Yes, with emphasis on was.So was Marc Forster.It will never happen. Danny Boyle is to famous now and high profile.
Danny Boyle to direct Bond 23?
#121
Posted 04 March 2009 - 12:40 PM
#122
Posted 04 March 2009 - 12:58 PM
I think that's more appropriate to Lee Tamahori than Marc Forster. Tamahori had success with ONCE WERE WARRIRORS, but lately he's become like Rob Cohen: the poor-man's Michael Bay. Marc Forster hasn't self-destructed with QUANTUM OF SOLACE.Yes, with emphasis on was.So was Marc Forster.It will never happen. Danny Boyle is to famous now and high profile.
#123
Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:51 PM
I think there a few misconceptions about this story. The Sun's original story stated that Barbara Broccoli was interested in Danny Boyle directing BOND 23 - which is probably true, as these days, the producers are aiming high with their directors. There is nothing to suggest that Boyle has ever been approached. Indeed, the second story seems to back that up. I'd say that Boyle is on the list of desirable directors for BOND 23 (which probably has dozens of names), but no offer has been made, and subsequently there hasn't been a refusal either.Very sad that Boyle refused
#124
Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:16 PM
He can be quite a soulless director.
Please! Have you seen the passion he puts when directing CR or GE? The guy realy loves Bond films.
#125
Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:20 PM
Passion and substance are two separate things.He can be quite a soulless director.
Please! Have you seen the passion he puts when directing CR or GE? The guy realy loves Bond films.
I think ROYALE is great film and the best thing Campbell has done full stop. But I don't count NO ESCAPE or ZORRO 2 as great benchmarks from which to compare.
#126
Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:47 PM
#127
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:18 PM
Of course a director is being sourced. These things cannot be decided a week before the press conference.What intigues me is not so much wether it's true or not (it's clearly untrue) but does this mean the producers are activly seeking a director. I mean if this was a totally made up rumour why not god for the man many fans want (Chris Nolan) why Danny Boyle? Chris Nolan doing bond rumour would easily be a more sellable rumour and would sell more papers is it possible that Eon is thinking of directors and Mr Boyle is one of them? If they are does this confirm the 2010 date or is bond 23 coming out in 2011?
Danny Boyle has more cache with the British public than Chris Nolan. TRAINSPOTTING, SHALLOW GRAVE, SLUMDOG and 28 DAYS LATER are substantially more part of the British cultural psyche than MEMENTO or THE PRESTIGE.
Lastly, no film company should go for anyone the fans want.
#128
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:20 PM
#129
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:39 PM
So Zorin does this rumour indicate a 2010 release like i and many fans want or is the 2011 rumour true?Of course a director is being sourced. These things cannot be decided a week before the press conference.What intigues me is not so much wether it's true or not (it's clearly untrue) but does this mean the producers are activly seeking a director. I mean if this was a totally made up rumour why not god for the man many fans want (Chris Nolan) why Danny Boyle? Chris Nolan doing bond rumour would easily be a more sellable rumour and would sell more papers is it possible that Eon is thinking of directors and Mr Boyle is one of them? If they are does this confirm the 2010 date or is bond 23 coming out in 2011?
Danny Boyle has more cache with the British public than Chris Nolan. TRAINSPOTTING, SHALLOW GRAVE, SLUMDOG and 28 DAYS LATER are substantially more part of the British cultural psyche than MEMENTO or THE PRESTIGE.
Lastly, no film company should go for anyone the fans want.
Ok i suppose you have a point i still say the story behind the rumour is that yes the producers are looking for a director. I was just mearly metioning if this rumour was totaly made up Chris Nolan seems to be a more popular choice for fans and more people would want to belive it. The Choice of Boyle in the rumour leads me to belive that Bond 23 is moving right along which may indicate a 2010 relase. that being said I'm honestly hoping the next rumour (wether it comes today tomorow or next week) has a bit more substance.
#130
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:47 PM
I'm a Bond fan, but I am an industry professional too. And that gives me a little more confidence to try and break through the fans fences when it comes to musing about the onscreen future of 007 (as do other experiences, insights and ties I have with Bond on screen).Including you?
I never suggest any names for any production based on my likes - but rather who I know would bring something different to a project - and that usually is who the fans don't like (or have even heard of). The best casting - infront of and behind the camera - is not decided by the fans. And by fans, I mean the individuals who think the film world begins and ends with what Empire magazine and the multiplexes feed them.
I do actually think Danny Boyle would elevate a Bond film and create a worthy cousin to ROYALE and SOLACE. I also don't think this story / rumour is done and dusted yet.
But surely other people despair (it can't just be me) when the likes of Nolan are mentioned just because a lot of fans loved THE DARK KNIGHT. There is no point in - for example - BOND 23 being a tonal and tempo retread of THE DARK KNIGHT. But that is why fans mention a name like his. He is not wrong at all. But the parameters that a Bond film requires of its director are plenty and it is not just the finished product that is important to a Bond film's production process. Someone like Barbara Broccoli would not just - in a hypothetical world - choose Nolan solely on Batman. She would have seen his short films, perhaps some theatre work and gauged where he would take Bond next.
So Zorin does this rumour indicate a 2010 release like i and many fans want or is the 2011 rumour true?Of course a director is being sourced. These things cannot be decided a week before the press conference.What intigues me is not so much wether it's true or not (it's clearly untrue) but does this mean the producers are activly seeking a director. I mean if this was a totally made up rumour why not god for the man many fans want (Chris Nolan) why Danny Boyle? Chris Nolan doing bond rumour would easily be a more sellable rumour and would sell more papers is it possible that Eon is thinking of directors and Mr Boyle is one of them? If they are does this confirm the 2010 date or is bond 23 coming out in 2011?
Danny Boyle has more cache with the British public than Chris Nolan. TRAINSPOTTING, SHALLOW GRAVE, SLUMDOG and 28 DAYS LATER are substantially more part of the British cultural psyche than MEMENTO or THE PRESTIGE.
Lastly, no film company should go for anyone the fans want.
Ok i suppose you have a point i still say the story behind the rumour is that yes the producers are looking for a director. I was just mearly metioning if this rumour was totaly made up Chris Nolan seems to be a more popular choice for fans and more people would want to belive it. The Choice of Boyle in the rumour leads me to belive that Bond 23 is moving right along which may indicate a 2010 relase. that being said I'm honestly hoping the next rumour (wether it comes today tomorow or next week) has a bit more substance.
OF COURSE BOND HQ is looking for a director! They are ALWAYS looking for directors.
But let's be sensible here. This is a press rumour generated by a tabloid. It denotes NOTHING to do with any timeframe on a future Bond film. "The choice" of a director in a "rumour" is exactly that - a rumour.
And another thing. People now think this Boyle rumour has no substance because his people have allegedly refuted it. But if they hadn't bothered (and it is questionable as to whether they have actually talked to anyone) would that have made a tabloid rumour any more credible?
Yes - BOND 23 is no doubt moving along very fine indeed. Press rumours and internet speculation have NO bearing on that. In your line of work have you and your bosses decided what the work pattern is going to be in two years time and released a memo detailing it to everyone? No. Of course not.
#131
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:55 PM
and had boyle' people not said no right away the runmour would of been more believable.
Heck Rewind to 2007 how many people were calling Bond 22 Risico because of what the Sun said.
#132
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:25 PM
Passion and substance are two separate things.He can be quite a soulless director.
Please! Have you seen the passion he puts when directing CR or GE? The guy realy loves Bond films.
I think ROYALE is great film and the best thing Campbell has done full stop.
You admit that Campbell made some contribution to the film, then? Only I was under the impression that you felt that CASINO ROYALE had been co-directed by Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig (with Campbell's name on the payroll purely to satisfy the insurers), or that, I dunno, CASINO ROYALE had somehow directed itself.
But surely other people despair (it can't just be me) when the likes of Nolan are mentioned just because a lot of fans loved THE DARK KNIGHT.
Please give us fanboys some credit. I was an admirer of Nolan before he ever set foot on a Batman set, thanks to FOLLOWING and INSOMNIA. spynovelfan, I seem to recall, was raving about MEMENTO here on CBn long before BATMAN BEGINS. Stop assuming that none of us can ever see beyond the latest Empire front cover.
#133
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:37 PM
Indeed. I daresay they might have to court a bit harder than they did with Forster... After all, Boyle just won his Oscar and now has the chance to make practically any film he wants. This is his moment. If EON's going to get him to take that moment and make a Bond film, of all things, they're really going to have to offer some prime things (including, perhaps, final cut).Something extremely viable about this notion? I agree 100%. I was just being slightly picky and taking issue with the putting of Boyle and Forster on the same level. They're on a similar level, sure, and would probably be on the same level had it not been for SLUMDOG's Oscar success, but I don't buy the idea that "Oh, if they can get Forster they can get Boyle - no problem", as though the two directors are clones.
#134
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:38 PM
I'm a Bond fan, but I am an industry professional too. And that gives me a little more confidence to try and break through the fans fences when it comes to musing about the onscreen future of 007 (as do other experiences, insights and ties I have with Bond on screen).Including you?
I never suggest any names for any production based on my likes - but rather who I know would bring something different to a project - and that usually is who the fans don't like (or have even heard of). The best casting - infront of and behind the camera - is not decided by the fans. And by fans, I mean the individuals who think the film world begins and ends with what Empire magazine and the multiplexes feed them.
I do actually think Danny Boyle would elevate a Bond film and create a worthy cousin to ROYALE and SOLACE. I also don't think this story / rumour is done and dusted yet.
But surely other people despair (it can't just be me) when the likes of Nolan are mentioned just because a lot of fans loved THE DARK KNIGHT. There is no point in - for example - BOND 23 being a tonal and tempo retread of THE DARK KNIGHT. But that is why fans mention a name like his. He is not wrong at all. But the parameters that a Bond film requires of its director are plenty and it is not just the finished product that is important to a Bond film's production process. Someone like Barbara Broccoli would not just - in a hypothetical world - choose Nolan solely on Batman. She would have seen his short films, perhaps some theatre work and gauged where he would take Bond next.
How do you know what people think? How can you possibly know why exactly someone is putting forth Nolan as a possible director without being them? How can you tell if someone believes "the film world begins and ends with what Empire magazine and the multiplexes feed them" or if they actually have had more experience with the film business than you?
I don't wish to be rude or put you on the spot like this, and I apologise, but I do think you have tendancy towards very sweeping generalisations.
#135
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:45 PM
as for this rumour well it's untrue i'm curious to see what the next rumour is
#136
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:46 PM
Indeed. I daresay they might have to court a bit harder than they did with Forster... After all, Boyle just won his Oscar and now has the chance to make practically any film he wants. This is his moment. If EON's going to get him to take that moment and make a Bond film, of all things, they're really going to have to offer some prime things (including, perhaps, final cut).Something extremely viable about this notion? I agree 100%. I was just being slightly picky and taking issue with the putting of Boyle and Forster on the same level. They're on a similar level, sure, and would probably be on the same level had it not been for SLUMDOG's Oscar success, but I don't buy the idea that "Oh, if they can get Forster they can get Boyle - no problem", as though the two directors are clones.
But isn´t final cut exactly what Forster had? I think so..
#137
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:47 PM
#138
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:48 PM
No. He didn't have so-called "final cut," and even joked about it in interviews.But isn´t final cut exactly what Forster had? I think so..
#139
Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:51 PM
#140
Posted 04 March 2009 - 07:06 PM
Whether he actually will, or not, is another matter. Seems rather unlikely to me, though.
#141
Posted 05 March 2009 - 10:28 AM
Then I must be more of a fanboy than I realised.I do think you have tendancy towards very sweeping generalisations.I'm a Bond fan, but I am an industry professional too. And that gives me a little more confidence to try and break through the fans fences when it comes to musing about the onscreen future of 007 (as do other experiences, insights and ties I have with Bond on screen).Including you?
I never suggest any names for any production based on my likes - but rather who I know would bring something different to a project - and that usually is who the fans don't like (or have even heard of). The best casting - infront of and behind the camera - is not decided by the fans. And by fans, I mean the individuals who think the film world begins and ends with what Empire magazine and the multiplexes feed them.
I do actually think Danny Boyle would elevate a Bond film and create a worthy cousin to ROYALE and SOLACE. I also don't think this story / rumour is done and dusted yet.
But surely other people despair (it can't just be me) when the likes of Nolan are mentioned just because a lot of fans loved THE DARK KNIGHT. There is no point in - for example - BOND 23 being a tonal and tempo retread of THE DARK KNIGHT. But that is why fans mention a name like his. He is not wrong at all. But the parameters that a Bond film requires of its director are plenty and it is not just the finished product that is important to a Bond film's production process. Someone like Barbara Broccoli would not just - in a hypothetical world - choose Nolan solely on Batman. She would have seen his short films, perhaps some theatre work and gauged where he would take Bond next.
When I personally make statements about (for example) Bond I do so from my professional experience first and my fan-affiliations second.
#142
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:08 AM
#143
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:18 AM
I was a Victorian fortune teller for a summer job once... does that count?Well done in bypassing the issue of how it is exactly that you are apparently able to read people's minds. Or do you do that from professional experience too?
Apologies if I've been a bit prickly on this threads folks. My agent turned down the chance for me to direct BOND 23 before I'd even read the script online.
#144
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:27 AM
#145
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:33 AM
Well if there is I will definitely say to them that Melies should direct Bond 23 over Nolan any day.Depends if anyone here is Victorian.
#146
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:39 AM
#147
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:42 AM
And we need a train sequence. The audience will go wild and run for the exits when they see Craig sat on an old steam locomotive as it - wait for it - pulls out of the station!I would agree, but only if Louis Aimé Augustin Le Prince writes the story. That man knows what audiences want to see up on screen.
And Marie Lloyd can play the new Bond wench. Fortunately Judi Dench was treading the boards even then but the supression of women means that we can't have a female 'M'.
#148
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:45 AM
I just hope the villain's moustache is long enough this time, otherwise the fanboys will go wild. Imagine those angry telegraphs!
#149
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:50 AM
A hint of ankle is fine. As long as we follow it with a shot of a church we'll get past the censors.I hope they'll put an interesting spin on the damsel tied to the tracks. I mean, they've had it in all the others. And I think we can have a racier "what the butler saw" scene in this day and age - a glimpse of ankle, perhaps (or would that be going too far)?
I just hope the villain's moustache is long enough this time, otherwise the fanboys will go wild. Imagine those angry telegraphs!
I don't mind the villain twirling a moustache. Just as long as she lifts it up when she drinks her broth.
And they weren't "fanboys" then. They were "fan-men". Boys didn't exist until the 1920's when the Catholic church were compelled to invent them to give their staff some decent "down time".
#150
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:51 AM