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[BlackFire]

Is the real song 4:20?

[Mister E]

But Golfinger was an over the top song, obviously. Anything less would not have worked.

I doubt the song would have lost its power if the volume was dialed down to the level of Tom Jones in TB and if they had told Shirley Bassey to enunciate. Seriously, I think half of my problem with her vocals is that whole "Goald-feengah!" way of saying everything.

Again, the song was meant to be over the top and when it came to that type of song, you would have to cartoon the words you sing, singers did that all the time. It wouldn't have been as effective if it was dialed down. You sing an over the top song in a over the top style.

[trumanlodge89]

i like it. i think.


remember, the leaked version of YKMN wasn't the exact version of the song used in the titles, so i think it will likely be cleaned up a bit before the film.

[Publius]

80 % of how many posts, actually?

A message board does not figure into any real statistic thinking. This is just the 10 to 20 hardcore fans or people who like to write on boards.

Don't forget that when it comes to message boards, the negative always speak more loudly and in greater numbers. 80% harshly negative reaction (presuming that figure is even accurate) could easily be 40% moderately negative reaction in reality. In other words, don't put much stock into online comment pages.

I'm willing to bet that winehouse/ronson did a much better job and are probably laughing their off at how horrible this song is.

I'm laughing for joy that they didn't go with Winehouse and her annoying voice. Who cares about her private life, her singing just leaves a lot to be desired.

Again, the song was meant to be over the top and when it came to that type of song, you would have to cartoon the words you sing, singers did that all the time. It wouldn't have been as effective if it was dialed down. You sing an over the top song in a over the top style.

It's fine to be over-the-top. That's what TB, currently my favorite Bond song, is. My problem is with TOO over-the-top and BAD over-the-top. Different strokes, different folks.

[sorking]

Not to add to the subjective musical back-and-forth, but here's a bit of a write-up along with a look back at the last 21 songs and scores:

http://noisetosignal.../m-is-for-music

[Robinson]

Well, Winehouse has her problems but her musical talent is phenomenal imo and her music style alone is more fitting for any bond movie. There are numerous tracks on her B2B album that could work for pretty much any Bond movie made or yet to be made imo. But, I suppose that doesn't matter right now.

Yeah, I could see how " Me Pumps" would fit into any Bond flick.
The big issue with Winehouse is that her problems are the reason why her potential Bond song could not get made.

Musically, I like AWTD. I said it was funky when it was part of that Coke Zero ad and I still stand by it. That being said, I think Keys should've done it solo or they could've gotten someone with a grittier voice like Mary J Blige or even Siouxie Sioux if you wanna go old school.

I can't wait to hear this song when it accompanies the main titles.

[Mister E]

It's fine to be over-the-top. That's what TB, currently my favorite Bond song, is. My problem is with TOO over-the-top and BAD over-the-top. Different strokes, different folks.

I don't like bad or too over the top either but Bassey and GF work. The lyrics, the vocals, the music, it all just works.

[Harmsway]

Y'know, I like it. I really like it. It's Bondian, and is considerably more contemporary and culturally relevant than a lot of the Bond songs we've had recently.

[doubler83]

It's growing on me.

I can imagine, when it's playing against the opening credits, and people are in the mood to see the new movie on the opening day, there's going to be a lot of foot-stomping in cinemas.

[dee-bee-five]

This new theme song shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the Bassey classics. I don't hate it, although the more I listen to it, the less I like it. But am I alone in finding it terribly dated? It sounds like a corporate lawyer's idea of how to get down with da kids.

[Mister E]

It sounds like a corporate lawyer's idea of how to get down with da kids.

Yup. I bet you for Bond 23, they are going to get:






MC PEE PANTS !!!!!

[Judo chop]

Biggest complaint is the production quality. I hope we aren’t hearing the final product. I thought YKMN was a little harsh on the treble and lacking mid-punch for the sound it was attempting. This one feels even more ‘distant’.

“Memphis Horns” are underused. Big talk, minimal payoff.

Otherwise, I find it at least interesting and actually kinda neat. Good lyrics with a nice rhythmic roll to them, and some great nasty sounding drums.

I really couldn’t care less about the song as a standalone hit. I care much more that Bond continues to bring in popular names (for no other reason than to continually prove his relevance) and that the song works with the titles sequence, which in turn continue to be waaay cool.

[Mr_Wint]

Sorry, but your wrong. GOLDFINGER was anything but a subtle song, it's dramatic and classy. The energy in her voice hit those notes perfectly and works well with Barry's music, it's called good singing. Any other approach would have been incorrect.

Those are different songs. To take the same approach in GF would have made no sense. Especially not the MR way which was her most subdued Bond yet and I found it to be her poorest.

Uh oh, the Bond police are after me.

Look, disagree all you want, but you're not right. For someone who brings a valuable insight to many discussions around here, you have a nasty habit of veering into troll behavior. For your own good, stop.

Anyway, I'm not asking for a performance as subdued as she gave in DAF or MR, but she didn't have to go as over-the-top as she did. She had a lot of energy, she hit the notes, and so on... but her voice was just off. One can be bombastic without being irritating.

I think this last comment explains perfectly why you liked AWTD so much...

We get it, you don't like the song. I find it humorous that several people who agree with you feel the need to troll incessantly and put others down. Yes, I've seen some proponents of the song do it too, but it seems one "side" is far more bitter than the other.

And why are so many of those who hate the song... angry? You don't like it, okay. Move on. The world keeps on spinning.

You are not so perfect yourself. You don't have to mention the word "troll" here. I think some fans can actually hate this song. They are not looking for a reason to upset people.

[zencat]

Glad to finally hear the full version. I think it's decent. Not great. Not terrible.

[Judo chop]

Glad to finally hear the full version. I think it's decent. Not great. Not terrible.

Troll!

[deth]

this sounds a lot better than yesterday's leaked full version... anybody find a way to save it from the broadcast?

[Harmsway]

One thing that's nice about this song is that I could actually imagine it getting some real radio play here in the USA, unlike the last how many Bond songs...

[Mister E]

One thing that's nice about this song is that I could actually imagine it getting some real radio play here in the USA, unlike the last how many Bond songs...

I think that's exactly what the producers were thinking.

[dee-bee-five]

One thing that's nice about this song is that I could actually imagine it getting some real radio play here in the USA, unlike the last how many Bond songs...

And to think I was castigated for having the temerity to suggest the choice of performers was commercial expediency...

[EyesOnly]

Well, it's better than the leaked version. The more I listen to it the more I am liking it (a serious struggle at that)...but, boy, the lyrics seem stupider than usual with this one. There are parts of it that remind me of Alice Coopers failed TMWTGG bond theme.

Edited by EyesOnly, 18 September 2008 - 05:06 PM.

[ImTheMoneypenny]

I finally got to hear the full version. It's grown on me. I like it. Can't stop listening to it. To be honest, I'm not into Keys or White, just not my style really, but I like this song. I enjoy Keys here.

Love it or hate it, it's a bold move. It's gotten the movie publicity, it brings Bond to people (Keys fans, and White fans) who may not have otherwise paid attention.

It won't replace my fave Bond song, but it's now in the top 4.

[Royal Dalton]

Glad to finally hear the full version. I think it's decent. Not great. Not terrible.

Troll!

[[dark]]

Not to add to the subjective musical back-and-forth, but here's a bit of a write-up along with a look back at the last 21 songs and scores:

http://noisetosignal.../m-is-for-music

Excellent piece. I agree with every word of this:

People pounced on Cornell’s terrific song for Casino Royale, after all. Another Way To Die is an even harder track to like on first listen, because it’s so bloody chaotic. It starts with a great hook, then changes completely. Then changes again. It stops and starts in a Live-and-Let-Die-goes-mental style – like two or three very decent Bond themes chopped together.

After a fair few listens I’m very taken with the pieces, but not entirely with the whole thing. There’s a real insistence to the sung tune as it approaches the title line (“A drop in the water, a look in the eye…”) which works a treat. The drums are fab. The guitar stings, too. The isolated piano, the brass…but put it all together and it doesn’t cohere. It actually feels longer than it is. It never lets you settle into the groove.

It’s a song with barbs; it doesn’t want to be held. Which is undoubtedly appropriate to the character and the new movie, but it makes for a tough listen.

[Gabriel]

That song was -awful! Jesus Christ! It doesn't flow at all! Bang bang Bang! Stop! Bang Bang Bang! Stop!. Scream a bit! Incomprehensible lyrics! Are they taking the ing piss! Is this some sort of ing joke?!! I mean, Die Another Day had its issues, but this is the biggest load of wank ever passed off as a Bond tune!

What is it with there not having been a decent Bond tune in 20 years! The only good recent one was Surrender and they were too ing stupid to use it!

'em! Where Bond theme tunes are concerned, I give up!

[Harry Fawkes]

Yep! Thumbs up for me guys. Hints of OHMSS, I'm sure. Love the sound. It's sexy and powerful.

The more I listen to it the more I love it.

The man called Fawkes says 10 out of 10

[Judo chop]

It’s a song with barbs; it doesn’t want to be held. Which is undoubtedly appropriate to the character and the new movie, but it makes for a tough listen.

Babs is singing on it!? Where?!

[Harmsway]

What is it with there not having been a decent Bond tune in 20 years! The only good recent one was Surrender and they were too ing stupid to use it!

Personally, I'd take this crazy song over the mediocre GOLDFINGER pastiche that was "Surrender."

[sorking]

Not to add to the subjective musical back-and-forth, but here's a bit of a write-up along with a look back at the last 21 songs and scores:

http://noisetosignal.../m-is-for-music

Excellent piece. I agree with every word of this:

People pounced on Cornell’s terrific song for Casino Royale, after all. Another Way To Die is an even harder track to like on first listen, because it’s so bloody chaotic. It starts with a great hook, then changes completely. Then changes again. It stops and starts in a Live-and-Let-Die-goes-mental style – like two or three very decent Bond themes chopped together.

After a fair few listens I’m very taken with the pieces, but not entirely with the whole thing. There’s a real insistence to the sung tune as it approaches the title line (“A drop in the water, a look in the eye…”) which works a treat. The drums are fab. The guitar stings, too. The isolated piano, the brass…but put it all together and it doesn’t cohere. It actually feels longer than it is. It never lets you settle into the groove.

It’s a song with barbs; it doesn’t want to be held. Which is undoubtedly appropriate to the character and the new movie, but it makes for a tough listen.

I'm genuinely confused by the idea of anyone agreeing with me about music. But I'm also jolly grateful - thank you!

[The Dove]

Its funny how with all the complaints we seem to be losing sight of the real issue of Quantum of Solace being an awesome Bond flick..regardless of the title song.. I'm waiting for some fool to start up:

www.quantumofsolaceisnotarealbondfilmbecauseanotherwaytodieisaterriblethemesong.
com

[danslittlefinger]

It'll be interesting to hear Winehouse's effort.