean, he did many different kinds of songs, sad songs like "No Bravery", few happy songs like "Stay the night" and also something in the middle like "Dangerous". He is also English, and is a well known composer/singer that could do something new for the Bond franchise


...and unspeakably dull.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:27 PM


Maybe James Blunt should do it. I mean, he did many different kinds of songs, sad songs like "No Bravery", few happy songs like "Stay the night" and also something in the middle like "Dangerous". He is also English, and is a well known composer/singer that could do something new for the Bond franchise


...and unspeakably dull.

probably. But in the third album he changed a lot the style. And the title song of a Bond film is always something different from the usual work of a singer. Maybe it should be a good choice. For example i don't like so much Adele, but I think she should do a great job for the title song.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:35 PM



Maybe James Blunt should do it. I mean, he did many different kinds of songs, sad songs like "No Bravery", few happy songs like "Stay the night" and also something in the middle like "Dangerous". He is also English, and is a well known composer/singer that could do something new for the Bond franchise


...and unspeakably dull.

probably. But in the third album he changed a lot the style. And the title song of a Bond film is always something different from the usual work of a singer. Maybe it should be a good choice. For example i don't like so much Adele, but I think she should do a great job for the title song.



I’m no big fan of Adele either, I only got ‘21’ so that I could have a good listen because of her rumoured connection with the Skyfall song. But I haven’t been a fan of a few of the artists who’ve produced some of the best Bond songs. Now I think Adele would be a great choice and would look forward to it. I was far more into the idea of Winehouse last time, who I was a fan of anyway.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:36 AM

Wouldn't surprise me if they went for Britain's new favourite will.i.am?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:15 AM

After his Jubilee concert performance? I really hope not!

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:54 AM

If Adele sings it, great voice, fine with me.

But I´d rather have a certain singer who can also hula during the performance...

#1334 Odd Jobbies

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:20 AM


Not Newman's fault, since he needs to get cracking, just a mis-managed timeline.


You don't understand, do you?


In a senario where the score is delivered before the main theme has been worked on, then that's a mismanaged timeline...

But please do fill me in on my lapse in logic...

#1335 Shrublands

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:59 AM



Not Newman's fault, since he needs to get cracking, just a mis-managed timeline.


You don't understand, do you?


In a senario where the score is delivered before the main theme has been worked on, then that's a mismanaged timeline...

But please do fill me in on my lapse in logic...



Simple - NOBODY has claimed that the score has been delivered before the song has been worked on.

As I understand it, (and have already explained) I have reason to believe that the song is in fact finished.
...and the score is being worked on now.

Clear?

#1336 Odd Jobbies

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:29 AM


Not Newman's fault, since he needs to get cracking, just a mis-managed timeline.


You don't understand, do you?


In a senario where the score is delivered before the main theme has been worked on, then that's a mismanaged timeline...

But please do fill me in on my lapse in logic...


Simple - NOBODY has claimed that the score has been delivered before the song has been worked on.


Errr, you'll find that i never said they did...!

Re-read my posts which you've replied to and you'll find that the point i was making was that it's worrying that no artist has been announced, yet Newman was brainstorming ideas.

If this were the actual scenario, then it would indeed be a mismanaged timeline (on Eon's part), since it's agreed here that the theme should ideally be ready in some form for Newman to build his score around. As i said, if this were the case then i wouldn't blame Newman for getting cracking with or without the theme, since he has own deadlines to meet.

I made that point before you piped in with your clue regarding the trumpeter which suggests that i've no need to worry..

As I understand it, (and have already explained) I have reason to believe that the song is in fact finished.
...and the score is being worked on now.


Again, you'll find ii already replied to your revelation, saying that (if it's correct) it's great news as it would suggest that Newman did indeed have a theme to work with when he was quoted as starting to brainstorming.

Clear?


Yes, and have been throughout, thanks, as is clear from a scan of this thread B)

#1337 Shrublands

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:55 AM

Re-read my posts which you've replied to and you'll find that the point i was making was that it's worrying that no artist has been announced, yet Newman was brainstorming ideas.



But it’s not at all worrying that no artist has been announced. Why should they tell us anything until they are ready to do so?

Based on the pattern of the last few films, they’ll tell us towards the end of July. This is part of a publicity strategy - guaranteed headlines all over the world ahead of the theatrical trailer and the big publicity push beginning towards the end of August/September.

I’d make an educated guess, that the song has been in the works since last year. That Adele (most likely) was approached to write and perform it then. If that were the case, a demo would have been submitted before a final decision was made and that version has been in the hands of the film makers for months. Buy now, a fully produced version exists, ready to be added to the film.

Newman arrived in London a couple of weeks ago (the second week of June, according to the man himself) to begin work with the musicians. He’ll be here in the UK right through the summer finishing and recording the score. To me at any rate, everything seems to be moving forward properly.

Why worry and start imagining “mismanaged timelines” when there is absolutely no sensible reason to do so?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM

By the way, here is an early sample from it:

"SKY-FAAAAALL, la-la-la-la-laaaa,
they recorded it already years before,
with composers galore.
And then Adele won Grammys, la-la-la-la-laaaa,
more than she or anyone can carry alone
but she wants one more at home!"

#1339 Shrublands

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:40 PM

By the way, here is an early sample from it:

"SKY-FAAAAALL, la-la-la-la-laaaa,
they recorded it already years before,
with composers galore.
And then Adele won Grammys, la-la-la-la-laaaa,
more than she or anyone can carry alone
but she wants one more at home!"


SKY-FAAAAALL, la-la-la-la-laaaa,
Now it’s her chance for an Oscar to get,
SKY-FAAAAALL is how she’ll complete the set.

Her mantelpiece extension,
Will be far too long to mention.
SKY-FAAAAALL!!!!

#1340 Odd Jobbies

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:44 PM


Re-read my posts which you've replied to and you'll find that the point i was making was that it's worrying that no artist has been announced, yet Newman was brainstorming ideas.



But it’s not at all worrying that no artist has been announced. Why should they tell us anything until they are ready to do so?


Absolutely right :)

My worry was for the hypothetical situation in which the radio silence = Eon are undecided/or having trouble with the label or artist (as with QoS).

Definitely a case of crossed wires here and i'm gratefully delighted to learn from you that the theme is more than likely taken care of.

#1341 Shrublands

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:01 PM



Re-read my posts which you've replied to and you'll find that the point i was making was that it's worrying that no artist has been announced, yet Newman was brainstorming ideas.



But it’s not at all worrying that no artist has been announced. Why should they tell us anything until they are ready to do so?


Absolutely right :)

My worry was for the hypothetical situation in which the radio silence = Eon are undecided/or having trouble with the label or artist (as with QoS).

Definitely a case of crossed wires here and i'm gratefully delighted to learn from you that the theme is more than likely taken care of.



No problem. :)

As a point of reference, they haven’t announced that they have chosen someone to design the title sequence yet. However, they’ve obviously chosen someone because it began filming weeks ago.

Eon will let us know only when they are good and ready.

#1342 S K Y F A L L

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:12 PM

I must admit I'm happy with how much they have kept secret about the film so far.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:53 AM

Me too S K Y F A L L - it's hard for us fans to have to wait for so long but it makes the revelations sweeter, and it's great nothing major has been leaked or spoiled before official announcements, bar obviously filming details/speculation.

This title song, along with information and imagery of Javier Bardem, have to be applauded the fact they've kept things under wraps for so long!

#1344 HellIsHere

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:37 PM

It's gonna be LANA DEL REY.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:38 AM

One Direction,

#1346 007jamesbond

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:40 AM

It is almost July when should we expect to know who doing the titles...........argh!!!!!!!!!!

#1347 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:00 AM

It's gonna be LANA DEL REY.


Please no! I have a friend and she is completely obsessed with her. Almost to the point of comparing photo's of Lana and herself. I just couldn't take it!

#1348 tdalton

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:13 PM

It is almost July when should we expect to know who doing the titles...........argh!!!!!!!!!!


If EON/Sony follow the timeframe of the last two films, they'll announce at the end of July.

#1349 The Shark

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:35 PM

One Direction,


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Please tell me you're kidding.

#1350 Shrublands

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:38 PM


One Direction,


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Please tell me you're kidding.


Why not?

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