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[stamper]

What's the second pic ?

[DamnCoffee]

From what I've read, this deleted ending is best off that way. It would feel tacked on, with Forster putting it perfectly, Bond has his solace and the film ends.

It would be best off left alone. The movie is fine the way it is. And the end scene, as it stands now, works perfectly.

[Vauxhall]

What's the second pic ?

Bond with his gun drawn.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

What's the second pic ?

Bond with his gun drawn.

And this looks like another one. It's the third pic down in the post

http://debrief.comma...p...st&p=945577

It looks like the same scene.

[Cody]

Seems Bond isn't the one who would've gotten shot.

Original ending

The movie was originally intended to end with a one-minute sequence where 007 introduces himself to Mr Haines at his estate, setting up the next movie. The gun-barrel sequence, uniquely positioned at the end of "Quantum of Solace", would have appeared after Bond dispatches Mr White for good.

[DamnCoffee]

Erm... WOW! I knew Haines had something to do with it, the moment I saw the game ending!

[Harmsway]

Seems Bond isn't the one who would've gotten shot.

Original ending

The movie was originally intended to end with a one-minute sequence where 007 introduces himself to Mr Haines at his estate, setting up the next movie. The gun-barrel sequence, uniquely positioned at the end of "Quantum of Solace", would have appeared after Bond dispatches Mr White for good.

Hmm. Interesting. I'm glad they left Mr. White alive, then, because he's too cool to waste at the end of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

[Sir James Moloney]

Seems Bond isn't the one who would've gotten shot.

Original ending

The movie was originally intended to end with a one-minute sequence where 007 introduces himself to Mr Haines at his estate, setting up the next movie. The gun-barrel sequence, uniquely positioned at the end of "Quantum of Solace", would have appeared after Bond dispatches Mr White for good.

Hmm. Interesting. I'm glad they left Mr. White alive, then, because he's too cool to waste at the end of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

I agree. White is one of the most interesting characters of the franchise and will go down in History as such. Jesper must have been glad too, another paycheck possibility right?

[sharpshooter]

Reminiscent of the QoS video game ending, then. I’m so glad they decided to keep White alive. He's too good to kill off, they can get more out of him yet.

[MR. BOND 93]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm already glad they cut this ending. I beat the game today, and the ending seemed waaaaay too abrupt. I think alot of people in the audience would just be sitting there like "Uh... okay?"

[BlackFire]

So... Bond 23 will be Quantum's sequel with the 'final boss' being this Slate guy?

[Vauxhall]

So... Bond 23 will be Quantum's sequel with the 'final boss' being this Slate guy?

Slate is dead. Do you mean Haines? If so, I strongly doubt he is the main boss in Quantum.

[Zorin Industries]

Are people confusing how the game ends with how the film ends as if they are at all connected narratively and creatively.

I'm not a gamer but aren't the computer games of Bond just merchandising spin-offs? Isn't it like claiming a 007 lottery scratch card gave away the real ending to SOLACE?

And who is HAINES? Foreign Secretary?

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Are people confusing how the game ends with how the film ends as if they are at all connected narratively and creatively.

I'm not a gamer but aren't the computer games of Bond just merchandising spin-offs? Isn't it like claiming a 007 lottery scratch card gave away the real ending to SOLACE?

And who is HAINES? Foreign Secretary?

Guy Hanies is apparently a close adviser to the British PM. As I understand it Haines is in the film during the opera scene and is one of the members Bond takes a picture of. The guy from special branch that Bond offs was guarding Hanies. I guess that was a set up for this deleted ending. The game doesn't end with the death of White as this new report suggests but it all makes sense to me. That's what Forster meant when he said they would have had to follow up that lead, which we now know would have been Hanies.

[Joe Bond]

It looks like it was cut for a good reason to me and its nice to know that Mr. White can still be incorporated in future Bond films and it makes Stamper's comments about the FRWL novel ending had to be the original ending look foolish since it was the exact opposite and just a good idea from fans and nothing else.

[stamper]

Well it's not what was implied in the IMDB YOLT review, which I still think was genuine that's where the idea comes from. It also told about Camille dying, which isn't in the movie, but yet, if you look at the ending of the movie, you can clearly see something is wrong, Camille is told off screen to "stay there" and Bond deals with Greene alone, leaving her in a place that was crawling with bad guys... And then he gets her back in the car... makes no sense, except if you take into account that they shot two different versions stitched together in the editing suite. It's obvious the movie was in total chaos and that they shot several ways a few scenes, I'm certain that the Bond shot ending was genuine (if not, why would people ask if it is the final one when leaving the theater).

[Harmsway]

Well it's not what was implied in the IMDB YOLT review, which I still think was genuine that's where the idea comes from.

There is no reason to believe the IMDB YOLT review was genuine. But I don't know why I bother to make that point... reason hasn't been your strong suit lately.

[Captain Tightpants]

Spoiler

Could Guy Haines be a code-name within Quantum? I Googled it just to see wat I got, and as it turn out, Guy Haines is the name of a major character in Strangers on a Train. For those of you who don't know the plot, he's one of the two titular strangers on the train, conspiring to murder another man's wife in exchange for said man murdering his wife so that each has the perfect alibi. Given that Haines is supposed to be a major member of Quantum - the most senior we've encountered - it could be entirely possible that they carry code-names to protect themselves from their own members, and a nod to Hitchcock on the part of the writers ...

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Spoiler

Bond killed Guy Haines or his bodyguard?

[Vauxhall]

Neither, although Bond pushed Haines' bodyguard off the roof of the opera onto Greene's car, where he was shot and killed by Greene's driver.

[AgentBentley]

I'm also growing into a 'fan' of Mr.White. And he doesn't need a white cat on his lap to make him interesting.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

I've seen the film. Yeah, I remember that Bond pushed someone out of a balcony, but I didn't remember if it was Haines or his bodyguard. I've found out today it's his bodyguard.

[Blonde Bond]

Very interesting. So it seems the original plan for the ending was for Bond to head to Guy Haines' estate in the English countryside, where he also happens across Mr White.

I wonder how that would have played out? There are 2 pics floating around of this deleted scene. Perhaps Bond shows up and thinks he has the drop on Haines only to have White sitting in the corner not unlike Craig was lying in wait for Dryden at the beginning of CR. And it would have ended with White saying something like, Mr Bond, We need to talk... and then cut to black. I could have seen that happening but that yet again force them in to picking up right where they left off yet again. In the end I feel most cuts are usually for the best but I'm happy we'll be able to at least find what this was with DVD release, fingers crossed!

I really do like how White is shaping up to be a really interesting and truly classic villain. This is one of the few times I'm glad they didn't kill off a villain. I usually like to see them meet unhappy ends. lol. Thinking back to that shot of White from the deleted scene , does anyones else get a kinda dark mirror vibe with White? I don't think they should make White be the head of Quantum but it would be interesting if he was their own top operative or 007 if you will. An "anti-Bond" of sorts. So many possibilities I hope White and Quantum are back in Bond 23. I want a quantum trilogy.

I hope he gets to say these immortal lines; "James.... *heavy breathing* I am your father."

Then at the end of the 'Quantum' story arch he should die into Bond's arms as a redeemed man, after receiving deadly shock from the head of Quantum when he had thrown him into a long bottomless shaft. The head of Quantum should be played by some British chap, who's in a urgent need of some face cream and lotions.

[Captain Tightpants]

Very interesting. So it seems the original plan for the ending was for Bond to head to Guy Haines' estate in the English countryside, where he also happens across Mr White.

I wonder how that would have played out? There are 2 pics floating around of this deleted scene. Perhaps Bond shows up and thinks he has the drop on Haines only to have White sitting in the corner not unlike Craig was lying in wait for Dryden at the beginning of CR. And it would have ended with White saying something like, Mr Bond, We need to talk... and then cut to black. I could have seen that happening but that yet again force them in to picking up right where they left off yet again. In the end I feel most cuts are usually for the best but I'm happy we'll be able to at least find what this was with DVD release, fingers crossed!

I really do like how White is shaping up to be a really interesting and truly classic villain. This is one of the few times I'm glad they didn't kill off a villain. I usually like to see them meet unhappy ends. lol. Thinking back to that shot of White from the deleted scene , does anyones else get a kinda dark mirror vibe with White? I don't think they should make White be the head of Quantum but it would be interesting if he was their own top operative or 007 if you will. An "anti-Bond" of sorts. So many possibilities I hope White and Quantum are back in Bond 23. I want a quantum trilogy.

You might just get your wish ...

Spoiler

Someone posted an account of what happened in the cut ending, and apparently it saw Bond dispatch White once and for all.

But since it's been cut, it's evidently not included and could be reversed for BOND 23.

[Gobi-1]

I'm glad they cut the Guy Haines ending because I think it would have confused the audience as to who Haines was. It's better to pick that thread up in Bond 23 when it can be explained fully instead of tacking it on to the end of QoS.

[00Twelve]

Not only would it have added a useless twist to a minimally consequential character [Haines], it would have totally undermined Bond's development as a professional. It's very significant that Bond didn't kill Yusef but left him alive so that M could extract info from him about "the big picture." That's a big part of what he learned in these two films.

[Cody]

With both Yusef's apartment and Haines' estate, it would've been awkward to have two "dwelling infiltrations" back-to-back. The ending is perfect as is.

I look forward to seeing more Mr. White in the future.

Could Guy Haines be a code-name within Quantum? I Googled it just to see wat I got, and as it turn out, Guy Haines is the name of a major character in Strangers on a Train.

I think Haggis was just in a referencing mood when he was coming up with names. Guy Haines, Strawberry Fields, Elvis...

[Single-O-Seven]

Very interesting. So it seems the original plan for the ending was for Bond to head to Guy Haines' estate in the English countryside, where he also happens across Mr White.

I wonder how that would have played out? There are 2 pics floating around of this deleted scene. Perhaps Bond shows up and thinks he has the drop on Haines only to have White sitting in the corner not unlike Craig was lying in wait for Dryden at the beginning of CR. And it would have ended with White saying something like, Mr Bond, We need to talk... and then cut to black. I could have seen that happening but that yet again force them in to picking up right where they left off yet again. In the end I feel most cuts are usually for the best but I'm happy we'll be able to at least find what this was with DVD release, fingers crossed!

I really do like how White is shaping up to be a really interesting and truly classic villain. This is one of the few times I'm glad they didn't kill off a villain. I usually like to see them meet unhappy ends. lol. Thinking back to that shot of White from the deleted scene , does anyones else get a kinda dark mirror vibe with White? I don't think they should make White be the head of Quantum but it would be interesting if he was their own top operative or 007 if you will. An "anti-Bond" of sorts. So many possibilities I hope White and Quantum are back in Bond 23. I want a quantum trilogy.

I hope he gets to say these immortal lines; "James.... *heavy breathing* I am your father."

Then at the end of the 'Quantum' story arch he should die into Bond's arms as a redeemed man, after receiving deadly shock from the head of Quantum when he had thrown him into a long bottomless shaft. The head of Quantum should be played by some British chap, who's in a urgent need of some face cream and lotions.

This would be a great ending. And while the world celebrates the fall of Quantum, Bond sits alone in the woods, watching the pyre on to which he has placed his father (Mr. White) consume the body. He then turns and sees the smiling ghosts of a
redeemed White, Vesper, and Fields. All this, of course, after he finds out Camille was his sister all-along, and that she, too, can now train to become a Double-O knight.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well it's not what was implied in the IMDB YOLT review, which I still think was genuine that's where the idea comes from. It also told about Camille dying, which isn't in the movie, but yet, if you look at the ending of the movie, you can clearly see something is wrong, Camille is told off screen to "stay there" and Bond deals with Greene alone, leaving her in a place that was crawling with bad guys... And then he gets her back in the car... makes no sense, except if you take into account that they shot two different versions stitched together in the editing suite. It's obvious the movie was in total chaos and that they shot several ways a few scenes, I'm certain that the Bond shot ending was genuine (if not, why would people ask if it is the final one when leaving the theater).

I think that the film released is not the real film. It was fan fiction cobbled together while the real QOS will never be released and was only intended to screen once for an IMDB review.

[D. Bond]

This might have already been mentioned but if you look in the booklet of the Quantum of Solace Soundtrack there's a small image of Mr. White holding a gun pointed at somebody.