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[The Dove]

I went hunting through the archives and found my initial response to hearing "You Know My Name" from two years ago:

" honestly haven't heard the entire song yet (I've only heard a little bit of it..gonna wait untill its fully legal to listen to it online). But my initial reaction to the chorus that I did hear...

*hmmm chewing it over like a new food I've never tried before... * Ptoo!! spits it out* * trying it again, this time with a condiment to disguise the taste! *gulp!!* managed to swallow it down!! * getting nauseous, running to the bathroon, where's the Pepto Bismol??!! lol* Needs more condiments like ketchup or BBQ sauce, which may come when I finally hear the whole tune!! lol

Honestly, I'm middle of the road about it.. It has potential, and is certainly WAY BETTER than Die Another Day!.. But I hate Chris Cornell's screaming at the end.. sounds like he had an unfortunate encounter with Le Chiffre's carpet beater!! lol

It may yet turn out to be good, depending on how it fits in with the film and what the entire song is like. "

How funny this is.. I love YKMN now and I guess if I apply the same analogy to Another Way To Die...

*Loves the inital taste of the food (i.e. the piano opening chords and such) * *After a few bites, I am still looking for a select vintage wine (Bollinger RD perhaps?)to compliment the meal and turn it into a culinary master piece *.. That wine should be the title sequence and overall David Arnold score..

[ckoch]

I can agree that it is easy to ride the bandwagon of negative criticism however I would like to give my initial gut thoughts after hearing AWTD about 10 times now:

1) sounds a lot like a James Bond video game opening titles

2) if they wanted to incorporate strong guitar riffs in the track I think they definately accomplished that

3) it is very cacophonous sounding in that is is a little harsh on the ears

4) I can appreciate the fact that Babs and Mickey G want to keep pushing the boundaries of a 45 year plus series musically however this feels way too MTVish for my liking whereas you contrast it with Cornell's YKMN which sounds classier than this effort from White and Keys.

Anyways, I wish Arnold luck with incorporating this one into the score for QOS. He did a great job with YKMN but I think he has his work cut out for himself with this one.

I can't see this one growing on me at all!

[Qwerty]

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[00Kevin]

umm, it's alright. it will probubly grow on me but right now i think this song is just so random that at first listen i can't get into it. it's going to take some listening before i can appreciate it. but for sure it's not the best bond song ever

on an unrelated note, right after it they played the ting ting's "shut up and let me go" which i never heard before because I live in cali, and i think i may have a new favorite song. YAY!

[bond 16.05.72]

Sorry, but your wrong. GOLDFINGER was anything but a subtle song, it's dramatic and classy. The energy in her voice hit those notes perfectly and works well with Barry's music, it's called good singing. Any other approach would have been incorrect.

Those are different songs. To take the same approach in GF would have made no sense. Especially not the MR way which was her most subdued Bond yet and I found it to be her poorest.

Uh oh, the Bond police are after me.

Look, disagree all you want, but you're not right. For someone who brings a valuable insight to many discussions around here, you have a nasty habit of veering into troll behavior. For your own good, stop.

Anyway, I'm not asking for a performance as subdued as she gave in DAF or MR, but she didn't have to go as over-the-top as she did. She had a lot of energy, she hit the notes, and so on... but her voice was just off. One can be bombastic without being irritating.

I think this last comment explains perfectly why you liked AWTD so much...

We get it, you don't like the song. I find it humorous that several people who agree with you feel the need to troll incessantly and put others down. Yes, I've seen some proponents of the song do it too, but it seems one "side" is far more bitter than the other.

And why are so many of those who hate the song... angry? You don't like it, okay. Move on. The world keeps on spinning.

I agree I'd rather listen to the instrumental of GF, I find the more subtle take on DAF & MR better than her legendary GF performance.

I don't like Tom Jones vocal that much on TB and Barry's instrumental is so much better without Jones hollering all over it.

The hate for this is incredible, it's nowhere the worst song ever, if Noel Gallagher had done it wouldhave been awful, he hasn't wrote a decent tune in ages and someone wrote in another thread that Be Here Now was good, BHN is utter rubbish over produced wall of noise.

DAD was a bad song but it had energy, TND & TWINE were just plain dreary, and the lyrics in AWTD are silly but they don't reach the depths of "I'm in a puddle on the floor"

I don't believe the word blinger appears in the song and would be nice if people could distinguish what Hip Hop is by making stupid comments like it sounds hip hop like. Listen to some Hip Hop before you come out with such narrow minded rubbish.

White's song has a R'N'B flavour to it but not Hip Hop. I like it more and more I hear it and think it's better than all the Brozzers and a few of the the previous tunes, it reminds me of LALD mostly, I think that is what White was trying to evoke.

It's a big number to open the film after what is likely to be a cracking PTS.

[Harmsway]

Anyways, I wish Arnold luck with incorporating this one into the score for QOS. He did a great job with YKMN but I think he has his work cut out for himself with this one.

I think it's probably going to be the case that "Another Way to Die" won't feature in the score at all.

[ckoch]

Anyways, I wish Arnold luck with incorporating this one into the score for QOS. He did a great job with YKMN but I think he has his work cut out for himself with this one.

I think it's probably going to be the case that "Another Way to Die" won't feature in the score at all.

Let's hope so!

[Marquis]

Like the films, the Bond themes have been pretty hit and miss over the years but this is hands-down the worst of the bunch. I've listened to it over a dozen times now and it just gets worse with each listen. There are no killer hooks, the chorus is completely forgettable and the annoying RNB/Bling vibe (presumably aimed at the MTV Cribs brigade) couldn't be less-Bondian if it tried. Absolutely ing atrocious.

Edited by Marquis, 18 September 2008 - 07:59 PM.

[Publius]

Jesus Publius, all songs date but some worse then others. AWTD will be dated far sooner then the classics.

I doubt it, so I guess we're at a standstill. If I was around for the first dozen or so Bond songs, I'm sure I'd think some of them sounded dated already or were going to very soon. Hell, YKMN, one of my favorites, didn't even sound like anything from the 21st century. AWTD sounds very contemporary to me, even if it's not exactly mainstream.

You must listen to different radio stations or you must be in denial. This is exactly what is loved by the kids today. It's not unique or risk taking. For the millionith time, it's two types of styles of popular music put together just for the sake of getting the audiences of each type of music.

Give me an example of what music you think this is like, because I just don't see how it's like any of the top songs of the day. Seriously, I'm looking at the top ten for the week and don't see anything it sounds like. Kids are listening to pop-rock, techno, rap... none of which I hear in this song.

It could well be the world's first schizophrenic movie theme.

Better suited for DAF then?

Don't you mean AVTAK?

[Judo chop]

I agree
The hate for this is incredible, it's nowhere the worst song ever, if Noel Gallagher had done it wouldhave been awful, he hasn't wrote a decent tune in ages and someone wrote in another thread that Be Here Now was good, BHN is utter rubbish over produced wall of noise.

DAD was a bad song but it had energy, TND & TWINE were just plain dreary, and the lyrics in AWTD are silly but they don't reach the depths of "I'm in a puddle on the floor"

I don't believe the word blinger appears in the song and would be nice if people could distinguish what Hip Hop is by making stupid comments like it sounds hip hop like. Listen to some Hip Hop before you come out with such narrow minded rubbish.

White's song has a R'N'B flavour to it but not Hip Hop. I like it more and more I hear it and think it's better than all the Brozzers and a few of the the previous tunes, it reminds me of LALD mostly, I think that is what White was trying to evoke.

It's a big number to open the film after what is likely to be a cracking PTS.

Very sensible.

It could well be the world's first schizophrenic movie theme.

Better suited for DAF then?

Don't you mean AVTAK?

No. I really mean DAF.

[Santa]

It loses it a bit in the middle, around the 2.30 mark. The wailing there is annoying but I like the rest of it.

[dodge]

Of course, as a proper virgin, I haven't listened to it yet. But who'd expect this singer to ever change his stripes? Wail away, Jack. Wail away. I'll bring along my ear muffs and think of better days.

[marktmurphy]

You've pinpointed exactly how I feel. Somewhere within, there's a perfectly acceptable, if safe, song.

You want a safe song; Mister E thinks it's too safe. How are they supposed to please everyone?

I suggest you re-read my post and pay particular atention to the use of the commas. My use of "if safe" in that context did not denote a desire; it was a comment on the song, which I feel is safe in its oh-so careful mission to be cutting-edge.

Oh my goodness- they're playing it safe by being cutting edge i.e playing it unsafe? So in order to please you and not play it safe; they should play it safe and just repeat what they've done before.
Safe is the new unsafe; I must remember that.

My head is spinning.

Anyways, I wish Arnold luck with incorporating this one into the score for QOS. He did a great job with YKMN but I think he has his work cut out for himself with this one.

I think it's probably going to be the case that "Another Way to Die" won't feature in the score at all.

Yes, I'd agree. Not a big shock: I actually think he underused his own YKMN- there's a few brief quotes of it but why no proper full statements? Why not play a big action version of the whole thing under the Miami chase? A good Bond tune wasted in the most part.

[the villain's architect]

After having listened to AWTD ten times (in alteration with YNMN), I end up liking it.
That said, I finally liked Madonna's DAD, too

I guess it's all a question of conditioning, don't you think?

[Mr_Wint]

You've pinpointed exactly how I feel. Somewhere within, there's a perfectly acceptable, if safe, song.

You want a safe song; Mister E thinks it's too safe. How are they supposed to please everyone?

I suggest you re-read my post and pay particular atention to the use of the commas. My use of "if safe" in that context did not denote a desire; it was a comment on the song, which I feel is safe in its oh-so careful mission to be cutting-edge.

Oh my goodness- they're playing it safe by being cutting edge i.e playing it unsafe? So in order to please you and not play it safe; they should play it safe and just repeat what they've done before.
Safe is the new unsafe; I must remember that.

My head is spinning.

I would classify AWTD as "extremely safe". It sounds like everything else these days (maybe less memorable). It would be far more bold to go with a real epic Bondsong as that would show that they have confidence in what they are doing.

Of course, as a proper virgin, I haven't listened to it yet. But who'd expect this singer to ever change his stripes? Wail away, Jack. Wail away. I'll bring along my ear muffs and think of better days.

Maybe you will need a double set of ear muffs for this one. And some for your friends (if you care about them).

[dinovelvet]

BOND THEME SONG FAN REACTION CHECKLIST

-"Worst Bond theme song ever" - check

-Accusations of pandering to "MTV generation" - check

-Parade of "should have been (insert name of other flavour-of-the-week artist)" posts - check

-"My taste in music is superior to your taste in music" argument - check

-"EON don't know what they're doing/are gay/death to Michael G. Wilson etc" - check

-Robert Mugabe - check

[YOLT]

They really have to cut between 02:25 to 3:30 than it can work for the TS.

[Mr_Wint]

BOND THEME SONG FAN REACTION CHECKLIST

-"Worst Bond theme song ever" - check

-Accusations of pandering to "MTV generation" - check

-Parade of "should have been (insert name of other flavour-of-the-week artist)" posts - check

-"My taste in music is superior to your taste in music" argument - check

-"EON don't know what they're doing/are gay/death to Michael G. Wilson etc" - check

-Robert Mugabe - check

-"witty fanboys" - check

[marktmurphy]

I would classify AWTD as "extremely safe". It sounds like everything else these days (maybe less memorable). It would be far more bold to go with a real epic Bondsong as that would show that they have confidence in what they are doing.

It sounds like a Jack White song; not many other songs sound like that unless they're made by the White Stripes (although they never have this big a production) or the Raconteurs. I'd love you to give examples of all the other songs it sounds like.
A real epic Bond song? Like TWINE? That's the epitome of uncreativity and lack of imagination for me. Utterly, utterly super-safe, unexciting and dull.

[Marquis]

BOND THEME SONG FAN REACTION CHECKLIST

-"Worst Bond theme song ever" - check

-Accusations of pandering to "MTV generation" - check

-Parade of "should have been (insert name of other flavour-of-the-week artist)" posts - check

-"My taste in music is superior to your taste in music" argument - check

-"EON don't know what they're doing/are gay/death to Michael G. Wilson etc" - check

-Robert Mugabe - check

-"witty fanboys" - check

-Not so witty fanboys - check

[Publius]

I wonder if the people saying this is music for MTV audiences think the same of Amy Winehouse, because it seems a lot of them also wanted her for the song. And really, the only reason she isn't more of an MTV staple is that she's British.

[Mister E]

Jesus Publius, all songs date but some worse then others. AWTD will be dated far sooner then the classics.

It already sounds dated to me. Cubby Broccoli's mantra was always that Bond films should be set five minutes in the future. AWTD seems to reverse the trend by sounding like it's from five minutes in the past.

Excatly. AWTD is just an excuse to pull in the kids. All the great Bond songs don't feel like they were simply made to be relevent of the times that they were in.

Hell, YKMN, one of my favorites, didn't even sound like anything from the 21st century.

That's a joke right ? That was purely modern day generic rock which is why it was such a mundane song.

If I was around for the first dozen or so Bond songs, I'm sure I'd think some of them sounded dated already or were going to very soon.

Ugh, I don't know what else to you anymore. You think bland equals not dated and you take the songs that have flavor and call them dated or soon to be dated at the time. You have a warped sense of taste in music.

[agian 007]

When I listen it for the first time i can't say that it impressed me.Now after a few times i listen it very carefully I Think that si o.k.not the best or one of the best,neither the worst.Especially in some points it is very similar to L.A.L.D
I was one of the people who put their money for Winehouse but unfortunately we lost the opportunity to have a real hit.I wish to win through and Id rather what she prepares

[avl]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

[Mister E]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

Call me crazy but I'd like a song that would work well just listening on a CD, not just catchy enough to work with the titles.

[avl]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

Call me crazy but I'd like a song that would work well just listening on a CD, not just catchy enough to work with the titles.

why?

[Mister E]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

Call me crazy but I'd like a song that would work well just listening on a CD, not just catchy enough to work with the titles.

why?

Do I really have to explain ?

[avl]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

Call me crazy but I'd like a song that would work well just listening on a CD, not just catchy enough to work with the titles.

why?

Do I really have to explain ?

no,dont bother.

[Judo chop]

The negativity astounds me. Clearly we are a very conservative bunch. The song works, it is catchy enough. It will work well with the title sequence

Call me crazy but I'd like a song that would work well just listening on a CD, not just catchy enough to work with the titles.

why?

Do I really have to explain ?

Do you actually listen to any Bond themes in your spare time? Do you have Goldeneye on your iPod as something you like to listen to while you work out/drive?

For me, there is a world of difference between what I enjoy as a Bond titles song and what I partake of in my private life. I call “Nobody Does It Better” my favorite Bond theme, but shoot me now if that’s what I resort to playing at home.

[Loomis]

For me, there is a world of difference between what I enjoy as a Bond titles song and what I partake of in my private life.

Same here. The only Bond song I actually listen to for pleasure is "You Know My Name", and even then I can go months without putting it on. There are others I won't switch off if they happen to be playing, and I'll usually get a kind of Bond Fan Buzz™ just hearing them during the course of everyday life (e.g. "All Time High" as elevator muzak tends to put a smile on my chops), but the music I partake of in my private life is a million miles away from 007.