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[HH007]

I'd say it's Eon's film first and foremost, then a Marc Forster film, then Craig's film.

Quite right. And given the role that Marc Forster had in shaping QUANTUM OF SOLACE (he states in another interview is that he literally tossed the script out and then went to work on a new one, instructing Haggis on what he wanted to do with the film). He doesn't own the franchise, but QUANTUM OF SOLACE is definitely proving to be more and more his baby.

I'm liking this news about Kurylenko's character. It's about time that EON delivered on their promise of providing us a Bond girl that is different from all of the others, which Camille appears as though she will be. The dynamic of her not being romantically involved with Bond will be a very refreshing change from the usual direction that EON takes the relationship between Bond and the lead actress.

Yes. I'm quite looking forward to seeing how her relationship with Bond develops. It seems like it's a relationship of mutual goals - she wants revenge for the death of her family, and he wants revenge for the death of Vesper.

Thank you for summarizing that. Here is where, precisely, the battle line is drawn. If Humble Pie is called for in November, then so be it. But I don't believe it will be served on my side of the table unless this director is made to think Bond, rather than HIS movie.

Careful now, A LOT of people had to eat some hefty servings of Humble Pie after Casino Royale. And as I said on the other thread, QoS is EON's film, not Forster's, and believe me, if they thought he was going too esoteric or artsy-fartsy or whatever with it, they would definitely do something about it. You can bet your life that Babs and Mikey are standing over Marc's shoulder during this whole shoot, keeping an eye on things. So unless I read that Forster's been fired for "creative differences," I have no reason to feel anything but optimistic about QoS.

BTW, come November, would you like that Humble Pie heated and served with a scoop of ice cream on the side?

Wow, November's going to be a big month. We in the U.S. will (hopefully) know who our next President will be, and we'll have a new Bond movie! Woo-hoo!

[delfloria]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this. Craig aside, I'm seeing alot of the old stuff from the Brosnan era filtering in. The major one being a sensitive dramatic director following in footsteps, once again, of Martin Campbell. I have no way of really telling how the final product will come out but I'm seeing stuff that worries me on a personal level.

BTW nobody been talking about Arnold's approach this time around. More like TND or CR I guess we will see.

[Harmsway]

"That said, Forster joked that since Quantum of Solace is the first film he's made where he won't have final cut, he could always place blame if the film fails on not having control over the editing process."

This is what really sucks. This is where all the wonderful, atmospheric and dialogue scenes get cut out in favour of action.

The only reason he doesn't have final cut is really more of a supervision measure to make sure that contractually the power is still in EON's hands, not the director's. It doesn't really play out, though. As far as I'm aware, the director and EON has never had any substantial disagreement about the final cut of a Bond film, and every director working under Babs and Michael has been exceedingly gracious about how supportive they are. I imagine EON will be exceedingly respectful of Forster's wishes as to the final cut (heck, they've given him so much authority so far).

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

Where did you see it (I haven't seen this video)?

[HH007]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

Oh Please... Is that any more absurd than Craig bouncing around construction cranes and rooftops with that Parkour guy? This is JAMES BOND we're talking about, is it not? Shall we count the number of wild/unrealistc/downright impossible things that have happened in Bond's twenty one film canon... please.

Why are people so quick to assume the worst about this movie? Have we learned nothing for Casino Royale...?

[Royal Dalton]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

[Vauxhall]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

Which video is this shown in? I seem to have missed this particular clip. Thanks!

[Royal Dalton]

It's in this one.

http://vids.myspace....ideoID=31721349

[Vauxhall]

Cool, thanks for that Checking it out now.

Having seen that video, I'm wondering whether what we are seeing is Camille flipping herself onto that balcony to get into one of the eco-hotel rooms to confront General Medrano.

[Harmsway]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

[tdalton]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

I liked that stunt as well. It didn't look at all over the top, and hopefully all of the stunts are in this fashion rather than the style that the action in CASINO ROYALE had.

One thing that does bother me though (and this is a relatively small thing) is that QUANTUM OF SOLACE logo that they're showing before and after all of these videos. I don't like either logo that they've come up with, but the one that was more like the one for CASINO ROYALE was much better, rather than having each word of the title stacked on top of each other like the current logo shows. Of course, it would probably be OK if they weren't trying to force the "007" logo into it. It just looks tacky.

[Quantumofsolace007]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

I liked that stunt as well. It didn't look at all over the top, and hopefully all of the stunts are in this fashion rather than the style that the action in CASINO ROYALE had.

One thing that does bother me though (and this is a relatively small thing) is that QUANTUM OF SOLACE logo that they're showing before and after all of these videos. I don't like either logo that they've come up with, but the one that was more like the one for CASINO ROYALE was much better, rather than having each word of the title stacked on top of each other like the current logo shows. Of course, it would probably be OK if they weren't trying to force the "007" logo into it. It just looks tacky.

I prefered the orignal logo but i assume they are trying to give Quantum more recognition due to the ornization being called Quantum.

still would prefer the old logo (so what it looke like Casino Royale I don't mind)

[Jackanaples]

Just watched the video. What's so farfetched about Camille's swing jump to the balcony? Looked great.

[Captain Tightpants]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

It's a lot like the Miami Airport sequence where Bond does the cartwheel and lands in the truck cabin. But if anything, Camille's cartwheel is more realistic because the building she's on is not moving at fifty miles an hour ...

[tdalton]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

It's a lot like the Miami Airport sequence where Bond does the cartwheel and lands in the truck cabin. But if anything, Camille's cartwheel is more realistic because the building she's on is not moving at fifty miles an hour ...

Agreed. I think that it's a good stunt, and it's not over the top like Bond's cartwheel into the moving truck in CASINO ROYALE. Hopefully all of the action will be as low key (at least compared to CASINO ROYALE's action) as this stunt because I find it to be much more believable than some of the stuff that we've seen in recent films.

[sharpshooter]

Olga's flip off the edge of the building was great. It is plausible and looks good on film.

[Jack Spang]

"My gut instinct is still that this movie could end up with Bond missing-in-action similar to the novel You Only Live Twice, which would be fantastic as a cliffhanger to BOND 23."

I've always hoped for this.

Hopefully they will cut down on some of the action too. Oh my god, who am I kidding?! Is the same ratio of action to everything else as CR too little action for Eon's liking? Damn, we had more than enough!

Edited by Jack Spang, 06 April 2008 - 04:34 PM.

[dodge]

I'd say it's Eon's film first and foremost, then a Marc Forster film, then Craig's film.

Quite right. And given the role that Marc Forster had in shaping QUANTUM OF SOLACE (he states in another interview is that he literally tossed the script out and then went to work on a new one, instructing Haggis on what he wanted to do with the film). He doesn't own the franchise, but QUANTUM OF SOLACE is definitely proving to be more and more his baby.

I'm liking this news about Kurylenko's character. It's about time that EON delivered on their promise of providing us a Bond girl that is different from all of the others, which Camille appears as though she will be. The dynamic of her not being romantically involved with Bond will be a very refreshing change from the usual direction that EON takes the relationship between Bond and the lead actress.

Yes. I'm quite looking forward to seeing how her relationship with Bond develops. It seems like it's a relationship of mutual goals - she wants revenge for the death of her family, and he wants revenge for the death of Vesper.

Thank you for summarizing that. Here is where, precisely, the battle line is drawn. If Humble Pie is called for in November, then so be it. But I don't believe it will be served on my side of the table unless this director is made to think Bond, rather than HIS movie.

Careful now, A LOT of people had to eat some hefty servings of Humble Pie after Casino Royale. And as I said on the other thread, QoS is EON's film, not Forster's, and believe me, if they thought he was going too esoteric or artsy-fartsy or whatever with it, they would definitely do something about it. You can bet your life that Babs and Mikey are standing over Marc's shoulder during this whole shoot, keeping an eye on things. So unless I read that Forster's been fired for "creative differences," I have no reason to feel anything but optimistic about QoS.

BTW, come November, would you like that Humble Pie heated and served with a scoop of ice cream on the side?
Wow, November's going to be a big month. We in the U.S. will (hopefully) know who our next President will be, and we'll have a new Bond movie! Woo-hoo!

I'll take it any way it's served--hopefully as graciously as I'll serve it if I'm correct. I keep hearing from thread experts that Babs and Michael are in complete control, that it's their film and not Forster's. Now, no one's a fly on the wall here, so at this point none of us can say for sure that all is going well. I sincerely hope it is. But I say to you quite sincerely: I hope I am wrong...I will joyously eat humble pie if I am wrong...but until I see the film I'm sticking to my gut instinct: I'll be eating pumpkin pie with whipped cream and bean vanilla ice cream.

[Harmsway]

Now, no one's a fly on the wall here, so at this point none of us can say for sure that all is going well.

No-one can say for sure, true. But we can look at the evidence and draw conclusions. Right now, there's no evidence that things are going badly. I see no reason to create concerns out of thin air.

[Quantumofsolace007]

"My gut instinct is still that this movie could end up with Bond missing-in-action similar to the novel You Only Live Twice, which would be fantastic as a cliffhanger to BOND 23."

I've always hoped for this.

Hopefully they will cut down on some of the action too. Oh my god, who am I kidding?! Is the same ratio of action to everything else as CR too little action for Eon's liking? Damn, we had more than enough!

I'm not sure QOS is the right time for it . Thoughh i have a varity of thought as to how to update YOLT.

Like why set up a garden of death? perhaps it's a biological weapon facility?


I do feel Quantum will be around for a bit and right now the writing on the wall says Quantum of Solace is not the last Dfleming titled bond film. I have a feeling it will be The Property of a Lady but Risico and THR seem just as likely I'll get a better sense after seeing the trailer and film

[HH007]

I'd say it's Eon's film first and foremost, then a Marc Forster film, then Craig's film.

Quite right. And given the role that Marc Forster had in shaping QUANTUM OF SOLACE (he states in another interview is that he literally tossed the script out and then went to work on a new one, instructing Haggis on what he wanted to do with the film). He doesn't own the franchise, but QUANTUM OF SOLACE is definitely proving to be more and more his baby.

I'm liking this news about Kurylenko's character. It's about time that EON delivered on their promise of providing us a Bond girl that is different from all of the others, which Camille appears as though she will be. The dynamic of her not being romantically involved with Bond will be a very refreshing change from the usual direction that EON takes the relationship between Bond and the lead actress.

Yes. I'm quite looking forward to seeing how her relationship with Bond develops. It seems like it's a relationship of mutual goals - she wants revenge for the death of her family, and he wants revenge for the death of Vesper.

Thank you for summarizing that. Here is where, precisely, the battle line is drawn. If Humble Pie is called for in November, then so be it. But I don't believe it will be served on my side of the table unless this director is made to think Bond, rather than HIS movie.

Careful now, A LOT of people had to eat some hefty servings of Humble Pie after Casino Royale. And as I said on the other thread, QoS is EON's film, not Forster's, and believe me, if they thought he was going too esoteric or artsy-fartsy or whatever with it, they would definitely do something about it. You can bet your life that Babs and Mikey are standing over Marc's shoulder during this whole shoot, keeping an eye on things. So unless I read that Forster's been fired for "creative differences," I have no reason to feel anything but optimistic about QoS.

BTW, come November, would you like that Humble Pie heated and served with a scoop of ice cream on the side?
Wow, November's going to be a big month. We in the U.S. will (hopefully) know who our next President will be, and we'll have a new Bond movie! Woo-hoo!

I'll take it any way it's served--hopefully as graciously as I'll serve it if I'm correct. I keep hearing from thread experts that Babs and Michael are in complete control, that it's their film and not Forster's. Now, no one's a fly on the wall here, so at this point none of us can say for sure that all is going well. I sincerely hope it is. But I say to you quite sincerely: I hope I am wrong...I will joyously eat humble pie if I am wrong...but until I see the film I'm sticking to my gut instinct: I'll be eating pumpkin pie with whipped cream and bean vanilla ice cream.

But why do you think it's going badly? Seriously, why? Yes, Forster is directing the film, but the Bond franchise is the baby of Babs and Mike, and if they rule over it the way old Cubby did, then it's very reasonable to assume they have final say on what flies and what doesn't. Meaning if Forster was ing it up, you can bet they'd have given him the boot by now. Just like I'm sure they would nix any bad idea he came up with. Considering the caliber of creative talent involved here, I think it's borderline irrational to assume that the film is not in capable hands. Afterall, the Craig/Casino Royale detractors were oh so convinced that film was going to be the HEAVEN'S GATE/GIGLI of Bond, and we now know how right they were.

Have faith.

[BoogieBond]

Wow, just saw that clip, thanks very much.

I also like Olga's flip.

The locations look pretty stunning at the mo. Especially the desert location behind DC. Also like that Craig and Forster are talking about character and plot a bit.

[Quantumofsolace007]

i'm excited now release that darn trailer!

[smartz]

[post="http://www.dvd-forum.../1191/news_kino[/post].htm have landed some excellent new images from the next was promo material from E.ON- seriously excellent looking!!!








There are others go check them out!!!! Smartz

[Captain Tightpants]

i'm excited now release that darn trailer!

I doubt Sony is going to listen to you.

[Quantumofsolace007]

i'm excited now release that darn trailer!

I doubt Sony is going to listen to you.

that was unnescary Captain tightpants and kinda rude.


and you never know. I had predicted Quantum of Solace would be teh title of bond 22 a little after Casino Royale finished up its run in the theater. maybe my early may teaser idea will be true as well.

aslo love the new pics.

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 10 April 2008 - 02:48 PM.

[mcdonbb]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this. Craig aside, I'm seeing alot of the old stuff from the Brosnan era filtering in. The major one being a sensitive dramatic director following in footsteps, once again, of Martin Campbell. I have no way of really telling how the final product will come out but I'm seeing stuff that worries me on a personal level.

BTW nobody been talking about Arnold's approach this time around. More like TND or CR I guess we will see.

I am so tired of everyone damning QoS before they even see it!!! You cannot tell but snippets of film and soundbites. If you did no one would have seen Casino Royale. Remember the caliber of the makers involved and why they were hired in the first place.

Everyone needs to chill!!!!!

Edited by mcdonbb, 12 April 2008 - 01:18 PM.

[HH007]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this. Craig aside, I'm seeing alot of the old stuff from the Brosnan era filtering in. The major one being a sensitive dramatic director following in footsteps, once again, of Martin Campbell. I have no way of really telling how the final product will come out but I'm seeing stuff that worries me on a personal level.

BTW nobody been talking about Arnold's approach this time around. More like TND or CR I guess we will see.

I am so tired of everyone damning QoS before they even see it!!! You cannot tell but snippets of film and soundbites. If you did no one would have seen Casino Royale. Remember the caliber of the makers involved and why they were hired in the first place.

Everyone needs to chill!!!!!

Praise Jesus! Amen!

Thank you, mcdonbb, that's EXACTLY what I've been saying. Nice to see a couple of other RATIONAL people out there in cyberspace.

[Emma]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Until my joints go I will keep going as Bond...'

Daniel Craig showing no signs of stopping

Now this is fantastic news. Hopefully this means that Craig will wrap up the Quantum story arc in either BOND 23 or BOND 24, and then get at least one standalone Bond film.

Hmmm... I don't know how to take this. I'm not sure if the just said it to shut people up about how long he'll be Bond or if he really means it.

I enjoy Craig's take as Bond, but I would rather not seem him in the part forever. I think he should do 3 more films and leave on a high. Unlke Pierce Brosnan, Craig doesn't look younger than he is. The age is going to start to show.

[MarcAngeDraco]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

I agree as well. Not flashy or unbelievable... certainly nothing to induce doubts about the film...

[HH007]

After watching Olga flip off the edge of the building and land on the terrace I have a bad feeling about this.

I liked that bit.

So did I. When I heard about it, I was picturing some absurd stunt. It looks entirely believable to me, actually - not very flashy at all.

I agree as well. Not flashy or unbelievable... certainly nothing to induce doubts about the film...

Preach the word, brother!

The worry worts are really annoying the piss out of me, because their worries are based on nothing.