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[St. John Smythe]

Well, NBC DID just order 18 pilots (just pilot episodes, not series). I don't know how well that bodes. I feel your pain -- I've never seen Chuck, but I'm a huge Parks and Recreation fan and would be really disappointed if it gets canceled.

[tdalton]

Well, NBC DID just order 18 pilots (just pilot episodes, not series). I don't know how well that bodes. I feel your pain -- I've never seen Chuck, but I'm a huge Parks and Recreation fan and would be really disappointed if it gets canceled.

Well, they do have (or will most likely have, anyway) five additional hours of prime-time air to fill now that it appears as though NBC is considering moving Jay Leno back to 11:35. With that in mind, several of those would be able to fill those five hours at the 10 pm. slot without necessarily endangering any of NBC's other shows.

Also, taking into account that everything on NBC is pretty much struggling, if Chuck can get to somewhere near the top of the NBC heap, then it stands a very good chance at renewal, unless NBC decides to just scrap the entire slate of shows and start over entirely fresh (can't see that happening, but given how poorly they've managed the late-night situation with Leno and O'Brien, anything's possible). I'm hopeful that Chuck will gain enough viewers to keep itself out of trouble (although I still don't understand why they won't move it off of Monday night so that it can go up against a show that isn't House), and given all of the promotion they've done in the last few months, and the buzz that it's generated (I've read many people say in other online forums that they're going to tune in on Sunday now that they've seen some promos for the show), and I've heard from a lot of people that I actually know that they'll be tuning in as well thanks to finally having been made aware of the show's existence through NBC's new round of promotion for the show, so hopefully all of that helps.

Also, just as a quick plug for the show, if you like the Bond franchise, then I think chances are that you'd like Chuck as well. It's really a very brilliant spoof of the whole spy genre, as well as being a fantastic mix of comedy, drama, romance, and action.

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BCS Title Game

[Safari Suit]

Curb Your Enthusiasm-Series 6
Six episodes in. Yes, I'm a bit behind. I saw a few of these when they first showed in the UK but for the most part I'm just catching up with them now. From what I had seen I thought the family Larry and Cheryl adopted seemed like an unnecessary distraction that spoiled the flow of the show, but watching it now they seem to fit in pefectly well and don't distract at all. Don't know if I agree with some fans that it's the best season, but it's definitely better than Season 4 (which was still great, natch) and probably about on par with the fifth. Hilarious stuff, and it's fun seeing some faces I haven't seen in a while (Tia Carrere, Taylor Negron, Tim Medows and especially my man Charles Napier) turn up in supporting roles. Look forward to checking out Season 7 when I can.

[bondrules]

Family Guy

I taped it from last Sunday.
Lois teaching Peter how to make love again after he loses his memory ? Priceless!

[Joe Bond]

Well, NBC DID just order 18 pilots (just pilot episodes, not series). I don't know how well that bodes. I feel your pain -- I've never seen Chuck, but I'm a huge Parks and Recreation fan and would be really disappointed if it gets canceled.

Well, they do have (or will most likely have, anyway) five additional hours of prime-time air to fill now that it appears as though NBC is considering moving Jay Leno back to 11:35. With that in mind, several of those would be able to fill those five hours at the 10 pm. slot without necessarily endangering any of NBC's other shows.

Also, taking into account that everything on NBC is pretty much struggling, if Chuck can get to somewhere near the top of the NBC heap, then it stands a very good chance at renewal, unless NBC decides to just scrap the entire slate of shows and start over entirely fresh (can't see that happening, but given how poorly they've managed the late-night situation with Leno and O'Brien, anything's possible). I'm hopeful that Chuck will gain enough viewers to keep itself out of trouble (although I still don't understand why they won't move it off of Monday night so that it can go up against a show that isn't House), and given all of the promotion they've done in the last few months, and the buzz that it's generated (I've read many people say in other online forums that they're going to tune in on Sunday now that they've seen some promos for the show), and I've heard from a lot of people that I actually know that they'll be tuning in as well thanks to finally having been made aware of the show's existence through NBC's new round of promotion for the show, so hopefully all of that helps.

Also, just as a quick plug for the show, if you like the Bond franchise, then I think chances are that you'd like Chuck as well. It's really a very brilliant spoof of the whole spy genre, as well as being a fantastic mix of comedy, drama, romance, and action.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The surprising thing is that I will be watching the Sunday two hour premiere and will actually watch the new Desperate Housewives episode later which is saying something because I am a huge fan of that show but I like Chuck a little bit better. Plus the whole House vs. Chuck on Monday's may be bad scheduling on NBC's part but for me I would never watch House over Chuck but I do think NBC does a pretty bad job at scheduling their shows since the whole Jay Leno Show was a nightmare that could have been avoided. It not only caused them to cancel shows they normally wouldn't have, Medium and Scrubs were picked up by other networks, but the Leno show never held any interest to me at all.

[bondrules]

So long Conan, nice riddance. Leno sucks even more. Looks like NBC is doing a great managerial job.

[tdalton]

. Plus the whole House vs. Chuck on Monday's may be bad scheduling on NBC's part but for me I would never watch House over Chuck but I do think NBC does a pretty bad job at scheduling their shows since the whole Jay Leno Show was a nightmare that could have been avoided. It not only caused them to cancel shows they normally wouldn't have, Medium and Scrubs were picked up by other networks, but the Leno show never held any interest to me at all.

I would never watch House over Chuck either (although I was never able to really get into House anyway), but I know quite a few people who, for some reason, actually enjoy that show. I personally don't get it, but it's a wildly popular show for whatever reason, and that, to me, makes it a bad decision on NBC's part to put Chuck (one of their only shows at this point that has the potential to become a hit) opposite of it. They've done that since the beginning of the show, which is partly why "nobody" watches Chuck, since it's been opposite House and Dancing With the Stars. I think that if NBC were to put Chuck on Wednesday night, perhaps at 8 pm, then they might have a hit on their hands.

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Smackdown

[tdalton]

Watched four episodes of Chuck (Season 2). Almost done with my week-long marathon of Season 2 heading up to Sunday's Season 3 premiere.

[Safari Suit]

The rest of Series 6 of Curb Your Enthusiasm; not 100% sure about the happy ending, I guess it all depends on how the seventh series followed up on it. It was all getting just a little too depressing and embarrassing for Larry at that point though, so I guess it did kind of come as a relief.

[Dell Deaton]

Star Trek: The Next Generation, on DVD. Watching this with Number One Son, starting with Season 1, Episode 1; Christmas gift. Now on the fourth or fifth episode and he appears to be hooked. Will see where this "father-son" bonding (small "b") initiative goes.

For what it's worth, I can't help but compare to how much more quickly the original leads defined their characters and got them down. Seem to recall first stories there a lot stronger as well.

All in all, however, no complaints. Looking forward to going on with this.

[JimmyBond]

For what it's worth, I can't help but compare to how much more quickly the original leads defined their characters and got them down. Seem to recall first stories there a lot stronger as well.

The first season (and some of the second season) is plagued with stories that were originally intended for Star Trek Phase II (that aborted plan to bring the TOS crew back to the small screen in the late 70s).

It's no wonder the actor's had a hard time getting a handle on their characters when the scripts were originally intended for original crew.

The last tv show I watched that was new (Well new to me) was NCIS (it was an episode I had missed in December). I'm really starting to love this show, sure I watched the odd episode here and there in the past, but I'm really loving the cast interaction, every character on the show is well defined and they all interact wonderfully. Having been a fan of Mark Harmon growing up, it's also nice to be able to see him on a regular basis again.

[Tybre]

I have to say, when I first learned about Phase II I was always a bit sad it never happened. I think it might've been on the DVD of Star Trek: The Motion Picture but there was something that had what little filmed footage there was included. Come to think of it I think it may have even been test footage...still, they filmed something. I remember I actually sort of liked the characters they were planning to introduce. I think I may have to go diving into my Star Trek DVDs just to find it.

As for myself, I just wrapped up The Mind Robber about thirty minutes ago. Always one of my favorite Troughton stories.

[JimmyBond]

I have to say, when I first learned about Phase II I was always a bit sad it never happened. I think it might've been on the DVD of Star Trek: The Motion Picture but there was something that had what little filmed footage there was included. Come to think of it I think it may have even been test footage...still, they filmed something. I remember I actually sort of liked the characters they were planning to introduce. I think I may have to go diving into my Star Trek DVDs just to find it.

Phase II definately had some lofty ideas. Contributions from scifi authors, all but Nimoy would have returned. With Nimoy's role filled by a new Vulcan character (the actor who was cast as this character can briefly be glimpsed in The Motion Picture as the Starfleet crewman who is killed when V'ger destroys an outpost near the beginning of the film...I think, been a while since I've seen that particular film.).

I'm glad they went in the direction they did though, the first six Trek films are definately the best (I know part 5 is something of a mixed bag for many, but I love it), but I'll always love TMP because it tried to be about something interesting, it also is the only Trek film to even get close to being straight up science fiction.

[Forward Look]

The Mod Squad (Season 2, 1969 - 70)

The first two seasons of this series are now on DVD, but Season #2 is the one that has episode #35, which includes the demise of the trio's iconic woody station wagon. In looking at that show after all these years, I noticed that Linc, the passenger in the car, is acting very calmly as the car is about to crash, reminding me of Sir Sean in DN or Pierce Brosnan in the DAD ice chase. Hmmm, mabye he could have been Felix Leiter at one time. There is even some humor at the end, where the trio is staring at their now-wrecked iconic car, with references to it as the loss of a close family member. You Tube now has a clip of this scene, it now appears to be funny on repeated viewings.




"Good bye, old paint." - Clarence Williams III as Linc Hayes, The Mod Squad

[tdalton]

Jets vs. Bengals
Eagles vs. Cowboys

[Tybre]

Remington Steele
Oh Pierce...*sigh* why can't you have just played Bond this way? It's still not wonderful but it would make the poor writing of his films so much more bearable. Sadly that's about the only thing that ever runs through my head post-Steele. I do greatly enjoy the show, but to be fair I'm still only on the first season (only just watched ep 6) so we'll see how the later seasons shape out.

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NFL Live

[SecretAgentFan]

Remington Steele
Oh Pierce...*sigh* why can't you have just played Bond this way? It's still not wonderful but it would make the poor writing of his films so much more bearable. Sadly that's about the only thing that ever runs through my head post-Steele. I do greatly enjoy the show, but to be fair I'm still only on the first season (only just watched ep 6) so we'll see how the later seasons shape out.

Could you please point out the differences of Brosnan´s acting in RS and in Bond? Personally, I think he approached them both from the same side actingwise. IMO he was a more accomplished actor and had more facets to play when he became James Bond.

[Tybre]

Remington Steele
Oh Pierce...*sigh* why can't you have just played Bond this way? It's still not wonderful but it would make the poor writing of his films so much more bearable. Sadly that's about the only thing that ever runs through my head post-Steele. I do greatly enjoy the show, but to be fair I'm still only on the first season (only just watched ep 6) so we'll see how the later seasons shape out.

Could you please point out the differences of Brosnan´s acting in RS and in Bond? Personally, I think he approached them both from the same side actingwise. IMO he was a more accomplished actor and had more facets to play when he became James Bond.

I admit it's partially because RS isn't let down by the writing, but I find he's much more believable as RS than he is as Bond, and I dunno, there's just something to it I can't quite put my finger on. I'll think about it while I'm watching the next episode (whenever I get round to it), see if I can't find that something. Alls I know, at the moment, is to my mind there is definitely a difference there.

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The Simpsons

[Double-0-7]

CHUCK!

[jaguar007]

CHUCK!

I have to wait another hour and a half here on the west coast. It is all you hoped it would be?

Remington Steele
Oh Pierce...*sigh* why can't you have just played Bond this way? It's still not wonderful but it would make the poor writing of his films so much more bearable. Sadly that's about the only thing that ever runs through my head post-Steele. I do greatly enjoy the show, but to be fair I'm still only on the first season (only just watched ep 6) so we'll see how the later seasons shape out.

Could you please point out the differences of Brosnan´s acting in RS and in Bond? Personally, I think he approached them both from the same side actingwise. IMO he was a more accomplished actor and had more facets to play when he became James Bond.

I admit it's partially because RS isn't let down by the writing, but I find he's much more believable as RS than he is as Bond, and I dunno, there's just something to it I can't quite put my finger on. I'll think about it while I'm watching the next episode (whenever I get round to it), see if I can't find that something. Alls I know, at the moment, is to my mind there is definitely a difference there.

It is because Remington Steele FITS Pierce Brosnan's personality. I loved that show. James Bond just does not fit Pierce Brosnan.

[tdalton]

CHUCK!

I have to wait another hour and a half here on the west coast. It is all you hoped it would be?

I watched the season premiere as well, and left so horribly disappointed. They finally made a bad episode of Chuck (two of them, in fact), something that I didn't think was possible thanks to the fact that I didn't think that any of the previous 35-episodes were bad at all, nor that any of them even sunk as low as mediocre.

Spoiler

Chuck was reduced to a rather whiny individual, Sarah more cold than ever (although, for those that have seen the episodes, she actually has a very good reason for being that way), and Casey was basically reduced to a spectator to the Chuck Bartowski pity party.

EDIT: Sorry, jaguar007. I just re-read your post and comprehended that you hadn't seen the episode yet and decided to go back and put my more specific opinions about the episode in spoiler tags. Sorry if I spoiled anything for you because I was apparently incapable of reading your post correctly the first time, as that was certainly not my intent, and I am indeed very sorry.

[Monkeyfoahead]

NCIS -> Still pretty much awesome.

[Goodnight]

Last nights 'the best of top gear'

The cinematography is simply awesome better than anything on the big screen

[Joe Bond]

CHUCK!

I have to wait another hour and a half here on the west coast. It is all you hoped it would be?

I watched the season premiere as well, and left so horribly disappointed. They finally made a bad episode of Chuck (two of them, in fact), something that I didn't think was possible thanks to the fact that I didn't think that any of the previous 35-episodes were bad at all, nor that any of them even sunk as low as mediocre.

Spoiler

Chuck was reduced to a rather whiny individual, Sarah more cold than ever (although, for those that have seen the episodes, she actually has a very good reason for being that way), and Casey was basically reduced to a spectator to the Chuck Bartowski pity party.

EDIT: Sorry, jaguar007. I just re-read your post and comprehended that you hadn't seen the episode yet and decided to go back and put my more specific opinions about the episode in spoiler tags. Sorry if I spoiled anything for you because I was apparently incapable of reading your post correctly the first time, as that was certainly not my intent, and I am indeed very sorry.

I like it but I understand where you are coming from. However, the preview they had of the rest of Season 3 looks better and the Brandon Routh character has me interested. I think they did make the Chuck character too much of a whiner but it seems the rest of the Season may not have this after watching the preview. I don't believe this season's tag line is all that accurate when talking about the premiere because you could make the argument that he was too nice but I still liked it. The ratings are really subjective since at the 9 P.M slot the show pulled in 7.7 million viewers and at the 10 P.M time slot it pulled in about 7.2 million but finished last in both slots. I think it may have been unwise to put it against Desperate Housewives during its normal time slot since it pulled in a whopping 14 million viewers but I still think it did pretty good. Here is where I got the ratings info from.

[tdalton]

CHUCK!

I have to wait another hour and a half here on the west coast. It is all you hoped it would be?

I watched the season premiere as well, and left so horribly disappointed. They finally made a bad episode of Chuck (two of them, in fact), something that I didn't think was possible thanks to the fact that I didn't think that any of the previous 35-episodes were bad at all, nor that any of them even sunk as low as mediocre.

Spoiler

Chuck was reduced to a rather whiny individual, Sarah more cold than ever (although, for those that have seen the episodes, she actually has a very good reason for being that way), and Casey was basically reduced to a spectator to the Chuck Bartowski pity party.

EDIT: Sorry, jaguar007. I just re-read your post and comprehended that you hadn't seen the episode yet and decided to go back and put my more specific opinions about the episode in spoiler tags. Sorry if I spoiled anything for you because I was apparently incapable of reading your post correctly the first time, as that was certainly not my intent, and I am indeed very sorry.

I like it but I understand where you are coming from. However, the preview they had of the rest of Season 3 looks better and the Brandon Routh character has me interested. I think they did make the Chuck character too much of a whiner but it seems the rest of the Season may not have this after watching the preview. I don't believe this season's tag line is all that accurate when talking about the premiere because you could make the argument that he was too nice but I still liked it. The ratings are really subjective since at the 9 P.M slot the show pulled in 7.7 million viewers and at the 10 P.M time slot it pulled in about 7.2 million but finished last in both slots. I think it may have been unwise to put it against Desperate Housewives during its normal time slot since it pulled in a whopping 14 million viewers but I still think it did pretty good. Here is where I got the ratings info from.

I think that what really made the episodes particularly bad for me is that I would probably say that the element of the show that I'm most invested in is the Chuck/Sarah relationship, which didn't go in the right direction at all. By that, I don't mean that it didn't go the right direction because I disagree on the direction that they ultimately took it, but rather in that none of the characters acted in a way that was consistent with what we've seen in the past 35-episodes regarding the big decision that loomed over the entire first episode. Sarah acted completely out of character, as did Chuck, although to a somewhat lesser degree (but my main annoyance there was that it turned him into such a whiner that I couldn't stand to listen to it anymore. Had he just sucked it up and moved on, I would have been fine with it, as Yvonne Strahovski's stellar acting made her scenes the only true bright spots of the evening).

But, even when the things don't go well in that department, I still love the action and the comedy, of which there was precious little in the opening two episodes.

All I can say is that hopefully tonight is a big improvement. If it's not, I may be done with the series, as I'm not going to sit through what amounts to a season full of "As the World Turns" or "Days of Our Lives".

[Joe Bond]

CHUCK!

I have to wait another hour and a half here on the west coast. It is all you hoped it would be?

I watched the season premiere as well, and left so horribly disappointed. They finally made a bad episode of Chuck (two of them, in fact), something that I didn't think was possible thanks to the fact that I didn't think that any of the previous 35-episodes were bad at all, nor that any of them even sunk as low as mediocre.

Spoiler

Chuck was reduced to a rather whiny individual, Sarah more cold than ever (although, for those that have seen the episodes, she actually has a very good reason for being that way), and Casey was basically reduced to a spectator to the Chuck Bartowski pity party.

EDIT: Sorry, jaguar007. I just re-read your post and comprehended that you hadn't seen the episode yet and decided to go back and put my more specific opinions about the episode in spoiler tags. Sorry if I spoiled anything for you because I was apparently incapable of reading your post correctly the first time, as that was certainly not my intent, and I am indeed very sorry.

I like it but I understand where you are coming from. However, the preview they had of the rest of Season 3 looks better and the Brandon Routh character has me interested. I think they did make the Chuck character too much of a whiner but it seems the rest of the Season may not have this after watching the preview. I don't believe this season's tag line is all that accurate when talking about the premiere because you could make the argument that he was too nice but I still liked it. The ratings are really subjective since at the 9 P.M slot the show pulled in 7.7 million viewers and at the 10 P.M time slot it pulled in about 7.2 million but finished last in both slots. I think it may have been unwise to put it against Desperate Housewives during its normal time slot since it pulled in a whopping 14 million viewers but I still think it did pretty good. Here is where I got the ratings info from.

I think that what really made the episodes particularly bad for me is that I would probably say that the element of the show that I'm most invested in is the Chuck/Sarah relationship, which didn't go in the right direction at all. By that, I don't mean that it didn't go the right direction because I disagree on the direction that they ultimately took it, but rather in that none of the characters acted in a way that was consistent with what we've seen in the past 35-episodes regarding the big decision that loomed over the entire first episode. Sarah acted completely out of character, as did Chuck, although to a somewhat lesser degree (but my main annoyance there was that it turned him into such a whiner that I couldn't stand to listen to it anymore. Had he just sucked it up and moved on, I would have been fine with it, as Yvonne Strahovski's stellar acting made her scenes the only true bright spots of the evening).

But, even when the things don't go well in that department, I still love the action and the comedy, of which there was precious little in the opening two episodes.

All I can say is that hopefully tonight is a big improvement. If it's not, I may be done with the series, as I'm not going to sit through what amounts to a season full of "As the World Turns" or "Days of Our Lives".

Thankfully tonight's episode was a pretty big improvement since Chuck was not a whiner or overtly emotional and I think its a return to the old Chuck and I thought the increased participation of the Devin character was great.