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#61 DaveBond21

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 09:42 AM

In fact, watching Casino Royale right before viewing QoS is almost required viewing for anyone going to see QoS in the theaters


Indeed. And I know quite a few people who went into QOS without having seen CR, or being aware of the new direction of the Bond movies. They would have been totally lost as to what they were watching.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 06:24 AM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:29 PM

Also, I think on fourth viewing I finally heard the film's lone reference to Elvis by name: It's on the dock in Haiti, when Elvis hands Greene a map so that Greene can point out to General Medrano the specific piece of Bolivian desert he wants. Greene says, very softly, "Merci Elvis." (Not trying to make fun of his French accent, but this is what it sounds like to me: "Merci Eh-vee.")

Also, earlier on the dock, when Greene tells Camille the story about a piano student of his mother's he overheard talking behind his back, he says he got so angry that he took her lyre (music stand). I think that's what he says, anyway; it took me a while to make out that last word.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:39 PM

On second viewing, I caught the poor benighted Special Branch man muttering "Piss off!" when Bond asks him who he works for... :(

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:00 PM

Bonds escapes from the bar where he met with Felix. As he walks off the porch, below on the right there's a dog looking straight in the camera.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:04 PM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(

"McFly...!!(TAPS HEAD)"....

I didn't notice that the opening white dot thing that the James Bond actor walks in then turns and fires and red liquid comes down (Tizer?) was put at the end of the film in the way it was in the original films from the 1960's.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:45 PM

If we're including bloopers:

On the first viewing I noticed a movie camera lens in shot, on screen left, during the Palio footage. But in fairness, it may have not be the film crew's, but one of the crowd spectators.

On further viewings: the number of times Bond and Camille greet each other from a car with the command "Get, in.... GET IN!" (Two for Camille, one for Bond).

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:50 PM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(

"McFly...!!(TAPS HEAD)"....

I didn't notice that the opening white dot thing that the James Bond actor walks in then turns and fires and red liquid comes down (Tizer?) was put at the end of the film in the way it was in the original films from the 1960's.


Was it at the end in the 60s?

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 08:32 PM

Something else I noticed on subsequent viewings: the blue of Slate's eyes as he's lying there after Bond leaves his dead body on the balcony . . . which, of course, is why Bond was able to assume his identity so easily. I got that part on first viewing (they had a similar build, similar color of hair, etc), but didn't catch how blue Slate's eyes were till later on.

Also, many people have complained about the lack of a gunbarrel sequence at the beginning, but isn't there a sort of symbolic gunbarrel at the beginning of the opening titles sequence, with the white sun in the background, Bond in the foreground? It looks that way to me . . . but maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:24 AM

I had my suspicions during the first viewing, and they were confirmed with the second viewing:

I would love to "look for stationary" with Ms Fields.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 04:35 AM

Bonds escapes from the bar where he met with Felix. As he walks off the porch, below on the right there's a dog looking straight in the camera.


Took me 3 viewings to notice that. On my third viewing I also noted the cars in the climax at the hotel had the Greene planet stickers on them.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 06:25 AM

Bonds escapes from the bar where he met with Felix. As he walks off the porch, below on the right there's a dog looking straight in the camera.


Took me 3 viewings to notice that.

I noticed the dog crack off the bat. I think it's just because 1) I like animals; and 2) the shot segues from one animal to another (a lizard crawling on the desert rocks).

On my third viewing I also noted the cars in the climax at the hotel had the Greene planet stickers on them.

Hmmm, six viewings in, I still haven't noticed that. The only time I remember the Greene Planet logo on a car is in Haiti, when Camille stops to pick up Bond.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:31 AM

Anyone realise the random hooker sitting on the stairs when Bond is on the phone to Felix? :(

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 11:24 AM

On further viewings: the number of times Bond and Camille greet each other from a car with the command "Get, in.... GET IN!" (Two for Camille, one for Bond).

Ha! That is funny. Seems he learned from Camille how to command a person into a car. :(

Saw it again last night, and I'll confirm it again in case anyone's still doubting: Elvis' pants fly right off, and it's completely deliberate. The joke may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's there and it's not accidental.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:14 PM

Anyone realise the random hooker sitting on the stairs when Bond is on the phone to Felix? :(


What that was a little girl!

I didn't notice Elivs got a name credit. Hmmmm.......I've only seen the film twice, but the second time I saw it it just cemented some of the things I gorgot, like the Mathis scenes and Greene talking about his mother.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:17 PM

It wasn't a little girl. I've just watched the scene again now. It's a middle aged woman.

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 12:31 AM

It wasn't a little girl. I've just watched the scene again now. It's a middle aged woman.

Couldn't tell her age, but it was definitely a woman, not a child. She was dialling on her cellphone while Bond was on the phone to Leiter.

Watching again today, I just noticed the blood on Bond's pants from his knife fight with Slate. First time I saw it was as he's riding the motorcycle toward the docks. Didn't pick up on that before. Also caught a bit more of Camille's dialogue this time around, and there were a few more lines by M that I got this time around, as well. Dunno why I couldn't understand them before, as they came in clear as day today.

Today was viewing No. 7. Yes, I'm like those crazed "Star Wars" fans who lined up around the block for their hundredth viewing. What can I say? I just enjoy the experience of this movie.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:07 AM

Another thing I noticed was at the Greene Planet fundraising party, when Mathis introduces Carlos to Bond and Fields, and Carlos tells Bond his entire police force "is at your disposal." A wee bit of irony there, eh? Because, as it turns out, he's intent on using his police force to dispose of Bond.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:24 AM

Today was viewing No. 7. Yes, I'm like those crazed "Star Wars" fans who lined up around the block for their hundredth viewing. What can I say? I just enjoy the experience of this movie.


I'm up to viewing 7# myself! :( Can't say that I picked up anything new this round.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:28 AM

Today was viewing No. 7. Yes, I'm like those crazed "Star Wars" fans who lined up around the block for their hundredth viewing. What can I say? I just enjoy the experience of this movie.


I'm up to viewing 7# myself! :( Can't say that I picked up anything new this round.

LOL, went for No. 8 tonight! I didn't pick up any new insights, just thoroughly enjoyed the experience once again.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 10:30 AM

Today was viewing No. 7. Yes, I'm like those crazed "Star Wars" fans who lined up around the block for their hundredth viewing. What can I say? I just enjoy the experience of this movie.


I'm up to viewing 7# myself! :( Can't say that I picked up anything new this round.

LOL, went for No. 8 tonight! I didn't pick up any new insights, just thoroughly enjoyed the experience once again.


Wow, 8??? Well, I am going for viewing No. 3 next week.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 05:44 PM

During the taxi drive, in my 3rd viewing, I noticed that Daniel Bond has the last (fifth) sleeve button undone. Now, we all know his suit is Tom Ford bespoke, but having lived in England for four years now, I thought Bond would never do that (remember Vesper saying that he wears the suit with disdain?). I could never have imagined that Bond would use such a middle-class snobbery cliche gesture, just to show off.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:23 PM

Here's something new I picked up on on my third viewing: when Bond, Fields and Mathis are in the taxi in La Paz, and there's an awful lot of subtitled dialogue going on, at one point someone (the driver, I think) refers to something as being like "the wrath of God".

Now, this can only be a reference to AGUIRRE: THE WRATH OF GOD, the 1972 film by revered German arthouse director Werner Herzog, which features a somewhat Dominic Greene-ish conquistador (Klaus Kinski) who journeys into madness while leading a highly ill-advised search for a fabled city of gold in the wilds of South America in the 16th century. I'm sure that Marc Forster has seen and admires this film, so I imagine it's a deliberate in-joke, one of the artier and more obscure ones in Bond history.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:44 PM

i noticed daniel craigs lookalike steve wright appears gaurding the door of mitchells home and that at greene's speech you can see a bottle of coke zero zero 7 when the asian woman appears on screen.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 10:31 AM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(


I thought that was Bond looking for his tux?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:31 PM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(


I thought that was Bond looking for his tux?

I don't think so. I think that was an opera performer searching for his tux, opening the locker and finding Bond's clothes inside. You can even see the sleeve of Bond's dark shirt hanging out of the locker door as the fellow opens it. It was bugging me as to what that was, till I finally realized that was Bond's black shirtsleeve.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:35 PM

Dim bulb chiming in: On fourth viewing, I've only just now picked up on the fact that the fellow searching through the wardrobe lockers at the opera was looking for his tuxedo that Bond had just stolen and put on. I knew Bond had taken a tux; I just didn't realize the point of the guy opening one door after another . . . till tonight.

Slow, I know. . . . :(

"McFly...!!(TAPS HEAD)"....

I didn't notice that the opening white dot thing that the James Bond actor walks in then turns and fires and red liquid comes down (Tizer?) was put at the end of the film in the way it was in the original films from the 1960's.


Was it at the end in the 60s?

I think that was a joke... I think. :)

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:45 PM

I think they added a couple of extra seconds in the boat pursuit and at the end of the free-fall sequence.

If you check out my 'review' in the 'member's review' sections of the forums, I go into more detail, especially the boat flip.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:27 PM

On my sixth viewing on the film I noticed that during the fire sequence you can hear slight screaming with the fire sound effect which I think is supposed to represent Camille's mother and sister screaming when their house was burned to the ground and I finally figured out what Bond says to Camille in the boat chase which was "naviagate" which I thought he said "never again" or something kinda of like how in CR when Bond says "Welcome to my Home" to Solange which through Craig's accent I could never hear him say home clearly.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:33 PM

During the MTS When Dan Bradley gets his credit where the women are dancing together with the heels on, Dan's eyes are in the background staring at you throughout the endtire scene.

Also a man falls off his horse during the Siena chase.