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[Mister E]

Do you actually listen to any Bond themes in your spare time? Do you have Goldeneye on your iPod as something you like to listen to while you work out/drive?

For me, there is a world of difference between what I enjoy as a Bond titles song and what I partake of in my private life. I call “Nobody Does It Better” my favorite Bond theme, but shoot me now if that’s what I resort to playing at home.

Um, yes. I really can't be the only one. I have GF, GE, FYEO, AVTAK, Nobody Does it Better, and both versions of Never Say Never Again on my computer. I also have DAF,LALD, MR, OHMSS, LALD, All Time High, and TLD, on there respective soundtracks. The song has be good enough for me to listen to, not just work with the title sequences. I don't listen to Bond music all the time but I certainly do listen to it.

[Double-0-7]

They really have to cut between 02:25 to 3:30 than it can work for the TS.

I agree, cut out some of the stuff that doesn't seem to fit any where with the rest of the song and it would get dramatically better. I think editing could take this from somewhere below average up to the 'I like it' category for me.

I would edit out from around 2:12 through 2:56, with another bit of clean-up needed around 3:33 - 3:44.

I guess I need to poke around for an mp3 editor and see if that makes any sense!

[Publius]

That's a joke right ? That was purely modern day generic rock which is why it was such a mundane song.

It doesn't sound like anything that was being released at the time. It is generic rock, certainly not "of the moment" or even a step ahead. That was my point.

Ugh, I don't know what else to you anymore. You think bland equals not dated and you take the songs that have flavor and call them dated or soon to be dated at the time. You have a warped sense of taste in music.

The return of the troll. Do me a favor, don't ever bother replying to me again if all you're going to do is insult me. I think you're posting style would fit in better at a certain other Bond site.

[Mister E]

It doesn't sound like anything that was being released at the time. It is generic rock, certainly not "of the moment" or even a step ahead. That was my point.

That really sounds like bland to me when you describe it those terms.

The return of the troll. Do me a favor, don't ever bother replying to me again if all you're going to do is insult me. I think you're posting style would fit in better at a certain other Bond site.

I'm just making an observation, that's all. I don't think I really insulted you.

[Glockenspiel]

Well...
Let's face it...
We all love James Bond here...
BUT...
This song is really bad, and I'm really upset because the film itself seems great.
May this song will work fine with the titles, but for the rest...
It's too "dry" and too "un-melodic", not memorable at all.
I'm sure it'll not grow on me (whereas Die Another Day did, for instance).
And the mix of the 2 singers is, obviously, awful.
Just one hope : maybe the film will actually feature another version of the song.
It's a bad choice and a bad song.
(Sorry for my english, which is quite bad too).

[Dikko Henderson]

That made Madonna's song sound GREAT!!! Worst Bond song EVER!!!

[Publius]

That really sounds like bland to me when you describe it those terms.

Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

I'm just making an observation, that's all.

You can agree to disagree with me, you can continue to debate me, or you can just not reply to me. But don't proclaim that I have a "warped sense of taste in music" or any BS like that. Leave the grade school antics out of this, thank you very much.

[Orion]

I hate how the Newsbeat has used their comments section to justify reaction as mixed, if you went by everything that posted on the net you'd honestly believe everything in the world was absolute . Oh how i miss the days when people would keep opinions to themselves rather than letting the world and his dog know them

Edited by Orion, 18 September 2008 - 10:31 PM.

[bnz]

This is different and i fully agree with the people a few pages earlier. The overall sound is good, the ideas are good, but they have mixed too many decent ideas together in way that it doesn't work. In addition to that, the almost pseudo-rap is horrible and i can't stand Alicia Keys trying to sing out of her range. It just sounds too forced. The good news is that the movie versions are shortened most of the time. If they find someone decent to cut that song, he might be able to make it a little more coherent at least.

[Mister E]

Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Modern day generic rock is bland, that's what I am saying.

]You can agree to disagree with me, you can continue to debate me, or you can just not reply to me. But don't proclaim that I have a "warped sense of taste in music" or any BS like that. Leave the grade school antics out of this, thank you very much.

Not grade school antics, I could be speaking in the obnoxious internet slang. I think you have a warped sense of taste in music because you declared the older Bond songs dated when they came out or close to it. Then you say ATWD is something that the mainstream won't listen to and isn't dated when it clearly is just a knee-jerk "flavour of the month" song. This song is a result of the coporation of two popular artists of the time and they simply put the two sounds together and steal some cues from some older Bond songs and you call that "different".

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I hate how the Newsbeat has used their comments section to justify reaction as mixed

If you just look at our poll, I'd say mixed is a fair assessment.

I'm disappointed with it. The song has potential but it's just too dirty for me...the wall of sound concept can be great but this just doesn't work all the way through. Especially with the duet where it seems less like White and Keys are harmonizing than viciously fighting one another; there's a lot of clutter.

That said, around the 3 minute mark - the song seems to drastically change (pretty sure its intentional) and everything becomes much more crisp and balanced. If the rest of the song were more like that 30 seconds or so, I'd be happier with it.

Just like YKMN was revised slightly after the initial 'release', I'm hoping this song is similarly cleaned up and hoping even harder for a title sequence that's on par with Casino Royale.

[quantumofsolace]

It's not doing well on the poll so far. For a fan site the score is extremely low.

[Orion]

Thats my point, nothing on the net is definitly good or definitly bad, theres such a wide range of people its easy to find blatant slagging off, or unalderated praise for anything, if you're going to report a news story journalists shouldnt be allowed to quote people in internet forums because then they are quite clearly being bias, as you can find opinions for both sides, and then printing it as fact. Case and point- we all hated Daniel Craig before Casino Royale was released and wanted to boycott the film, nowhere near true, but because the press used the net to find some idiots who actually thought that, they could back up their bull[censored] with quotes.


rant over. Sorry. It just bugs me when journalists do that.

[DaveBond21]

I like it! They've done a good job with this.

It's a good song. Very Bondian, I agree with those that it begins with echoes of You Know my Name, then it sounds like Live and Let Die sung in the Fillet of Soul, and there are hints of TMWTGG too.

Nice jazzy sounds, good guitar riffs and some FYEO piano.

I think it's going to sound fantastic when it's more orchestrated and up there on the big screen accompanying the main titles.

[The Dove]

I think that the main issue is that EON threw us a HUGE curve ball of a song in Another Way To Die, so that a lot of people are disappointed that its not what we are used to in a Bond theme.. Its growing on me, albeit slowly, but a couple of things give me hope for it.. A. Its got the perfect dark and gritty tone for the movie and I can't wait for the titles.. and B. I listened to Die Another Day, You Know My Name and Another Way To Die and already the new theme is starting to feel like it fits in in the progression of title songs. So I have hope..its by no means the all time greatest, or even the worst Bond title song but I am certainly liking so far.

[Orion]

It's not doing well on the poll so far. For a fan site the score is extremely low.

how is over 50% positive extremly low.

Start a poll asking how many feel All Time High is the best Bond song, THAT would extremly low.

[MR. BOND 93]

I downloaded real player, but it still tells me "To play Jo Whiley: 18/09/2008 please first install Real Player."

Could someone tell me what to do here?

[DaveBond21]

I don't think as many people are driven to comment on things they like as people who do to complain, so internet polls are always wishy-washy to me.

It's funny that some people are criticising it for being to old rock, and others for sounding too modern and different!

[quantumofsolace]

It's not doing well on the poll so far. For a fan site the score is extremely low.

how is over 50% positive extremly low.

Start a poll asking how many feel All Time High is the best Bond song, THAT would extremly low.

Usually when something major and new is released on one of these fan forums the polls are a lot more positive than this, even if the film/episode/season/song etc is poor. What we have is not good from fandom.

[Mister E]

I don't think as many people are driven to comment on things they like as people who do to complain, so internet polls are always wishy-washy to me.

It's funny that some people are criticising it for being to old rock, and others for sounding too modern and different!

If it sounded different, I would like it.

[Orion]

I don't think as many people are driven to comment on things they like as people who do to complain, so internet polls are always wishy-washy to me.

It's funny that some people are criticising it for being to old rock, and others for sounding too modern and different!

Well thats easy explained

It's not a John Barry song sung by Shirley Bassey so it must be crap

Usually when something major and new is released on one of these fan forums the polls are a lot more positive than this, even if the film/episode/season/song etc is poor. What we have is not good from fandom.

Star Wars episode 1, Star Wars Episode 2, Pierce Brosnan

fandom HATE all new versions what they're supposedly fans of.

Edited by Orion, 18 September 2008 - 11:02 PM.

[DaveBond21]

i like it. i think.


remember, the leaked version of YKMN wasn't the exact version of the song used in the titles, so i think it will likely be cleaned up a bit before the film.

Yes, it will sound different. I am sure it will sound amazing when slotted into the movie itself and as usual will make the hairs on the back of the neck stand on end, as I realise that, as we see...

And Judi Dench as M

....yes, we are watching a new Bond movie!!!!

Y'know, I like it. I really like it. It's Bondian, and is considerably more contemporary and culturally relevant than a lot of the Bond songs we've had recently.

I agree, although I also loved YKMN. I am one happy chappy this Friday morning!

[NMMan]

I downloaded real player, but it still tells me "To play Jo Whiley: 18/09/2008 please first install Real Player."

Could someone tell me what to do here?

Install RealPlayer from real.com, then you should be able to listen to the stream.

[The Number]

I'm horrified that this even passes as a song. I was unsure about YNMN when I first heard it but the second time I knew it was very good. Still love listening to it. I played a couple of munutes of this scatter brained jumble and turned it off. There is absolutely no flow to this song. Oh god I can't believe I've had to write this!! I was so looking forward to it. Who knows what the soundtrack will be like now? Rubbish!

Edited by The Number, 18 September 2008 - 11:06 PM.

[DaveBond21]

I'm surprised nobody's commented on a point I made back in Post #81, and that's that the entire melody of the song was taken directly from "Casino Royale," note for note! Compare the opening of AWTD with the 1:42 mark of "Blunt Instrument."

Homage or rip off?

Like YKMN it features hints to the Bond theme chords. This simply does the same. Most of the Bond themes have this element to them. I think they almost have to have it.

[Mister E]

Star Wars episode 1, Star Wars Episode 2, Pierce Brosnan

fandom HATE all new versions what they're supposedly fans of.

I hated those because they were awful.

[DaveBond21]

As much as I dig it, I think an edit of the song would play better, cutting out some of the more awkward breaks in the song and thereby creating a more streamlined flow throughout.

Maybe some of the CBners more adept at music editing could attempt it.

Well, this will actually happen, because the titles sequence will be shorter.

[Orion]

Star Wars episode 1, Star Wars Episode 2, Pierce Brosnan

fandom HATE all new versions what they're supposedly fans of.

I hated those because they were awful.

the Star wars prequals arent that bad, and how was Pierce awful, we're only able to have this arguement because Pierce Brosnan was actually Very good in the role and thus the series has been able to continue.

[CamExam]

Keys just flat out ruined the song! Im so pissed, this could of been so much better!!!

AWTD is a piece of crap compared to YKMN

[Mister E]

the Star wars prequals arent that bad,

I am not getting into long debate about this but I will comment. All the Star Wars Prequels had bad acting, poorly written stories, and just wanted to give excuses for basically all the characters to meet each other at some point.

and how was Pierce awful,we're only able to have this arguement because Pierce Brosnan was actually Very good in the role and thus the series has been able to continue.

You realize that makes no sense. Just because he was popular it MUST mean he was very good ? He was a logo that just followed all the old Bond cliches.