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[HildebrandRarity]

Quantum; it's very vague and corporate-sounding. I hope it's the name of their front or something because as an evil organisation name it's a bit... crap.

The investment business world-wide is familiar with George Soros' Quantum Fund which is a hedge fund of considerble note.

George Soros' original claim to fame was betting against the Bank Of England who were trying to prop up Stirling.

Soros shorted the of the pound in the early 1990s when I was a rookie trader and he made a ing massive killing when it fell in value. He "beat" the Bank Of England in the global currency market and has been famous since.

The Quantum Fund is a real animal...based out of a tax haven, The Cayman islands, if memory serves.

[HH007]

we know that Bond and Camille don't actually have a romantic relationship (and that his one fling in the movie is just a brief one-off with Fields).

Do we know that Bond and Camille don't have sex, or is it just that they don't have a romance (although "romance" seems to be a word used incredibly loosely in the context of the Bond flicks)?

From the info I can glean, it appears that 007 may still be getting a bit of rumpy-pumpy - or at least something - with her. Not sure we can count on a faithful previously unused Flemingian element (from MOONRAKER) just yet, although then again the omens do look good.

I bought the USA Today edition this morning and MGW sure makes it sound like the Bond/Camille relationship will be sexless(not necessarily without charm or romance, but basically without physical consumation) which, to me, is also realistic and a somewhat refreshing change of pace.

I agree. This article in general has me very optimistic, not that I wasn't already, but now, like with CR before, I am really looking forward to it. I'm glad they're trying to deliver a movie of CR's quality, as opposed to what I like to call a "throwaway" Bond flick like TND.

[Matt_13]

This is all very cool news. I especially love the fact that they chose the desert location for symbolism rather than just a good looking location to film at. IMO it's touches like these that help make a film all the more enjoyable to watch.

As for QoS turning into a Bourne Ultimatum sort of film, I can sort of see that taking shape, but I think this film will have a good amount of strong dialogue to break up the action scenes so I'm sure this will work out just fine. The pictures look especially promising, in particular the one of Bond in jeans sprinting up the side of the building (with strong music that will probably get the adrenaline going). All in all, I don't see anything that is worthy of a complaint on my end, and I look forward to a teaser trailer hopefully arriving soon.

[Leon]

Wait, so is Bond holding that PPK just for the publicity shot, or will this be Bond's pistol of choice throughout the film? I know which I'm hoping for..

It's his pistol of choice again!

I think Bond will indeed be using the PPK throughout the film, since we caught a glimpse of it during the action scenes on the B-Roll footage. As for the recent development on Craigs Joints going....

That glimpse was from the very same shot, so there's no evidence he uses the PPK for anything more than that moment in the film.

The larger pistol in the other photo looks to be a Colt .45 or Browning. Bond used a PPK in the PTS of Casino Royale and a Browning in the Embassy, so until we get more evidence here there's nothing technically new about this. In the PPK shot it appears to be the same scene as the underground tunnel as he's wearing the same suit - incidentaly the same outfit as he wore in the PTS of CR.

These photos look incredible anyway and the information on the film sounds awesome, I can't wait.

[Loomis]

We've got a thread on it.

Sorry, then. My Bad. Which thread?

I noticed you guessed it on some thread or another the other day, Hildebrand. Was so tempted to tell you.

Which thread, Loomis?

Dunno, but from memory you speculated that the organisation might have "quantum" or "solace" in its title. It was just the other day - check your recent posts and it should soon turn up.

Quantum; it's very vague and corporate-sounding. I hope it's the name of their front or something because as an evil organisation name it's a bit... crap.

The investment business world-wide is familiar with George Soros' Quantum Fund which is a hedge fund of considerble note.

I'd never heard of it, but then I'm not a merchant banker (some would beg to differ, though ). It's pretty cool that Mr White's Mysterious Organisation™ has a name with real world connotations, and fits my pet theory that Quantum (as I guess we can now call it) is made up not of the usual power-crazed Blofeld-type loons, ex-KGB assassins and assorted thugs, but of (even more than usually) unscrupulous members of the world's financial, political and business elites. (In QUANTUM OF SOLACE, isn't one of its members or associates supposed to be

Spoiler

the British Foreign Secretary

?) A sort of ultraviolent Bilderberg Group, in other words.

I also think it would be cool (and realistic) if Bond, over the course of the Craig era and maybe beyond, never quite totally smashes Quantum. One presumes that, like S.P.E.C.T.R.E., it was created as a villainous organisation with staying power.

[Matt_13]

You don't like FRWL, Gravity?

[HH007]

I agree. This article in general has me very optimistic, not that I wasn't already, but now, like with CR before, I am really looking forward to it. I'm glad they're trying to deliver a movie of CR's quality, as opposed to what I like to call a "throwaway" Bond flick like TND.

I'm looking forward to this movie as well; way more than I was looking forward to Casino Royale. I think this film will successfully avoid the sophomore jinx we saw with each Bond actor's 2nd film being their worst; FRWL, TMWTGG, LTK, and TND being among the weaker entries in the series.

FRWL????!!!! One of the weaker entries in the series????!!!!

Sorry, I'm afraid I can't agree with that.

[HH007]

You don't like FRWL, Gravity?

think Lois Maxwell was the best Moneypenny, followed by Caroline Bliss and then waaaaay far off in the distance Samantha Bond (heck, I preferred Villiers over Samantha's "Moneypenny"; I even preferred Pamela Salem as Moneypenny). I prefer Duran Duran and A-ha over Shirley Bassey...preferred Kara Milovy/Natalya Simonova over Pussy Galore/Plenty O'Toole (I like the brainier, more romantic Bond Girls).

Well, I guess Bond fans come in many shapes, sizes, and views. I never liked Samantha Bond's Moneypenny. I also prefer the brainier Bond girls to the bimbos (especially in the case of Denise Richards, who was a bimbo posing as brainy).

[AngryPolarBear]

Can someone explain why Greene is buying a piece of desert to control South America's water supplies?

[RivenWinner]

Wow, great article, filled with tons of juicy tidbits. So far, I'm liking what I hear. I can't really complain about anything as of yet. I can't believe I never even thought about water being the resource. makes a lot of sense now, because water rights issues and such have been in the news recently, especially in South America.

For those that care, the UN recently (and surprisingly) crossed 'access to water' off the list of basic, natural human rights that all humans are in entitled to. This is very disturbing and raises many, many questions and problems that not many in the media are talking about at all.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Great pics! Love the one with Fields.

[HildebrandRarity]

Can someone explain why Greene is buying a piece of desert to control South America's water supplies?

The following thread speculates what natural resource is the subject of control:

http://debrief.comma...p...4915&st=120

Perhaps there is a huge water table under Bolivia?

[doublenoughtspy]

Can someone explain why Greene is buying a piece of desert to control South America's water supplies?

Aquafiers aren't usually on the surface. You can have one area of land that if you dig deep enough can tap into another area's water supply.

Take a look at this map of Florida - (Florida is slightly larger than all of England)



As you can see - land near Tallahassee shares the same aquifer as the land way down in Tampa & Orlando.

[Navy007Fan]

Can someone explain why Greene is buying a piece of desert to control South America's water supplies?

I'm sure we'll find out in November.

[Eddie Burns]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Very excited now. The character arc is there, the supporting characters are interesting and probably serve a huge purpose to the plot and Bond himself. And most importantly, the whole morality/humanity issue is there, which leads me to speculate about Bond and Mathis having 'that' discussion (or maybe Felix instead?) that occurred in the novel. Or at least a variation of it.

I wasn't so sure before but now i'm 85% positive that this movie will top CR. And I think people are worrying too much about the action in this one. I'm expecting action in the shape of the stairwell scene in CR sprinkled over the course of the movie. That is...short...quick...pulsating action.

Now I can't wait...

[Daddy Bond]

I was just about to say - surprised no one had picked up on that yet. I rather like the P99, hopefully his PPK throwback is temporary.

The PPK is still a good, relaible gun with enough stopping power and it's a perfect size - not too small, not too big.

[HH007]

I wasn't so sure before but now i'm 85% positive that this movie will top CR.

That's a bold statement.

It would be great if you're right, but all I'm hoping for is a movie that's as good as CR. That would make me very happy.

[JimmyBond]

I wasn't so sure before but now i'm 85% positive that this movie will top CR.

That's a bold statement.

It would be great if you're right, but all I'm hoping for is a movie that's as good as CR. That would make me very happy.

I predict that many people will put CR above QoS simply for the fact that CR will have less action than this film, despite the fact that it appears the action in this film will be there to enhance the narrative rather than just there for the sake of being there.

[Captain Tightpants]

Wow. That sounds fantastic! QOS sounds like it's going to be pure class and in no way a run of the mill Bond adventure. I was surprised by how much was revealed in that article. The role of Camille has me very intrigued now. Also, the poster who put up the links to the photos from the article somehow missed my favorite:

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

Dan is making Bond look amazingly badass there.

Bond in jeans? at last i have enought suits

It looks a little bit forced to have Bond in sunglasses during the action. Not promising at all.

Yeah, but ... he's out in the middle of the desert. The desert. Kind of makes sense to be wearing shades out there.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Wonder how Bond will bring this name up when trying to make his adversaries sweat. I'm thinking of the Bond and Largo scene in the casino in TB.

"Yes, I detected a quantum of defeat at your shoulder..."

It seems Greene will be the Largo to Camille's Domino; somebody's taking advantage of Kevin McClory's passing, eh?

[Loomis]

And the QUANTUM OF SOLACE news just keeps rollin' in.

Although the following is so obviously a (late) April Fool's gag that---- well, just check it out for yourself. May be true.... but almost certainly isn't. Still, it looks as though this time round 007 won't be having much luck bedding the Bond girl, so the filmmakers are clearly in a demolishing-people's-preconceptions-of-James-Bond kinda mood. Make of it what you will.

http://entertainment...ght-040408.html

[Harmsway]

That's a riot. Nothing like Contact Music being cited as a source to inspire faith in the story.

[Double-0-7]

Wait, so is Bond holding that PPK just for the publicity shot, or will this be Bond's pistol of choice throughout the film? I know which I'm hoping for..

It's his pistol of choice again!

We know Bond tends to use a number of guns throughout a movie - usually his own, but whatever he picks up is usually good enough.

I hope we get to see some of the old PPK, at least it fits under a jacket unlike that P99.

[dodge]

Some interesting stuff in the article, but I'm underwhelmed by the suggestions of lex sex and more brooding.

[Harmsway]

Some interesting stuff in the article, but I'm underwhelmed by the suggestions of lex sex and more brooding.

Why?

Personally, I find that Bond is going to be less sexed one of the most promising elements of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. It makes a lot of sense following CASINO ROYALE. And anyway, Fleming's Bond was never quite as sexed as his cinematic counterpart.

[Loomis]

Some interesting stuff in the article, but I'm underwhelmed by the suggestions of lex sex and more brooding.

Why?

Personally, I find that Bond is going to be less sexed one of the most promising elements of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. Fleming's Bond was never quite as sexed as his cinematic counterpart, and it especially makes sense in the context of continuing his character.

Well, I guess we can rule out a version of Fleming's YOLT ending that involves Bond getting a Kissy Suzuki equivalent up the duff.

I think this no-nookie thing is very encouraging news. The plot explanation for it, I suspect, is that Bond is willing enough to have mindless one-night stands with the likes of Fields, but isn't over Vesper yet and so refrains from getting involved with someone he feels he might actually fall for, e.g. Camille. Which would, of course, differ from MOONRAKER, which suggests that Bond would be only too happy to pursue something with Gala Brand, but the sticking point is that she's engaged.

And I'm absolutely fascinated by how Quantum will be portrayed - hopefully it'll do for SPECTRE and SPECTRE equivalents what Daniel Craig does for James Bond. I hope that it won't just be treated as a sort of McGuffin organisation that just does whatever it does without much explanation, for I think that the concept has a thrillingly realistic tang about it - you could just about believe that such an outfit might exist (heck, plenty of conspiracy theorists out there do believe that such organisations are real!). At the same time, though, here's hoping that enough mystery about Quantum will be preserved for BOND 23 and beyond.

[kneelbeforezod]

Haggis? Who cares? This is an Eon production and Haggis is only one employee out of many. Haggis does not hold any cards with respect to Bond; it's not his film. It's Eon's film...Craig's film...Marc Forster's film. In that order!

Ahhhh more pointless belittling of Haggis... yeah, he's no more important than a gaffer's assistant, he only co-wrote the ing thing

[craigbegins]

Why do so many people seem to hate Haggis? First it's Purvis & Wade, then Haggis comes on board and he gets more of the same abuse. Some people maybe aren't happy with the changes that he made to Casino Royale, but we'll never know how a solo Purvis & Wade CR would have tunred out.. and I for one am very happy with the one that we do have, and his involvement in the franchise is a very big plus IMO. So he made a comment that suggests that he doesn't like the QoS title.. so what? It doesn't mean that he gave any less to the project than he would if he had loved the title.

[Quantumofsolace007]

A couple of points I wanna make


First the postive
1. THANK GOD they didn't bring back spectre that would surely have brought laughs and the fracnhise would of had a lot of problems

2. I love the name it's a cool name Quantum. Cool really cool

3. The photos look awesome

Now what worries me

4. Camille and Bond's relationship has me worried somewhat. UI know where it came from (I've read all of Fleming's novels) but we'll see how this devlops.

5. In the article Wislon says they will go back possibly to one off bond adventures for bond 23. That worries me considerably i wanna see Quantum devlop over a few films. I wouldn't mind it if bond 23 is standalone then they bring back Quantum, bbut i'd prefer Quantum to last for a few films (and i'd like them to have fleming titles)

[HildebrandRarity]

Why do so many people seem to hate Haggis? ... So he made a comment that suggests that he doesn't like the QoS title.. so what?

No one hates Haggis. He's a fine addition to the franchise. He adds flair and critical cachet to the production. BUT this is not his baby. I merely said that this is Eon's film first and foremost, then Craig's film, then Marc Forster film. In that order. Am I wrong? I mean he was involved in the film from July '07 to November '07. Since then all we've heard from him is that it wasn't his title (duh!)and he didn't know what it meant (paraphrasing...but we can dig up the quote if everyone wants to).

Today's exciting news courtesy of USA Today is not about Paul Haggis. Let's just leave it at that, shall we?