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[Marketto007]

The Sun has some new Pics too..

The Sun "QoS" 01
The Sun "QoS" 02
The Sun "QoS" 03
The Sun "QoS" 03

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[Jackanaples]

Wow. That sounds fantastic! QOS sounds like it's going to be pure class and in no way a run of the mill Bond adventure. I was surprised by how much was revealed in that article. The role of Camille has me very intrigued now. Also, the poster who put up the links to the photos from the article somehow missed my favorite:

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

Dan is making Bond look amazingly badass there.

[zencat]

Yep, I agree. This wave of info has really made the movie snap into focus for me and I'm very excited. The organization name works great...the natural resource is perfect (nothing more precious)...the pics of Daniel in action look amazing...and the the PPK is back, baby! This is Bond, and maybe beyond.

[delfloria]

PPK.......YES!!!!!!!!

[Harmsway]

This wave of info has really made the movie snap into focus for me and I'm very excited.

Same here.

[sharpshooter]

Wow. QoS looks amazing!

I am thrilled the PPK is back. It is pure Bond and an icon. Craig looks like the definitive Bond indeed with it!

Love the pic of Craig charging through the catacomb as well. This film may be even grittier than CR!

[Jim]

This all looks very interesting.

Interested that Quantum is the name of "The Organisation". I wonder if it is meant to stand for anything? Probably not. In the words of Bill upon the subject of the Crazy 88, "I don't know. I guess they thought it sounded cool."

If it does stand for something, then what?

Questionably Unattractive And Not That Unattractive Men?
Querisomely Upset About Name "The Unter Menschen"?
Quite Understandably Angry, Nasty, Thuggish and Unbelievably Moronic?

[Loomis]

I actually heard the organization was called Quantum long ago. Before the title, before Haggis. I think it might have even been in 2006 (I was also told some info about what titles they would use which didn't exactly play out). So it was always Quantum. Or maybe it changed and then changed back.

I heard precisely the same thing and had also been wondering why it wasn't revealed earlier, e.g. at the press conference.

[Captain Tightpants]

This all looks very interesting.

Interested that Quantum is the name of "The Organisation". I wonder if it is meant to stand for anything? Probably not. In the words of Bill upon the subject of the Crazy 88, "I don't know. I guess they thought it sounded cool."

If it does stand for something, then what?

Questionably Unattractive And Not That Unattractive Men?
Querisomely Upset About Name "The Unter Menschen"?
Quite Understandably Angry, Nasty, Thuggish and Unbelievably Moronic?

Replace "Moronic" with "Malevolent" and maybe you're on to something ...

Edited by Captain Tightpants, 04 April 2008 - 08:17 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Fantastic article and I'm very glad that two of my guesses about QUANTUM OF SOLACE turned out to be true! Namely that the organisation was called Quantum, and that there would be no romance between Camille and Bond.

The line about Bond having to choose between killing Greene and saving innocent lives has excited me hugely. Forster really is deeply immersed in the character evolution of this movie and that fills me with enormous hope.

My gut instinct is still that this movie could end up with Bond missing-in-action similar to the novel You Only Live Twice, which would be fantastic as a cliffhanger to BOND 23.

[zstoneVII]

From the photos, love the locations and how it runs parallel with Bond's emotional state. Looks fantastic. Was initially worried would not be very fascinating or eye catching but from the photos some of the scenes look powerful and immediately convey Bond as a lonely man acting on revenge...

It will be in great contrast also to earlier scenes in Italy with the lake etc, that on film should look spectacular!

[BoogieBond]

Fantastic article and I'm very glad that two of my guesses about QUANTUM OF SOLACE turned out to be true! Namely that the organisation was called Quantum, and that there would be no romance between Camille and Bond.

The line about Bond having to choose between killing Greene and saving innocent lives has excited me hugely. Forster really is deeply immersed in the character evolution of this movie and that fills me with enormous hope.

My gut instinct is still that this movie could end up with Bond missing-in-action similar to the novel You Only Live Twice, which would be fantastic as a cliffhanger to BOND 23.

How about, with there being no romance between Bond and Camille, the ending similar to Moonraker, it would accentuate his loneliness at this time. Or perhaps that is saved for Bond 23.

Edited by BoogieBond, 04 April 2008 - 08:57 AM.

[Jim]

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

This looks like it's from the conclusion when Bond "runs along a building" before this issue about "smashing the glass" which seems to be in the foreground.

But that's just a guess.

Good photo, whatever it's from.

"He has the realization that there's no place for him in the outside world," Wilson says. "And also he's tempted by revenge and tempted by becoming a cynic, by losing his humanity. He has to fight all of these things."

Ooh. Yum.

[Jack Spang]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Until my joints go I will keep going as Bond...'

Daniel Craig showing no signs of stopping

Now this is fantastic news. Hopefully this means that Craig will wrap up the Quantum story arc in either BOND 23 or BOND 24, and then get at least one standalone Bond film.

I'm also a bit more optimistic about the film (not much more, but a little bit) now. I think that the desert setting is great, and hopefully that will translate into a great finish for the film.

Yeah, if Craig stayed on for atleast one stand alone Bond film this would be great.

I think most of this film sounds great except for most likely to much action which will certainly play havoc with my enjoyment of the film and I am skeptical about Camille as I don't like a**e kicking Bond girls. Apart from that it all sounds wonderful. Luckily I haven't read most of the spoilers. I hope Bond doesn't hook up with Camille at the end. It would be great if there was an ending that echoed the Moonraker novel between Bond and Gala in Regents or Hyde Park. My review will prbably read, good film but could have been one of the best if they had have just cut down on the action by about about half an hour. If this film just had the same ratio of action to dialogue as Casino Royale I'd be happy. CR had the big card game so Eon are probably putting in more action this time instead.

"He has the realization that there's no place for him in the outside world," Wilson says. "And also he's tempted by revenge and tempted by becoming a cynic, by losing his humanity. He has to fight all of these things."

All great! Very Fleming and Pearsonsque. Hopefully it won't just be a few seconds of dialogue here and there but by the sounds of the unnecessary abundance of action (Eon doing the Bourne Ultimatum thing) it sadly could very well be.
Ofcourse I'm still looking forward to the film but I like to prepare myself for disappointment in terms of Brosnan Bond proportions of action.

Edited by Jack Spang, 04 April 2008 - 10:06 AM.

[Zorin Industries]

I suppose it was pretty obvious it would be called that, really. What with Greene's 'Q' lapel pin.

http://img505.images...2/qos002sg3.jpg

Sorry, but I'm not buying into it, and I cite the PAUL HAGGIS ARGUMENT as my case: a few weeks after the initial press conference Haggis stated that he didn't have anything to do with the title being selected, which contradicts the notion that the Organisation is called "Quantum". If it was to be called Quantum, it's likely he would have had some idea of what the title was before it was announced, which he stated was not the case. For the Organisation to be called "Quantum" in a film called Qunatum of Solace without the screenwriter having any idea as to what the title was is too big a coincidence for me to accept. No, I think the writer of this article has come to his own conclusion based on Dominic Greene's lapel pin.

Please. Filmmakers do not need to tell the fans anything. Of course Haggis knew what the implications of the title are. All the key personnel working on the film do. But that doesn't automatically require the fans to be in the loop too because all that happens is endless speculation and criticism about a final film no-one has seen yet, not even the editor or the director. Eon have deliberately fed the press very little about this one. The original synopsis gave nothing away and that practise will continue as late into the day as possible. As it should. Why on earth do fans want to know every detail, every nuance, every piece of dialogue and every plot point before the film comes out. The desperation is beyond me.

[Jim]

Please. Filmmakers do not need to tell the fans anything. Of course Haggis knew what the implications of the title are. All the key personnel working on the film do. But that doesn't automatically require the fans to be in the loop too because all that happens is endless speculation and criticism about a final film no-one has seen yet, not even the editor or the director. Eon have deliberately fed the press very little about this one. The original synopsis gave nothing away and that practice will continue as late into the day as possible. As it should. Why on earth do fans want to know every detail, every nuance, every piece of dialogue and every plot point before the film comes out. The desperation is beyond me.

I love you.

Everyone read what the man writes. There is no entitlement to anything. Enjoy the speculation but do, please, realise that.

[Zorin Industries]

Please. Filmmakers do not need to tell the fans anything. Of course Haggis knew what the implications of the title are. All the key personnel working on the film do. But that doesn't automatically require the fans to be in the loop too because all that happens is endless speculation and criticism about a final film no-one has seen yet, not even the editor or the director. Eon have deliberately fed the press very little about this one. The original synopsis gave nothing away and that practice will continue as late into the day as possible. As it should. Why on earth do fans want to know every detail, every nuance, every piece of dialogue and every plot point before the film comes out. The desperation is beyond me.

I love you.

Everyone read what the man writes. There is no entitlement to anything. Enjoy the speculation but do, please, realise that.

Please Jim...people will talk...or speculate...or moan...or just get it plain wrong...(!).

I agree with Zencat - the film has suddenly snapped into focus and looks to have a palette, direction, use of locations and story elements that are not just run of the mill. Obviously time will tell, but I like the retro FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX hue the film has.

And thanks to those technical minded chaps and chapesses out there who have got the photos sorted. I need some new screensaver pics and that PPK shot might just be the one.

[Captain Tightpants]

I suppose it was pretty obvious it would be called that, really. What with Greene's 'Q' lapel pin.

http://img505.images...2/qos002sg3.jpg

Sorry, but I'm not buying into it, and I cite the PAUL HAGGIS ARGUMENT as my case: a few weeks after the initial press conference Haggis stated that he didn't have anything to do with the title being selected, which contradicts the notion that the Organisation is called "Quantum". If it was to be called Quantum, it's likely he would have had some idea of what the title was before it was announced, which he stated was not the case. For the Organisation to be called "Quantum" in a film called Qunatum of Solace without the screenwriter having any idea as to what the title was is too big a coincidence for me to accept. No, I think the writer of this article has come to his own conclusion based on Dominic Greene's lapel pin.

Please. Filmmakers do not need to tell the fans anything. Of course Haggis knew what the implications of the title are. All the key personnel working on the film do. But that doesn't automatically require the fans to be in the loop too because all that happens is endless speculation and criticism about a final film no-one has seen yet, not even the editor or the director. Eon have deliberately fed the press very little about this one. The original synopsis gave nothing away and that practise will continue as late into the day as possible. As it should. Why on earth do fans want to know every detail, every nuance, every piece of dialogue and every plot point before the film comes out. The desperation is beyond me.

We established that I was wrong because I missed the lines of dialogue where MGW stated the organsiation is called Quantum about six hours ago. It's old news.

[mcdonbb]

Yep, I agree. This wave of info has really made the movie snap into focus for me and I'm very excited. The organization name works great...the natural resource is perfect (nothing more precious)...the pics of Daniel in action look amazing...and the the PPK is back, baby! This is Bond, and maybe beyond.

Totally agree!!! Alot of neg vibes on here from fans including me, but I keep harping to the talent of the people involved. This article has "snapped it into focus for me too, but I have to say...

...so the plot is about a evil Frenchman taking over the water supply? How appropriate! C'est Bond!

Edited by mcdonbb, 04 April 2008 - 11:10 AM.

[Jim]

This all looks very interesting.

Interested that Quantum is the name of "The Organisation". I wonder if it is meant to stand for anything? Probably not. In the words of Bill upon the subject of the Crazy 88, "I don't know. I guess they thought it sounded cool."

If it does stand for something, then what?

Questionably Unattractive And Not That Unattractive Men?
Querisomely Upset About Name "The Unter Menschen"?
Quite Understandably Angry, Nasty, Thuggish and Unbelievably Moronic?

Replace "Moronic" with "Malevolent" and maybe you're on to something ...

Well, quite.

Or is it the product of a brand consultation?

"Sooo... What's "our" brand value? Robert?"

"Umm...Extortion, funding terrorism?"

"Good, Robert, good. Cool. Put that on the flip-chart. Bip it on the flip. Nice and big so everyone can see. Anyone else? Humphrey?"

"Death by powerpoint?"

"Ah, humour! Humour's good, Humphrey. That's good. Hey, I like your humour. I'm cool with that. Humour. Put that on the flip chart, Robert, Rob, Roberoonie. Perhaps we could work on the type of humour, yeah? What do we think? Gentle humour or..."

"...cackling madly?"

"Yeah, I think that's more you, isn't it, Susan? Yes, Robert, the Robster; cross out humour and put "cackling madly". Tell you what though team, thinking out of the loop here, bit edgy maybe, yeah?, bit wa-hey-hey, could we add "..and evilly?" Hey? Hey? D'you think? I see you nodding there, Eric, good. You have anything for this braincheesing?"

"Um... corruption?"

"Oh yeah, I think that's a core value, isn't it? Perhaps you could put that in the centre of the flip chart, Rob-O, for those of us who like things visual. The visualikers. Maybe in red pen? Nice and bright. Real hearts and minds stuff there. Anyone else? Anything else to run up the flagpole and see if it's a mindsplat. Yes, Lucifer..."

"I was thinking that we're perhaps not very...um...family, are we...maybe...um..."[sound of chair being electrified and the sizzling of rancid, porcine flesh]

"Hmm, perhaps, perhaps not, let's park that one shall we? Come back to it at the end. Anyone else? OK, so what do we have - Extortion, funding terrorism - I think that's got a double r in it Robert, but no matter - cackling madly and corruption. It's good, it's a really strong brand - but, guysguysguys, you need a name for it, hey? I mean, this current one, "The Organisation", y'know, it's flat, it's a bit fudgy, it's not iPod, it's not jPeg, it's not now, it's happened, it's over, it's uncool and suits, yeah, it's not talking brand value to youth, it's skiing, not boarding, it's totally Leighton Buzzard, yeah? All gone a bit desk, all a bit Tamworth Castle, yeah, I see you nodding, Eric, yeah? What you want is funky, you want it totally scheme, yeah, so scheme it makes scheme look abso-blimming-lutely ringbinder. Yeah? Phat. So, me and the guys got creative, got totally and rabidly corkboard, and we came up with these five suggestions... OK, first...

ACCENTURE

"OK, it speaks to me, like you're an international organisation, with accents and such totally cool Blenheim, yeah? OK, Yasser, question?"

"It's already taken."

"Right, cool - but remember, one of the brand values was corruption so how much more clamguts could it be to be so corrupt you stole someone else's name... no? I'm sensing major hostility here, but I guess that's another brand value - another one for the flip-chart, Robert. Yeah? Cool. It's a no, though? Hey, I'm down with that, I'm totally Bentham. Right, so next..."

CONSIGNIA

"Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?"

"No."

"Oh, right, colder than the coldest cool. Frinton. So, why not, Ken? It is Ken, isn't it?"

"Yes, it is Ken and no, we're not going for that, either. The Post Office tried that a few years ago and everyone hated it. We want to be feared, not hated."

"Ooh, feared, not hated. Good line, Ken. Kenny. Ken Laden. Kentally ill, the Kenster. Big K. Special K. Did one of these days for someone else a week ago, came up with the same thing. Who was it, Garth? Yeah, Manchester Metrolink. OK, so not a cheesy gerbil here either? 'K, cool, so it was just messin' with ideas, yeah? I think you'll go for this one, though..."

MONDAY

"Yeah? Feared but not hated? Yeah? That's a Monday, yeah? You get to Sunday night, it's just totally cake, yeah? World's gone Heartbeat, yeah, and only Monday to look forward to, yeah? Scare-E, yeah?"

"It's a firm of accountants."

"Yeah, well, we thought, y'know, suits and... those haircuts and... yeah, accountants. OK, I'm getting a "no". So, and this one I know you'll go for..."

SPECTRE

"Er, OK, guysguysguys, put the guns away, yeah? Sor-Ry. Jeez. Just licking your Dartmouths, yeah?"

"Have we really paid you

[Shrublands]

I would like to see a return to Bond getting caught by "M" at the end of each movie having sex with the Bond Girl i.e. Moonraker, TSWLM, AVTAK. I think it brings a refreshing element to the series.

Refreshing?

It seemed ludicrously dated and puerile in the mid 80s, resurrecting it (sort of) for the end of TWINE was embarrassing

[Colonel Moon]

Wow. That sounds fantastic! QOS sounds like it's going to be pure class and in no way a run of the mill Bond adventure. I was surprised by how much was revealed in that article. The role of Camille has me very intrigued now. Also, the poster who put up the links to the photos from the article somehow missed my favorite:

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

Dan is making Bond look amazingly badass there.

Bond in jeans? at last i have enought suits

[James Blond]

Wow. That sounds fantastic! QOS sounds like it's going to be pure class and in no way a run of the mill Bond adventure. I was surprised by how much was revealed in that article. The role of Camille has me very intrigued now. Also, the poster who put up the links to the photos from the article somehow missed my favorite:

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

Dan is making Bond look amazingly badass there.

Bond in jeans? at last i have enought suits

I'm very happy to see the PPK back, although it looks like he's carrying the P99 in this picture.

Edited by James Blond, 04 April 2008 - 12:25 PM.

[Royal Dalton]

The PPK's probably Slate's gun.

[sharpshooter]

I hope not. I like the PPK and I think Bond should revert back to it.

[Icephoenix]

Wow. That sounds fantastic! QOS sounds like it's going to be pure class and in no way a run of the mill Bond adventure. I was surprised by how much was revealed in that article. The role of Camille has me very intrigued now. Also, the poster who put up the links to the photos from the article somehow missed my favorite:

http://i.usatoday.ne...bondx-large.jpg

Dan is making Bond look amazingly badass there.

Bond in jeans? at last i have enought suits

I was about to mention the same thing! This is the first time we have ever seen Bond in a pair of jeans! Talk about evolving the character

[Loomis]

we know that Bond and Camille don't actually have a romantic relationship (and that his one fling in the movie is just a brief one-off with Fields).

Do we know that Bond and Camille don't have sex, or is it just that they don't have a romance (although "romance" seems to be a word used incredibly loosely in the context of the Bond flicks)?

From the info I can glean, it appears that 007 may still be getting a bit of rumpy-pumpy - or at least something - with her. Not sure we can count on a faithful previously unused Flemingian element (from MOONRAKER) just yet, although then again the omens do look good.

[sharpshooter]

I like that picture. He's running at full speed with gun drawn and probably full of angst, and he has a nice pair of shades on. Class.

[Loomis]

I like that picture. He's running at full speed with gun drawn and probably full of angst, and he has a nice pair of shades on. Class.

I'll play devil's advocate: isn't it a bit Cruise in M:I-2?

[BoogieBond]

we know that Bond and Camille don't actually have a romantic relationship (and that his one fling in the movie is just a brief one-off with Fields).

Do we know that Bond and Camille don't have sex, or is it just that they don't have a romance (although "romance" seems to be a word used incredibly loosely in the context of the Bond flicks)?

From the info I can glean, it appears that 007 may still be getting a bit of rumpy-pumpy - or at least something - with her. Not sure we can count on a faithful previously unused Flemingian element (from MOONRAKER) just yet, although then again the omens do look good.

I don't know. My guess is no rumpy-pumpy or any slap and tickle.
Perhaps a kiss or an embrace sommit, when they are both in danger promising something more (ala Moonraker) and then they go their separate ways at the end, perhaps not quite MR as there may not be another man involved