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[Loomis]

Who knows, perhaps THE A-TEAM will bomb. Don't big screen reboots of old TV shows (THE DUKES OF HAZZARD, MIAMI VICE) usually turn out to be box office turkeys?

[Safari Suit]

Dukes of Hazard did pretty well, all things considered (i.e. nobody actually liked it). Well enough to spawn a DTV prequel anyway. Miami Vice was a bit of a bomb though not a disaster (over $160million worldwide on a $135million budget, and I suspect the A-Team remake will be more audience-friendly. Of course there's also Speed Racer if that counts... so I guess you're right, it could bomb.

[dinovelvet]

Who knows, perhaps THE A-TEAM will bomb. Don't big screen reboots of old TV shows (THE DUKES OF HAZZARD, MIAMI VICE) usually turn out to be box office turkeys?

Hmm...Star Trek, Mission Impossible, Sex and the City, Get Smart...

Dukes of Hazard did pretty well, all things considered (i.e. nobody actually liked it). Well enough to spawn a DTV prequel anyway. Miami Vice was a bit of a bomb though not a disaster (over $160million worldwide on a $135million budget, and I suspect the A-Team remake will be more audience-friendly. Of course there's also Speed Racer if that counts... so I guess you're right, it could bomb.

Doesn't Transformers count too?

[JimmyBond]

With the exception of Get Smart I wouldnt say any of those were "reboots." Well ok, Star Trek is as well, but if we include the original movie then my point will make sense.

Those movies took the main concept and expanded on the storylines, Sex and the City was more like a sequel to the show anyways, continuing every storyline set up in the series. Star Trek (the original series films at least) did the same thing as well. Mission Impossible could be considered similar as it didnt directly copy the show but moved the series into new territory...of course many fans didnt like what they did to Jim Phelps, but in essence MI does feel like a sequel to the series, in many respects.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Who knows, perhaps THE A-TEAM will bomb. Don't big screen reboots of old TV shows (THE DUKES OF HAZZARD, MIAMI VICE) usually turn out to be box office turkeys?

At least the new cast is superior to the originals which you can't say about Star Trek or Miami Vice(which I love but Colin Farrel aint 1% the cool of Don Johnson).

[Loomis]

Who knows, perhaps THE A-TEAM will bomb. Don't big screen reboots of old TV shows (THE DUKES OF HAZZARD, MIAMI VICE) usually turn out to be box office turkeys?

At least the new cast is superior to the originals which you can't say about Star Trek or Miami Vice(which I love but Colin Farrel aint 1% the cool of Don Johnson).

I disagree. I don't see any names to get excited about in the A-TEAM movie cast. Neither do I see that they're superior to the actors who essayed the original team on TV. Well, they may be better actors from a technical point of view (Neeson's certainly seen as a quality thespian), but I doubt they'll do anything more with the characters than what we've already seen on TV. Indeed, the costume design and Neeson's ridiculous "I'm going to a fancy dress party as Hannibal from THE A-TEAM" getup just proves that they're doing nothing more than copying them. At least Colin Farrell had the grace not to imitate Don Johnson but to put his own spin - such as it was - on Crockett.

In particular, casting someone other than Mr. T as B.A. Baracus is pure sacrilege. It's as bad as hiring anyone apart from Stallone to play Rocky or Rambo. Not all roles are recastable like James Bond (Bond is actually one of the few exceptions that proves the rule) - some are 100% owned lock, stock and barrel by particular actors, and B.A. Baracus is one such role.

Of course, I know that Mr. T is now too old to play B.A. (although he doesn't necessarily look it, and I personally wouldn't mind seeing a mean old grizzled badass B.A. in his fifties), but you know what? Don't make the movie at all in that case. Seriously. The world can live without a big screen version of THE A-TEAM. We've been fine without one all these years and we can continue to soldier on. Damned unimaginative, moneygrubbing, remaking, rebooting sods. Can't Hollywood for once leave something alone and not remake it? Just once. Pretty please.

[Safari Suit]

Doesn't Transformers count too?

Yeah, but that was over two decades ago and it only made $6million:
http://boxofficemojo...ransformers.htm

Nah, you're quite right I forgot that one

Then there's The Simpsons Movie. There've been about 400 episodes of the TV show, they're on TV everyday, half of those episodes are out on DVD, there's nobody, not even staunch defenders like myself, who doesn't think it's a great many years past its best, ratings for the TV show keep reaching new lows (the recent episode with the actually pretty great Maggie in The Fountainhead story was the lowest rated in the show's history) and the film was still a smash hit!

[JimmyBond]

Not to take the thread off topic (not that it already has) but I think the Simpsons movie was a hit because it was better (though not a whole lot) than what's being shown weekly nowadays. Though to be honest this season has been pretty decent, at least in my opinion.

[Safari Suit]

Not to continuue going off but... I think it will never be as good as it was in the 90s, but I think the nadir was reached a fair while ago; I consider Simpsons Tall Tales the worst episode of all and that was from 2001. I think the general standard has improved since then, occasionally there is a horrible episode, but every so often a gem too. That said I am only fleetingly familiar with the 17th-21st seasons.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Who knows, perhaps THE A-TEAM will bomb. Don't big screen reboots of old TV shows (THE DUKES OF HAZZARD, MIAMI VICE) usually turn out to be box office turkeys?

At least the new cast is superior to the originals which you can't say about Star Trek or Miami Vice(which I love but Colin Farrel aint 1% the cool of Don Johnson).

I disagree. I don't see any names to get excited about in the A-TEAM movie cast. Neither do I see that they're superior to the actors who essayed the original team on TV. Well, they may be better actors from a technical point of view (Neeson's certainly seen as a quality thespian), but I doubt they'll do anything more with the characters than what we've already seen on TV. Indeed, the costume design and Neeson's ridiculous "I'm going to a fancy dress party as Hannibal from THE A-TEAM" getup just proves that they're doing nothing more than copying them. At least Colin Farrell had the grace not to imitate Don Johnson but to put his own spin - such as it was - on Crockett.

In particular, casting someone other than Mr. T as B.A. Baracus is pure sacrilege. It's as bad as hiring anyone apart from Stallone to play Rocky or Rambo. Not all roles are recastable like James Bond (Bond is actually one of the few exceptions that proves the rule) - some are 100% owned lock, stock and barrel by particular actors, and B.A. Baracus is one such role.

Of course, I know that Mr. T is now too old to play B.A. (although he doesn't necessarily look it, and I personally wouldn't mind seeing a mean old grizzled badass B.A. in his fifties), but you know what? Don't make the movie at all in that case. Seriously. The world can live without a big screen version of THE A-TEAM. We've been fine without one all these years and we can continue to soldier on. Damned unimaginative, moneygrubbing, remaking, rebooting sods. Can't Hollywood for once leave something alone and not remake it? Just once. Pretty please.

You're preaching to the choir Loomis™. But...I can see the suit's POV: a new, original film with a $100-200M budget who's mythology isn't already grandfathered into the the geek conciousness is a huge ri$k. So sad that hollywood is canibalizing the 1980s, a decade of enormous orginality and cajones that should as serve as a model.I'd like to see Chris Nolan's movie do well since it's 100% original.

[JimmyBond]

Not to continuue going off but... I think it will never be as good as it was in the 90s, but I think the nadir was reached a fair while ago; I consider Simpsons Tall Tales the worst episode of all and that was from 2001.

I actually had to look that episode up to remind me what it was. But after I did, I have to ask really? While I havent seen said episode in a while I did find it entertaining enough, it certainly wasnt any worse than the one where Homer joins the Army and then flees back to Springfield during wargames.

[Safari Suit]

Is the army one the one with Keither Sutherland guest voicing? If so I've seen that once, I don't really remember anything about it but certainly didn't dislike it as much as the Tall Tales one.

[JimmyBond]

Is the army one the one with Keither Sutherland guest voicing? If so I've seen that once, I don't really remember anything about it but certainly didn't dislike it as much as the Tall Tales one.

Yeah I think it's the one with Kiefer Sutherland. Near the end there's a scene where a small army drone helicopter chases Homer through his house and they re-enact a lot of old Loony Tunes bits. For a cartoon that used to pride itself on being about realistic situations this was a low point for me.

[Safari Suit]

We really should take this somewhere else but... I don't buy into the whole "Simpsons should be realistic" stuff. The best episodes have stuff like Homer going into space or Sideshow Bob singing HMS Pinafore impromptu. Sure, some later episodes have been gratingly over the top but I don't think a lack of realism has been a real sign of the show's downfall. Besides, why bother to make a cartoon if you could do the same stuff with live action?

[Safari Suit]

Well I feel like I should get this thing back on topic. The closest thing I can find to on-topic is this red band trailer for Dolph's new DTV out in the US on Tuesday.



From that I have to admit I think it looks like a blast, but word is it's surprisingly dull. Eric Roberts was supposed to play the villain at one point, shame it didn't happen.

[dinovelvet]

Here's an article that details what happens in the scene featuring "the big three", with comments from Sly :

http://popwatch.ew.c.....7Expendables'

[dodge]

Here's an article that details what happens in the scene featuring "the big three", with comments from Sly :

http://popwatch.ew.c.....7Expendables'

Well, this certainly promises to be five minutes very well spent. And it would be verrrrrry interesting if Arnold gets the chance to do something even a little like action, not just talk. I'm not sure how that would tie with his political interests...but it might spark some needed fear in the heart of his opponents.

[JimmyBond]

Here's an article that details what happens in the scene featuring "the big three", with comments from Sly :

http://popwatch.ew.c.....7Expendables'

That scene is going to go over extremely well in the theaters. I can just tell.

[Matt_13]

UPDATE FOR RAMBO V: Man/Beast element tossed, says Sly: http://movies.ign.co.../1044889p1.html

[dodge]

Mickey Rourke shares my enthusiasm for Viggo Mortenson's performance in Eastern Promises:

London, Nov 7 (ANI): American actor Mickey Rourke is said to have turned the air blue during an interview after he used a cuss word in each and every sentence.

Rourke, 57, who had acted in ‘91/2 Weeks’, was interviewed by presenter Alex Zane, 30, for Sky Movies, and telly bosses ended up censoring most of it with bleeps as there were too many swear words used.

“We nicknamed the TV chat Nine-And-A-Half Bleeps,” the Daily Star quoted a show source as saying.

The actor used a lot of swear words as he praised Viggo Mortensen, 51, for his role as a mobster in the Russian mafia film ‘Eastern Promises’.

“It’s not easy ing wrestling some c*** in a ing bathroom. I take my hat off to him for running around with his dick out,” he said.

[dinovelvet]

Mickey Rourke shares my enthusiasm for Viggo Mortenson's performance in Eastern Promises:

London, Nov 7 (ANI): American actor Mickey Rourke is said to have turned the air blue during an interview after he used a cuss word in each and every sentence.

LOL, did they not know who they were interviewing?

[jrcjohnny99]

Not sure if this has been mentioned (but I assume it has?)
Just saw the release date has been moved to the summer; obv the studio is very confident that this can stand tall against the big guns next year; THAT tells me all I need to know;
I'm now looking forward to it!

[dodge]

Mickey Rourke shares my enthusiasm for Viggo Mortenson's performance in Eastern Promises:

London, Nov 7 (ANI): American actor Mickey Rourke is said to have turned the air blue during an interview after he used a cuss word in each and every sentence.

LOL, did they not know who they were interviewing?

They knew but were hoping the crumpets they served might civilize Mick's raunchy tongue.

[dinovelvet]

If there's one film that can challenge the awesomeness of The Expendables...ehh, well maybe not.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

[JimmyBond]

So Van Damme passed up The Expendables for that? Or maybe not, if Dolph's in there too. But still, even though his original Universal Soldier was a hit, and the sequel (his sequel at least) got a theatrical run, this movie has DTV written all over it.

[Safari Suit]

I don't think he turned it down for any specific film, I think he turned it down because he doesn't like sharing the spotlight. Not that he said that in so many words, but I can read between the lines.

At any rate I think it looks like fun if you like that kind of crap, which I obviously do. Visually it doesn't seem to look as ugly or naff as most recent DTVs, which might be because Peter Hyams (2010, Outland etc.) did the cinematography (his son John directed it).

[JimmyBond]

Not seeing any films of the series in the first place I really can't comment. I know it's had it's weird history though. The original film was a hit so two DTV sequels followed with different actors. Than Van Damme decided to do his own sequel and thus wrote off those two sequels. Now he's finally made a third film and it's also going DTV. Is this the only film series that has two part 2's and two part 3's?

[dodge]

If there's one film that can challenge the awesomeness of The Expendables...ehh, well maybe not.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

LOL. May be rot. But I'll see it to help support Lundgren.

[dodge]

I see it's been announced that Arnold will retire from politics when his second term as governor has ended. No more talk of challenging current laws that ban him from running for Prez. Well, in that case, if he isn't killed of this movie...might he back for another?

[dinovelvet]

Since this has become the unofficial 'ageing action stars' thread, let's note that tonight sees the debut of the greatest reality show ever made :

STEVEN SEAGAL - LAWMAN !

10pm tonight on A&E.

http://www.aetv.com/...-seagal-lawman/