599 replies to this topic

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

At least the track will be on the OST. That makes me happy

[JackWade]

Some of you are being awfully ridiculous. Eon has failed us, corporate expediency, the Brosnan era is back... get real. You're all jumping to these conclusions based on a press release about the title song?

Geez. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Wait until you hear the song before jumping to such unfounded conclusions.

[Harmsway]

Don't tell me you're complaining that Arnold doesn't have enough involvement!?

Well, I'm certainly not. I'm bummed that the score is unlikely to feature the title theme woven throughout, but Arnold's no great collaborator for title songs. I'd prefer to have him uninvolved with the title themes.

My personal disappointment comes from the fact that White or Keys aren't, IMO, exciting musicians. They're certain fine choices, but given the great sea of interesting artists to choose from, EON could have done better.

[sorking]

Don't mind the song title. If it works in the context of the music and other lyrics, why change it?

Indifferent to White, but I was indifferent to Cornell too, and I really fell for that song in a big way. Keys is a good vocal choice. And a duet is a great, new idea to bring to the franchise. (Though yes, okay, Radio 1 a parody duet a while back; Edith Bowman digging at the title for no good reason)

My only concern is for the overall score. Arnold's best scores for Bond - IMHO - are the ones that got to fully exploit the title track within the main score. I could hum a half-dozen moments from TND (using Surrender), TWINE and CR that pumped up all the more thanks to this kind of theme use. Whereas DAD I struggle with - the score-only themes didn't impact so hard.

What I'm saying, I guess, is that I hope the song choice was amicable between the makers and the composer of the score. If so, he may feel comfortable using themes from the song within the score - which he does incredible well. For me it makes for a more integrated movie. That it may not go this way disappoints me a little.

[Captain Tightpants]

Don't tell me you're complaining that Arnold doesn't have enough involvement!?

Yes. And the reaction would be the same whoever the composer was.

Jeebus! What does it take to make you people happy around here? You complain that Arnold is no good, but as soon as he's not involved in a part of the score, you complain about that, too!

Don't tell me you're complaining that Arnold doesn't have enough involvement!?

Well, I'm certainly not. I'm bummed that the score is unlikely to feature the title theme woven throughout, but Arnold's no great collaborator for title songs. I'd prefer to have him uninvolved with the title themes.

What exactly is preventing him from incorporating it? Okay, so he wasn't involved in writing it. But White and Keys know the song will be a part of the film in some way; they've signed it over to EON. Surely it can still be worked in ...

[ImTheMoneypenny]

At least the track will be on the OST. That makes me happy

That part I'm happy with as well. Should it turn out I dig the song, I won't have to look all over trying to get my hands on the single, like I had to do with YKMN. My local record stores didn't carry the single so I had to turn to eBay. Anyway, and if I don't like it, no big deal. Like I said I wasn't so sure about YKMN when I first heard it but I ended up loving it so that may just happen with 'Another Way To Die' especially because if I see QoS as much as I did CR in the theatres I'll be hearing it a lot!

[jaguar007]

The song has nothing to do with the quality of the movie. As long as QoS is a good movie, I could care less if the song is not that good. Some of the best songs have gone with the worst movies and visa versa.

While the title is generic, I have no idea how the song will be. When I first heard YKMN, I HATED it (I thought, well at least it is not as bad as DAD), but after hearing it a few more times and seeing with the opening titles - the song grew on me and now it is one of my favorite Bond thenes.

[dinovelvet]

Some of you are being awfully ridiculous. Eon has failed us, corporate expediency, the Brosnan era is back... get real. You're all jumping to these conclusions based on a press release about the title song?

Geez. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Wait until you hear the song before jumping to such unfounded conclusions.

Yup, but its par for the course for Bond fandom these days, isn't it. I mean what exactly does EON have to do to please some people? Last time round, they hired the best Bond actor ever and made the best Bond film ever, and people still condemn every single move they make. Its the same old , nobody's heard this song, but everyone's already made their minds up about it.

[Royal Dalton]

Don't tell me you're complaining that Arnold doesn't have enough involvement!?

Yes. And the reaction would be the same whoever the composer was.

Jeebus! What does it take to make you people happy around here? You complain that Arnold is no good, but as soon as he's not involved in a part of the score, you complain about that, too!

The point of concern is that the composer of the film is not writing the theme tune. In this instance the composer happens to be David Arnold. But the principal would be the same whoever it was.

Remember, we would have had at least one more John Barry Bond score if they hadn't gone down this road in the past.

Makes you wonder why they didn't just name the movie ANOTHER WAY TO DIE.

Don't give them any ideas.

[Blofeld's Cat]

A duet?

Hmmm....

Sounds obvious, but I need to actually hear the song to know if I'll like it or not. No point me really loving the idea or hating it until then.

[Mike00spy]

Some of you are being awfully ridiculous. Eon has failed us, corporate expediency, the Brosnan era is back... get real. You're all jumping to these conclusions based on a press release about the title song?

Geez. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Wait until you hear the song before jumping to such unfounded conclusions.

Yup, but its par for the course for Bond fandom these days, isn't it. I mean what exactly does EON have to do to please some people? Last time round, they hired the best Bond actor ever and made the best Bond film ever, and people still condemn every single move they make. Its the same old , nobody's heard this song, but everyone's already made their minds up about it.

Amen.

[pgram]

Choice of artists and title quite boring...
Will have to wait to listen to it now... you never know...

[Captain Tightpants]

Sounds obvious, but I need to actually hear the song to know if I'll like it or not. No point me really loving the idea or hating it until then.

Sense!

[dinovelvet]

Sounds obvious, but I need to actually hear the song to know if I'll like it or not. No point me really loving the idea or hating it until then.

Sense!

How dare you bring logic and sound reasoning into a Bond discussion! Now, who's starting www.whiteandkeysnotbondthemesong.com ?

[sark]

Some of you are being awfully ridiculous. Eon has failed us, corporate expediency, the Brosnan era is back... get real. You're all jumping to these conclusions based on a press release about the title song?

Geez. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Wait until you hear the song before jumping to such unfounded conclusions.

Yup, but its par for the course for Bond fandom these days, isn't it. I mean what exactly does EON have to do to please some people? Last time round, they hired the best Bond actor ever and made the best Bond film ever, and people still condemn every single move they make. Its the same old , nobody's heard this song, but everyone's already made their minds up about it.

Amen.

I'll second, err, third that. It's quite ridiculous. Half the people on here seem convinced that they could make a better Bond film single-handedly (by that I mean they would write, produce, and direct it).

[Professor Dent]

Seems a little anti-climactic after all the Amy Winehouse hoopla. I'll hold off judgment until I hear the song. I just hope Arnold at least got it worked into the score.

[pgram]

Only interesting trivia is Alicia Keys has released a song called: 'You don't know my name'

[Captain Tightpants]

Bahahahaha, awesome!

Seems a little anti-climactic after all the Amy Winehouse hoopla. I'll hold off judgment until I hear the song. I just hope Arnold at least got it worked into the score.

Meh, I'm glad Winehouse didn't get it. People might think she has the voice, but I surely believe that contracting her would have been a fatal move by EON.

[deth]

I somehow doubt Arnold is involved... he's not mentioned anywhere, like he was for the CR song...

[Leon]

I'll have to wait and see about the song, could be decent. The title is awful though and I am therefore more worried about the lyrics than the musical quality of the song.

[Donovan Mayne-Nicholls]

I wish Arnold had written it so that it could be used throughout the score. Once again, like Die Another Day and Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies, he gets the shaft. To bad they could not have used the movie title as the actual song title. Makes me wonder if from now on, EON will always be using title songs that aren't the same as the title of the movie. God I hope not!

Other than GE, all title songs where the composer hasn't been involved are very weak and I don't expect this one to be the exception. Cornell's collaboration with Arnold was a lot better than fans give it credit and I expect comparison to this one will give it new luster.

[Bondian]

"Another Way To Die". Do we really need yet another song/movie title with 'die' in it?

Like Blofeld's Cat. I'll pass judgement on the song when once heard it.

IMHO. Sounds a little 'old formula' to me.

[Donovan Mayne-Nicholls]

Don't tell me you're complaining that Arnold doesn't have enough involvement!?

Yes. And the reaction would be the same whoever the composer was.

Jeebus! What does it take to make you people happy around here? You complain that Arnold is no good, but as soon as he's not involved in a part of the score, you complain about that, too!

The point of concern is that the composer of the film is not writing the theme tune. In this instance the composer happens to be David Arnold. But the principal would be the same whoever it was.

Remember, we would have had at least one more John Barry Bond score if they hadn't gone down this road in the past.

Makes you wonder why they didn't just name the movie ANOTHER WAY TO DIE.

Don't give them any ideas.

Funny thing is MGM, Columbia et al still think it a great idea to hire an American artist to write/record the title song when the only country they still chart is the UK!

[Captain Tightpants]

I don't know what you think od the magazine, but Rolling Stone ranks Jack White as the seventeenth greatest guitarist of all time. In fact, here's the sixteen they consider better than him:

1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman (Allman Borhers Band)
3. BB King
4. Eric Clapton
5. Robert Johnson
6. Chuck Berry
7. Stevie Ray Vaughn
8. Ry Cooder (Black Flag)
9. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
10. Keith Richards (Rolling Stones)
11. Kirk Hammett (Metallica)
12. Kurt Cobain (Nirvana)
13. Jerry Garcia (Greatful Dead)
14. Jeff Beck
15. Carlos Santana
16. Johnny Ramone (the Ramones)

Seventeenth has to count for something. For reference purposes, here's the full list. Take a lookand see some of the names White beat out ...

[The Dove]

What the ?!! Where's Eddie Van Halen's name??!! Surely he's gotta be in the top five!!

[Bondian]

Just wondering how a duet will work in view of the movie's content. Maybe a kind of nostalgic look back between Bond and Vesper?

It could work, but I'm feeling a ballad coming on.

[DCI_director]

I wonder if the song will sound like a "Bond Song" or if it will just be like a regular main stream song that the studio just wants to get out there for publicity and happens to be on a movie's title sequence. I felt that way with Die Another Day. Hm...only time will tell.

[dinovelvet]

Just wondering how a duet will work in view of the movie's content. Maybe a kind of nostalgic look back between Bond and Vesper?

It could work, but I'm feeling a ballad coming on.

I assumed the male/female duet would tie in to the theme of Fleming's "Quantum of Solace" that has to exist in a relationship between a man and a woman. Or maybe the two of them just made a nice song together and EON liked it, I dunno!

[Fro]

The folks who're saying this is just a "corporate" marriage have no idea how Jack White operates. He pretty much does whatever he wants.

Pretty sure this thing was all Jack White's idea, and given how good of a producer he is (i.e. http://www.metacriti...ta/vanlearrose), it should rock hard.

[Blonde Bond]

Just wondering how a duet will work in view of the movie's content. Maybe a kind of nostalgic look back between Bond and Vesper?

It could work, but I'm feeling a ballad coming on.

It will be Bond's ballad to Vesper et vice versa.
Rock Guitar mixed with some R'n'B rhythm. Mark my words, friends.

(okay, so I'm no psychic. So scratch that. Let's just say that I have a 'hunch' )