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[sharpshooter]

Um, how reliable is this by the way?

110% reliable. It's a done deal.

[MattofSteel]

I keep waiting for it to grow on me. It's not.

[The Shark]

How about?

RISE OF THE DARK KNIGHT

MORNING WOOD OF THE DARK KNIGHT

THE DARK KNIGHT TRIPS AND FALLS ON A BANANA SKIN

[Loomis]

Well, sometimes titles change and hopefully this one will. REVENGE OF THE JEDI famously became RETURN OF THE JEDI, while RAMBO (2008) was entitled JOHN RAMBO until about five minutes before release (and it went into production under the title RAMBO IV: IN THE SERPENT'S EYE, if I remember correctly). And THE GHOST became THE GHOST WRITER (in the States, at least) fairly late in the day.

By using The Dark Knight Rises, it's like they have effectively resigned B3 to being The Dark Knight's appendage rather than a film of its own. Like TDK and TDKR are Part 1 and Part 2 of the same story, and Batman Begins is something separate. The titles don't make it feel like a trilogy.

Quite. It's as though Nolan and co. are saying "We're desperate to remake THE DARK KNIGHT and keep dining out on its glory, as opposed to making a fresh Batman film that has its own identity."

Dreadful decision. Diabolical title.

[sharpshooter]

Indeed it is. I'm sure the film will deliver, but the title is anti-climatic and hard to get excited about.

It feels like we're not getting anything new. It feels like we're still stuck in 2008. We've picked up an extra word. Whoopdedoo. I was hoping for something like, you know, Gotham City or something. Something totally different.

[Safari Suit]

I don't really care about the title, I don't think it's very good, but whatever. I'm more disappointed the villain (supposedly) wont be The Riddler; I'm not a huge expert, but given that Nolan considers everyone from The Penguin down "too fantastic", I'm not sure if there are any really good villains left.

[sharpshooter]

I'm sure the title will serve the story, but didn't Batman rise in Batman Begins? Wasn't the fact that he had risen evidenced in the sequel being called The Dark Knight?

[Tybre]

Agreed it's not the best title ever, but it's not really horrible either. Even if the source is accurate, the film is still some ways away. Always the possibility the title will change in the meanwhile. Really I'm more concerned with the film itself than the title.

[Loomis]

I agree that the title is flat, but I can't say that it seems as though Nolan and co. are "desperate to remake THE DARK KNIGHT". I think that's a bit of a stretch.

A bit of a stretch? What, when the title of the last Batman film is replicated in its entirety with just one more word added to it? It doesn't exactly look as though they're trying to put much clear blue water between THE DARK KNIGHT and this new one.

If Sony had insisted on QUANTUM OF SOLACE being called - oh, I don't know - CASINO ROYALE: AFTERMATH, or something like that (indeed, CASINO ROYALE 2: ON THE EDGE was an early rumoured title, although I doubt that it was ever really considered), wouldn't you have said that it looked as though they were trying rather pathetically to milk the commercial success and critical acclaim of CASINO ROYALE?

Having said that, I'd be curious to know who the people in this thread that are opposing THE DARK KNIGHT RISES title are also in favor of titles such as THE HILDEBLAND RARITY, QUANTURD OF SOLACE, 007 IN NEW YUCK, RISICKO, and THE PROPERTY OF A LIFETIME MOVIE. I bet you dollars to donuts someone on these boards will both bemoan the new Batman movie title and alternately praise EON if they choose any of the remaining short story titles.

Why would any Bond fan be against using authentic Fleming titles? Pretty much the only good thing about the last (so-called) Bond film was that it employed a title thought up by Fleming (and probably the most "difficult" and uncommercial of the unused Fleming titles at that).

I think Nolan has earned the right to be blindly trusted on these matters.

I also think he's earned the right to give BATMAN BEGINS 3 a bold, original and intriguing title, and it's a pity to see him waste this opportunity in favour of something so mindless.

[Royal Dalton]

Batman Ends.

[marktmurphy]

It's maybe a grower.

Fnarr.

I hope those bat-pants are strong enough to hide it.

[jaguar007]

With that title, all they have to do is raid the old RKO movie series from the 30s and the 40s for future titles.

The Dark Knight Returns
The Dark Knight in London
The Dark Knight and the Co-Eds

etc

[Loomis]

Like the difference between BATMAN and BATMAN RETURNS? Clearly BATMAN FOREVER was a unique title, but the movie was pure junk, as was BATMAN AND ROBIN.

Well, I don't have any respect for the Burton/Schumacher era of Batman, and I consider those four films to comprise a completely different series to the Nolan efforts. It's therefore irrelevant to mention 'em.

But you make it sound as if Warner Brothers is specifically trying to milk the teat of THE DARK KNIGHT, as opposed to Batman in general.

Yep. That's exactly what it looks like to me. They're specifically trying to milk the teat of THE DARK KNIGHT.

I'll ask you: would it have sat well with you if the last Bond flick had been titled CASINO ROYALE: AFTERMATH, CASINO ROYALE: THE REVENGE, CASINO ROYALE PART II or something similar? (And, yes, I know you dislike the use of QUANTUM OF SOLACE as a movie title, but I'm asking you whether you'd have liked BOND 23 to have CASINO ROYALE in its title in some form.)

Wouldn't you have felt that Sony and Eon were trying to capitalise on CASINO ROYALE in particular as opposed to on Bond in general?

[Harmsway]

Rubbish title. I'm not bothered that the title uses THE DARK KNIGHT (my personal pick for the title of the third installment was HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT, actually), and that Nolan has indicated that this film will be more of a direct follow-up to its predecessor aimed at wrapping up loose ends and resolving themes rather than something strictly standalone makes that entirely appropriate. But THE DARK KNIGHT RISES has no punch, no pizzaz.

I'm encouraged, however, that the Riddler isn't going to feature.

[marktmurphy]

Like the difference between BATMAN and BATMAN RETURNS? Clearly BATMAN FOREVER was a unique title, but the movie was pure junk, as was BATMAN AND ROBIN.

Well, I don't have any respect for the Burton/Schumacher era of Batman, and I consider those four films to comprise a completely different series to the Nolan efforts. It's therefore irrelevant to mention 'em.

'Batman Forever' is a good title, though.
'Dark Knight Rises' sounds like it'll feature vıagra product placement. Mind you, I suppose 'Forever' could work well for that too...

[Tarl_Cabot]

I like Harmsway's title more than TDK Rises. It's just so agressively boring for a title to the sequel of the 3rd biggest movie ever. Who came up with it anyway, G-Lucas?

[Loomis]

I always liked THE CAPED CRUSADER, although many have shot it down as too campy (mind you, THE DARK KNIGHT is really no less campy).

Otherwise, BATMAN would work pretty well (and further divorce the Nolan series from the Burton and Schumacher films). I also like Tarl's suggestion of THE BATMAN, a title which would carry quite a cheeky statement of self-confidence.

Another fine title option is BUT I DID BLOODY TELL YOU.

[DaveBond21]

How about calling it simply

KAPOW!


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[Single-O-Seven]

I'm not a huge fan of the title, but as long as I end up a fan of the film itself the title won't matter much. I feel he should have finished off with Batman in the title. The Batman Rises would have been better (to me), as it's less of a mouthful. So to speak.

I never really thought the Riddler would feature, and was quite surprised when that casting callsheet rumour popped up a few months back. Now I'm truly curious to see who the villain(s) will be. I'm guessing Bookworm or Joe Coyne. All joking aside, I can see a reworked version of the Mad Hatter working well. I know little of the character's recent incarnations in the comics but I believe he's a far more dark and psychologically driven character than the earlier, jokey appearances showed. Any comic fans know more about this character and what would/wouldn't work? I think a character from left field would suit what Nolan is doing.

[Captain Tightpants]

But THE DARK KNIGHT RISES has no punch, no pizzaz.

THE DARK KNIGHT RISING might have been a better riff on it.

[coco1997]

Meh, I was hoping for SHADOW OF THE BAT.

[Jose]

How about calling it simply
KAPOW!

I would have gone with "The Dark Knight Strikes Again". Catchy, pizazz, etc. But veering away from "The Dark Knight (__)".... The Caped Crime-Buster.

[sharpshooter]

Well, the title will have no impact on the film’s quality. With The Riddler out of the equation, I’m gunning for Hugo Strange. Played by Robin Williams. That would bring down the house.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm hoping for Hugo Strange Catwoman and one of the freakier villians (since the last films theme was escalation it only makes sense for a "freak" villian like Croc Bane or Black mask to be utlized)

[Bryce (003)]

Well, for my two pence, I like it as a title. Just sayin'

[coco1997]

I always liked THE CAPED CRUSADER, although many have shot it down as too campy (mind you, THE DARK KNIGHT is really no less campy).

I disagree. When I hear 'Caped Crusader', I tend to think of the campy 1950-1960s Batman, whereas the Dark Knight has a sense of nobility and mystery to it. I mean, did they ever even call him the Dark Knight in the 60s show?

[Quantumofsolace007]

Well, for my two pence, I like it as a title. Just sayin'

me 2

[Tarl_Cabot]

http://spider-bob.co...HugoStrange.htm

Tom Hardy is about 5'10....

I'm glad they axed the Riddler/Penguin.

[Captain Tightpants]

Eh. Don't like Strange as a villain, largely because of his zombie henchmen. Too wacky.

[terminus]

Were I a betting man - my money for the villains would fall on one of the following: Black Mask/Catwoman/Talia Al Ghul. I wouldn't mind seeing them use Mr Pyg from the recent comics either, but he wouldn't be iconic enough - although his whole mask thing would be awesomely creepy if done right.