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[The Shark]

Right, because we should totally award the title theme to someone based on how they did on SNL. Del Rey probably just wasn't comfortable singing in front of a live studio like that, and choked. If she were recording in a studio - which she would do for the SKYFALL theme - she would no duobt be more comfortable, and therefore produce a better song.

That performance might have single-handedly destroyed her reputation to the point that EON wouldn't even consider her.

Regardless of her "SNL" performance, she just isn't that good.

Bollocks. No one performs well on SNL these days. Not musicians, actors nor comedians. It's a mess of a show, living off its legacy.

Either way, that isn't Lana Del Ray's thing. To quote a wise man:

"Miss Grant can't perform live, but her recordings are very interesting. Hiphop beats, Philly strings and David Lynch is an interesting mix.

Mood music: arenas and television destroy that, but she would go down well in the Jazz Cafe or Ronnie Scotts."

I've listened to the Video Games EP, and it's remarkable. Especially Off To The Races. It's already being sampled to death.

[d21089]

totally agreed Shark

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

Right, because we should totally award the title theme to someone based on how they did on SNL. Del Rey probably just wasn't comfortable singing in front of a live studio like that, and choked. If she were recording in a studio - which she would do for the SKYFALL theme - she would no duobt be more comfortable, and therefore produce a better song.

That performance might have single-handedly destroyed her reputation to the point that EON wouldn't even consider her.

Regardless of her "SNL" performance, she just isn't that good.

Bollocks. No one performs well on SNL these days. Not musicians, actors nor comedians. It's a mess of a show, living off its legacy.

Either way, that isn't Lana Del Ray's thing. To quote a wise man:

"Miss Grant can't perform live, but her recordings are very interesting. Hiphop beats, Philly strings and David Lynch is an interesting mix.

Mood music: arenas and television destroy that, but she would go down well in the Jazz Cafe or Ronnie Scotts."

I've listened to the Video Games EP, and it's remarkable. Especially Off To The Races. It's already being sampled to death.

And Del Rey would not be the first (nor the last) to be uncomfortable during a performance and should not be discounted so quickly. We only have to look back to Nancy Sinatra's recording session for the YOLT theme for evidence of that and if it wasn't for the considerable talent of John Barry we would have been denied one of the most memorable 007 title tracks.

Lana Del Ray has one of the more distinctive voices currently out there and on the basis of what she has recorded so far could definitely offer something memorable for all the right reasons if that is the 'style' that suits the tone of the movie.

Edited by Stainless Steel Teeth INC, 24 January 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[d21089]

Just heard the whole album- its all really solid stuff- live aside, its one of the most interesting major label albums in a long time - well worth checking out in the next few days when its out- or i mean its leaked too

[BourneAgainBond]

i've been listing to adele and lana del rey and i think they would both do a great theme song but i think their to young
chris cornell was 43 i believe, jack white was 33 and alicia keys was i believe was 28
i'm guessing alicia keys is the youngest performer to do a 007 theme song???
adele is only 23 and lana del rey is 25. maybe alicia is a transition to a younger crowd?
007 composer david arnold suggested queen and lady gaga and lady gaga is only 25 years old
http://www.digitalsp...theme-tune.html
although thomas newman is composing, wonder who he has worked with and if he ll have say in who does the theme song
i've heard michael buble was rumored but i don't think hes hard edge enough for daniel craigs bond
my 1st choice is still shirley bassey
but i wouldn't mind if they went for something hard edge like chris cornell's "you know my name" again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7SrwwT6Zps

Edited by BourneAgainBond, 26 January 2012 - 05:31 AM.

[The Shark]

Josh Homme would be alright, but after Madge, Chris Cornell and Alicia Keys & Jack White, I'd rather they went with a British artist.

[Cody]

alicia keys was i believe was 28
i'm guessing alicia keys is the youngest performer to do a 007 theme song???

No. Shirley Bassey (on Goldfinger), Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Lulu, members of A-ha, were around 25 - 28 when they did their Bond songs. I think the youngest was Sheena Easton, who was 22 when she did For Your Eyes Only.

[DominicGreene]

How about the Frogs? They've done numerous Bond-esque songs, this song could practically be a Bond song,

[xboy]

Adele, michael Buble or Dame Shirley bassey

[The Shark]

Boring.

[x007AceOfSpades]

i've been listing to adele and lana del rey and i think they would both do a great theme song but i think their to young
chris cornell was 43 i believe, jack white was 33 and alicia keys was i believe was 28
i'm guessing alicia keys is the youngest performer to do a 007 theme song???
adele is only 23 and lana del rey is 25. maybe alicia is a transition to a younger crowd?
007 composer david arnold suggested queen and lady gaga and lady gaga is only 25 years old
http://www.digitalsp...theme-tune.html
although thomas newman is composing, wonder who he has worked with and if he ll have say in who does the theme song
i've heard michael buble was rumored but i don't think hes hard edge enough for daniel craigs bond
my 1st choice is still shirley bassey
but i wouldn't mind if they went for something hard edge like chris cornell's "you know my name" again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7SrwwT6Zps

I actually like Josh Homme's voice and I'm a big fan of Queens Of The Stone Age as well. The song is great, I wouldn't mind if QOTSA or Josh Homme did the theme song.

[Captain Tightpants]

Instead of QOTSA, perhaps Them Crooked Vultures - Homme, Dave Grohl and John Paul Jones himself - would be a better choice. They're a lot more diverse than QOTSA.

[The Shark]

Nah. Them Crooked Vultures are less than the sum of their parts. I've tried to get into them, but unlike QOTSA, they do nothing for me.

[x007AceOfSpades]

How about this then? I'm suggesting the band or at least the title song having a similar beat to this.

[Captain Tightpants]

Nah. Them Crooked Vultures are less than the sum of their parts. I've tried to get into them, but unlike QOTSA, they do nothing for me.

Maybe that's because they don't have one coherent sound yet. A lot of bands claim that their next album release "sounds like fifteen different songs by fifteen different bands", but TCV's debut album was the first that has actually lived up to this promise (not that they promised it in the first place). The downside is that they don't really have one sound that you can readily identify as being the Vultures. They're the first supergroup since Cream and the Travelling Wilburys that actually deserves the title "supergroup".

[The Shark]

Nah. Them Crooked Vultures are less than the sum of their parts. I've tried to get into them, but unlike QOTSA, they do nothing for me.

Maybe that's because they don't have one coherent sound yet. A lot of bands claim that their next album release "sounds like fifteen different songs by fifteen different bands", but TCV's debut album was the first that has actually lived up to this promise (not that they promised it in the first place). The downside is that they don't really have one sound that you can readily identify as being the Vultures.

Maybe that's what puts me off. I like albums that have got a strong identity, not those schizoid "something for everyone" collections of tracks. Sure, QOTSA were limited, but damn were they good at what they did. At least they were fairly consistent.

They're the first supergroup since Cream and the Travelling Wilburys that actually deserves the title "supergroup".

Pretty much, but at least they had an identifiable sound. The only major constant TCV's got is Josh Homme's voice.

[Captain Tightpants]

Maybe that's what puts me off. I like albums that have got a strong identity, not those schizoid "something for everyone" collections of tracks. Sure, QOTSA were limited, but damn were they good at what they did. At least they were fairly consistent.

They'll probably form an identity over time. They're believed to be going back to the studio once Homme finishes touring for the re-release of Queens of the Stone Age. I don't think they intentionally created Them Crooked Vultures as a "something for everyone" record. They never pitched it that way; instead, I think they wanted to set aside their previous acts and pour all of their influences into one album. It's a little bit erratic and at times it does tend to lean heavily in the direction of one band member (I like Bandoliers, but it's something I would expect to find on a Foo Fighters album), but if they were ever considered for a Bond theme, then I think their album should be considered an endorsement of their suitability rather than disqualifying them entirely. It proves that they are diverse enough to go in practically any direction they want. None of their songs are particularly Bondian, but their range - from the dirty Zepplin Reptiles to southern-rock New Fang and even the unreleased country-esque You Couldn't Possibly Begin To Imagine - speaks to their potential.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Maybe that's what puts me off. I like albums that have got a strong identity, not those schizoid "something for everyone" collections of tracks. Sure, QOTSA were limited, but damn were they good at what they did. At least they were fairly consistent.

They'll probably form an identity over time. They're believed to be going back to the studio once Homme finishes touring for the re-release of Queens of the Stone Age. I don't think they intentionally created Them Crooked Vultures as a "something for everyone" record. They never pitched it that way; instead, I think they wanted to set aside their previous acts and pour all of their influences into one album. It's a little bit erratic and at times it does tend to lean heavily in the direction of one band member (I like Bandoliers, but it's something I would expect to find on a Foo Fighters album), but if they were ever considered for a Bond theme, then I think their album should be considered an endorsement of their suitability rather than disqualifying them entirely. It proves that they are diverse enough to go in practically any direction they want. None of their songs are particularly Bondian, but their range - from the dirty Zepplin Reptiles to southern-rock New Fang and even the unreleased country-esque You Couldn't Possibly Begin To Imagine - speaks to their potential.

Actually Homme is working on a new album for Queens Of The Stone Age for 2012/13 release.

[Captain Tightpants]

He was writing songs for The Crooked Vultures when he was recording Era Vulgaris. And I've heard the Vultures have a whole host of unused material lying around unrecorded.

[BourneAgainBond]

alicia keys was i believe was 28
i'm guessing alicia keys is the youngest performer to do a 007 theme song???

No. Shirley Bassey (on Goldfinger), Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Lulu, members of A-ha, were around 25 - 28 when they did their Bond songs. I think the youngest was Sheena Easton, who was 22 when she did For Your Eyes Only.

well then i guess its back to the drawing board

so what do we know so far?

do we know if or who thomas newman the composer has worked with (musicans) in the past? would that even matter?

i heard one of the producers Barbara just loved sam mandes since american beauty and that was an oscar winner
they are clearly trying to bring back bond films to the oscars with the skyfall cast
i always thought dr.no was the only bond film to be nominated for an oscar but i thought i heard YOLT was nominated too
anyway i get the impression that the skyfall theme song will be very soft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFcYj3BxA-o

Edited by BourneAgainBond, 27 January 2012 - 10:20 PM.

[Fro]

Let's go with someone more progressive who's a critical darling but not a massive star yet and be ahead of the curve

Janelle Monae

Her album in 2010 was two suites that she described as a "futuristic James Bond film set in outer space.". It's really amazing stuff and she's incredibly talented (and could certainly score a film if she wanted).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deTkBIQl5Nw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5cVd-UVf78

She's also an incredible performer who can write a heckuva pop song too.

[Captain Tightpants]

I'm not a fan. I can forgive the way the song doesn't match the visuals in the QUANTUM OF SOLACE titles because those visuals were made to fit Another Way To Die, but what I can't forgive is the way it sounds like it's trying very hard to bring a dormant musical style back into fashion. It sounds like something from the 1940s or 1950s, as if some songwriter or producers has heard music from that era and thought "this is retro, so it has to be cool" and then worked very hard to make it trendy.

[The Shark]

What about this?



Janelle Monáe's more eclectic than her critics make out.

[Captain Tightpants]

I could see that working as a Bond theme itself ... but a quick check of her Wikipedia page shows that it's a part of a concept album. After Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Coldplay's Mylo Xyloto, Madonna's American Life and the disasterpiece itself, Metallica and Lou Reed's Lulu, I have an aversion to pretentious crap.

[The Shark]

Yeah, God forbid an artist should have the arrogance to write a concept album.

[Captain Tightpants]

I have no problem with the concept of concept albums. I have a problem with the execution of them. Some, like The Wall are fantastic. Others, like Mylo Xoloto are drivel. So when an artist's debut album is conceptual in nature, I prefer to err on the side of caution.

[Safari Suit]

Is Mylo Xoloto really a "concept album" in the same sense as The Wall/The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway etc., or has it just been called that to generate a few more column inches? I certainly don't think American Life counts; it may aim for a certain thematic consistency, but that hardly puts it in the same bracket as Rick Wakeman's albums about Henry VIII skating on ice and so forth.

[BourneAgainBond]

i like her and the song
but from all the thomas newman stuff i've beening listing to on youtube i'm still guessing it will be a very slow soft piano type of sound.
i thought finding nemo had a great suspenseful sound they could use for bond.
i would lol in the theater if he did a theme like from the shawshank redemption during his escape, the one with the fiddles.
his newest film "iron lady" well i haven't seen it, oh and i just can't wait too. is i'm assuming very soft.
i have a few of his movies i'll have to watch again, jarhead, road to perdition, the salton of sea, i'll have to give a watch to again

[x007AceOfSpades]

i like her and the song
but from all the thomas newman stuff i've beening listing to on youtube i'm still guessing it will be a very slow soft piano type of sound.
i thought finding nemo had a great suspenseful sound they could use for bond.
i would lol in the theater if he did a theme like from the shawshank redemption during his escape, the one with the fiddles.
his newest film "iron lady" well i haven't seen it, oh and i just can't wait too. is i'm assuming very soft.
i have a few of his movies i'll have to watch again, jarhead, road to perdition, the salton of sea, i'll have to give a watch to again

Jarhead and Road To Perdition are both great in terms of music score and films in general. If I had to choose which score I like the best from Newman from those two films, I'd have to go with Jarhead. This is one of my favorite tracks from the films score.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFoPj4oQDyw&feature=related

As well as this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-tycX5-Klg&feature=related

Although for me, the second link, Battery Run, has a slight distinct Middle Eastern feel to it (Or am I just overlooking it haha).

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 28 January 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[Fro]

I could see that working as a Bond theme itself ... but a quick check of her Wikipedia page shows that it's a part of a concept album. After Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Coldplay's Mylo Xyloto, Madonna's American Life and the disasterpiece itself, Metallica and Lou Reed's Lulu, I have an aversion to pretentious crap.

Right, I'm not saying that should be the Bond theme or anything I posted, but that's she's ridiclously talented (both as a songwriter and singer/performer) and would write a really good theme. Much less of a gamble then hoping that Adele isn't a 2-hit wonder.