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[DR76]

That would suggest that one is a love interest and the other is a villain. I've been calling for a villainess for some time, but Catwoman isn't the type of character who could carry a film by herself.

Why not? Too ambiguous? Does she have to be a straight out villainess?

[Safari Suit]

IMO Catwoman has been overused on screen. I know people will say that it doesn't count or has no relevance, but there was a Catwoman film less than a decade ago. I seem to remember the character turned up a lot in the animated show too, and we all know she was played by 50 different people or something back in the 60s. Of course The Joker has been used a lot on screen too, but I feel he's a much stronger character.

[DamnCoffee]

Apparently it's called Dark Knight Rising now. THAT'S EVEN WORSE.

Oh, and Harvey Dent won't be appearing in it.

http://www.digitalsp...ght-rising.html

[Safari Suit]

I imagine that's an error on the part of the author, as this title doesn't seemed to have been mentioned anywhere else

[Harmsway]

Yeah, it's probably an error.

[Vauxhall]

Oh, and Harvey Dent won't be appearing in it.

Quite content with that. He's well truly and dead in my head.

[coco1997]

There's also Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn, both of whom could be updated or modified for the big screen.

I don't think it's possible to undertake Poison Ivy without treading too close to the 'sci-fi' territory of which Nolan seems so wary.

Honestly, the only decent female villains I can possibly imagine seeing now are Catwoman and/or Talia al Ghul.

[terminus]

I would love to have seen them do Professor Pyg as a villain in one of the Nolan films - I think it would be totally in keeping with the feel of the era.

I've said it before - my moneys on Talia al Ghul, it'd be a nice counterpoint to Ras in the first film.

That said - there ARE other females in the Rogues Gallery that could be interesting to bring forward. Harlequin, as has been noted - make her a minor villain if you must, a psychologist who spent too long looking into the mind of the Joker and became a copycat villain. A tribute artist - it would almost get around the want/desire to use the Joker whilst not being able to use the character.

Catwoman - I loved the rumour a few years ago that they were looking for an older actress, someone who could do an elder femme fatale sort, I remember Cher being tossed around as a candidate, but Anjelica Houston (heck, even Michelle Pfeiffer if we want) could be great playing that sort of role.

Agreed that Poison Ivy could be a touch more difficult to anchor in a realistic manner - though I think it could be done. Make her a bit more Scarecrow-esque, using plants to create potions and chemicals to control peoples minds and make them susceptible to suggestion and control. Abandon the plant control concept wholesale.

[Harmsway]

I completely disagree. Poison Ivy could easily be adapted into a believable villain in the Nolan universe. She could be a sort of Catherine Trammell-like femme fatale who kills men by giving them a case of deadly toxins that are exchanged during sex. Or Poison Ivy could be a Goldfinger-type villain with a Moonraker-like scheme (in love with the color of green; uses her greenhouse to weaponize poisonous bacteria that will decimate the world and leave only her and a few committed environmentalists alive to repopulate the planet).

Eh, it all sounds rather lame. There's plenty of absurdity in the Nolan franchise, but there's little appeal to the ideas you've pointed above. And, given the tendency of Nolan's films to be theme-driven more than anything, it's hard to see what such a character could really bring to the core ideas that Nolan has been playing with in BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT.

[DamnCoffee]

I would love to see Harley Quinn more than anything.

[Captain Tightpants]

I would love to have seen them do Professor Pyg as a villain in one of the Nolan films - I think it would be totally in keeping with the feel of the era.

It could work by splicing him into Strange. I could see Strange written as a psychiatrist who frequently consults with the FBI and is regarded as the world's pre-eminent expert on serial killers - largely because he is one himself. I see parallels between Pyg's "Dollotrons" and the mannequins Strange uses to torment Batman during the PREY storyline. You could have a super-creepy scene where Bruce Wayne (under the effects of a modified fear toxin) bursts into a room in Wayne Manor and finds Strange/Pyg has left behind dozens of women that have all had surgery to make them look like Rachel Dawes (and as an in-joke, make some look like Katie Holmes and others look like Maggie Gyllenhaal). I could also see the opportunity to work THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS into the mix, with Strange/Pyg appearing on television with a reformed Jonathon Crane (instead of the Joker), claiming that Crane is sane and has been a scapegoat of Batman all along (plus, more Cilian Murphy). Which would also lead off nicely into the smear campaign against Batman. And you could also work Crane into the Max Cort character, creating Scarebeast (after a fashion) instead of Night Scourge. It would also explain how Strange/Pyg got his hands on a sample of fear toxin.

And if I could cast anybody in the role of Catwoman (assuming she's in), then I'd skip the likes of Angelina Jolie and go straight for Amy Acker.

[coco1997]

The hot rumor right now is that Naomi Watts and our very own Vesper Lynd (Eva Green) will be starring in "TDKR" as Vicki Vale and Tali al Ghul, respectively.

Have Eva Green and Naomi Watts Joined The Dark Knight Rises?

If true, I couldn't be happier. A Bond girl as a Bat babe now? Perfect.

[DamnCoffee]

I really really REALLY want to see Harley Quinn. I'm pretty sure Eva Green and Olga Kurylenko were tossed around on this board for possible contenders for Catwoman.

[sharpshooter]

I'm pretty sure Eva Green and Olga Kurylenko were tossed around on this board for possible contenders for Catwoman.

I don't think we're going to see Catwoman at all. Which sucks. It looks like it's going to be Talia Al Ghul instead.

Sure, Nolan can make a decent film with Talia. But a theatrical character would be better. Talia is certainly more realistic. But she's bland in comparison, and definitely not as iconic top tier. Now is the chance to do the big three, The Joker, Two Face and Catwoman. No matter how good this ends up, if Catwoman is absent, I think this will be viewed as a missed chance, and a gap in the trilogy.

[dinovelvet]

The hot rumor right now is that Naomi Watts and our very own Vesper Lynd (Eva Green) will be starring in "TDKR" as Vicki Vale and Tali al Ghul, respectively.

Have Eva Green and Naomi Watts Joined The Dark Knight Rises?

If true, I couldn't be happier. A Bond girl as a Bat babe now? Perfect.

If this pans out, it will mean Daniel Craig is officially the center of the universe, with four of his former co-stars in this : Morgan Freeman (The Power of One), Tom Hardy (Layer Cake), Naomi Watts (Dream House) and Eva Green (Casino Royale and Golden Compass!)

[Messervy]

I'm pretty sure Eva Green and Olga Kurylenko were tossed around on this board for possible contenders for Catwoman.

I don't think we're going to see Catwoman at all. Which sucks. It looks like it's going to be Talia Al Ghul instead.

Sure, Nolan can make a decent film with Talia. But a theatrical character would be better. Talia is certainly more realistic. But she's bland in comparison, and definitely not as iconic top tier. Now is the chance to do the big three, The Joker, Two Face and Catwoman. No matter how good this ends up, if Catwoman is absent, I think this will be viewed as a missed chance, and a gap in the trilogy.

I disagree: Talia is the mother of Bruce Wayne's son Damian, and is a very pivotal character in the comics. Distant, but eseential.
Catwoman is substantial, too, of course, but more well-known; I think Nolan can deliver something tremendous if he goes the Talia route.

[DR76]

Sure, Nolan can make a decent film with Talia. But a theatrical character would be better. Talia is certainly more realistic. But she's bland in comparison, and definitely not as iconic top tier. Now is the chance to do the big three, The Joker, Two Face and Catwoman. No matter how good this ends up, if Catwoman is absent, I think this will be viewed as a missed chance, and a gap in the trilogy.

I don't think that the villain matters as much as the story. Frankly, I was more impressed by Liam Neeson's Henri Ducard, because he was a bigger whack job than Ledger's Joker. More importantly, I believe that "BATMAN BEGINS" had a better plot.

[coco1997]

All signs thus far point to Talia al Ghul being one of the villains.

[Matt_13]

I'd be thrilled if Eva Green were cast. I think we can be certain Talia is going to be in it.

[coco1997]

WE HAVE OUR VILLAINS.

Anne Hathaway is Catwoman and Tom Hardy is Bane in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES!

[zencat]

Oh, YES!

[DamnCoffee]

OH YES PLEASE!

[Loomis]

No Eva Green?

[coco1997]

Rest assured, these:





...will soon be distant memories.

[Zorin Industries]

Very wise casting there.

[The Dove]

NICE!!! I just hope Tom Hardy's Bane comes across WAY better than his Schinzon, the baddie from that utterly attrocious, Star Trek: Nemesis... As for Anne Hathaway, "She is very sexable" -Tiger Tanaka..lol Great choice for Catwoman..

[Matt_13]

Hardy as Bane? That's odd. Interested to see what Nolan has in mind for that.


Stoked for Hathaway, but a little disappointed that we won't be seeing Eva Green. Oh well.

[Vauxhall]

Very surprised about Anne Hathaway as Catwoman but pleasantly so. Come on, Nolan. Don't fail me now.

[Captain Tightpants]

Yes, please put her in the Catsuit.

Anyway, with Bane being in the film, I'm guessing the plot is going to revolve around him going on a rampage across Gotham and Batman redeeming himself in the eyes of the city by going after him.

[dinovelvet]

Whatevs. Bane is a useless, one-note character who did ONE awesome thing. So they'd better be doing 'that thing' in the movie, and that would be a jaw-dropping note to end this trilogy on.