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SPOILERS: The Dark Knight Rises (2012)


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#511 killkenny kid

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:32 AM

Stana Katic is Catwoman.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:34 AM

Stana Katic is Catwoman.

I love her as Corinne Veneau in Quantum of Solace but is that a wish or did you hear something?

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:40 AM

Stana Katic is Catwoman.


Now THAT would be some casting that I could fully support. I've never been a fan of the Catwoman character, but if they got Stana Katic to play the part, I would love to see the character in BATMAN 3.

#514 killkenny kid

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:00 AM




Stana Katic is Catwoman.


Now THAT would be some casting that I could fully support. I've never been a fan of the Catwoman character, but if they got Stana Katic to play the part, I would love to see the character in BATMAN 3.



This is just a wish, Dalton. But, we can dream. ;)

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:05 AM

This is just a wish, Dalton. But, we can dream. ;)


Well, perhaps the fact that she's voicing a character for the next Batman video game will help her odds. While I'd probably see the new Batman film at some point, Katic's presence would guarantee my seeing the film in theater. But, like you said, all we can do is wish for it at this point. ;)

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:18 AM

I think enough of these films have been done.

But, if I recall correctly, Mr. Harmsway had quite a clever idea for a plot to the next film.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:02 AM

Enough? The end of "TDK" sets the story up perfectly for a sequel which I believe may very well be a masterpiece. I wouldn't mind Warner Bros. giving the series a rest for a while after the third Nolan film, though.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:02 PM

THE DARK KNIGHT does end on a cliffhanger of sorts. It wouldn't be right to end it there.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:17 PM

Well, I think you could finish it with THE DARK KNIGHT insofar as its ending (while a cliffhanger) does complete the "Batman begins" character arc. The origin story is over and our hero is now The Dark Knight. What more do we need? The two Nolan efforts now act as prequels to the Burton and Schumacher flicks (if one is prepared to fanwank the notion that Nicholson's Joker is some sort of copycat of Ledger's).

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:22 PM

Well, I think you could finish it with THE DARK KNIGHT insofar as its ending (while a cliffhanger) does complete the "Batman begins" character arc. The origin story is over and our hero is now The Dark Knight. What more do we need?

True. But it's quite clear that Nolan's Batman isn't really anybody else's Batman. As such, it needs its own conclusion. Nolan apparently understands that, though (hence his comments that BATMAN 3 is pretty much going to be about finishing what they started, about bringing an end to the series).

The two Nolan efforts now act as prequels to the Burton and Schumacher flicks (if one is prepared to fanwank the notion that Nicholson's Joker is some sort of copycat of Ledger's).

That would be some serious fankwankery.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 05:53 PM

That would be some serious fankwankery.


Sure, but us Bond fans have fanwanked our way out of tighter corners than that.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 06:51 PM

Sure, but us Bond fans have fanwanked our way out of tighter corners than that.

I dunno. The Joker getting a whole different start in BATMAN '89, as well as Harvey Dent being alive and active, is a pretty big hurdle. I'm not sure the Bond franchise has ever offered something quite as hard as that (the closest thing, I'd suppose, is that Bond meets Felix Leiter for the first time twice, but that's not too bad).

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 07:28 PM

Sure, but us Bond fans have fanwanked our way out of tighter corners than that.

I dunno. The Joker getting a whole different start in BATMAN '89, as well as Harvey Dent being alive and active, is a pretty big hurdle.


Well, like I say, Jack Napier is a copycat of Ledger's joker. As for Dent.... well, it turns out that he survived THE DARK KNIGHT and (since his reputation remained intact) continued in his career. Oh, and of course, he got his face fixed up all nice via pioneering surgery.

Easy. :P

Bond meets Felix Leiter for the first time twice, but that's not too bad


Indeed it isn't. It's child's play if, like me, one subscribes to the codename theory ("Felix Leiter", of course, is also a codename).

#524 Harmsway

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 09:11 PM

Well, like I say, Jack Napier is a copycat of Ledger's joker. As for Dent.... well, it turns out that he survived THE DARK KNIGHT and (since his reputation remained intact) continued in his career. Oh, and of course, he got his face fixed up all nice via pioneering surgery.

Easy. :P

But how do you account for BATMAN '89's Joker being the killer of the Waynes, when the killer of the Waynes in BEGINS, Joe Chill, is axed by Maroni? ;)

#525 Loomis

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 11:50 PM

Well, like I say, Jack Napier is a copycat of Ledger's joker. As for Dent.... well, it turns out that he survived THE DARK KNIGHT and (since his reputation remained intact) continued in his career. Oh, and of course, he got his face fixed up all nice via pioneering surgery.

Easy. :P

But how do you account for BATMAN '89's Joker being the killer of the Waynes, when the killer of the Waynes in BEGINS, Joe Chill, is axed by Maroni? ;)


Well....

Maybe the guy who kills the Waynes in BATMAN BEGINS is indeed Jack Napier, but another lowlife named Joe Chill who looks a lot like him gets framed for the crime.

Or....

The first half of BATMAN BEGINS is just a nightmare on Bruce Wayne's part.

Or maybe....

"Bruce Wayne" is a codename.

:P

#526 killkenny kid

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 03:24 AM

Please, no codenames. :D

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:11 AM

How about:

Hugo Weaving as the Riddler

Charlize Theron as Catwoman

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 12:11 PM


Well, like I say, Jack Napier is a copycat of Ledger's joker. As for Dent.... well, it turns out that he survived THE DARK KNIGHT and (since his reputation remained intact) continued in his career. Oh, and of course, he got his face fixed up all nice via pioneering surgery.

Easy. :P

But how do you account for BATMAN '89's Joker being the killer of the Waynes, when the killer of the Waynes in BEGINS, Joe Chill, is axed by Maroni? ;)


Well....

Maybe the guy who kills the Waynes in BATMAN BEGINS is indeed Jack Napier, but another lowlife named Joe Chill who looks a lot like him gets framed for the crime.

Or....

The first half of BATMAN BEGINS is just a nightmare on Bruce Wayne's part.

Or maybe....

"Bruce Wayne" is a codename.

:P

Or how about a time traveling dead Bruce Wayne resurecting?
(see what I mean, all you "the Return of Bruce Wayne" readers?...)

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 04:38 PM

The sequel to the excellent Batman: Arkham Asylum has a name, and it's Arkham City.

Stana Katic has been cast to play the voice of Talia Al Ghul.

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1110583p1.html

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 05:14 PM

Oh fantastic. I LOVED Akham Asylum, no doubt I'll love this one too.

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 05:37 PM

The sequel to the excellent Batman: Arkham Asylum has a name, and it's Arkham City.

Stana Katic has been cast to play the voice of Talia Al Ghul.

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1110583p1.html


That news has me very excited for the next Batman game (not that there was any reason not to be, as the last one was great). I'm a huge fan of Katic, and would love to see her appear in the next Batman movie as well (and the next Bond for that matter).

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 05:52 PM


The sequel to the excellent Batman: Arkham Asylum has a name, and it's Arkham City.

Stana Katic has been cast to play the voice of Talia Al Ghul.

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1110583p1.html


That news has me very excited for the next Batman game (not that there was any reason not to be, as the last one was great). I'm a huge fan of Katic, and would love to see her appear in the next Batman movie as well (and the next Bond for that matter).



The only disappointing thing about this is that this is the last time Mark Hamill is voicing the Joker. Hopefully that's not the same for Kevin Conroy voicing Batman.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:50 PM

I have heard though, that the Riddler has OCD and has to tell Riddles, to keep him remotely sane, even though he's insane. I hope Nolan does something with this idea.

I was watching a History channel special that broke down the psychology of Batman and other bat-related characters, some time ago, and they compared The Riddler to the likes of BTK and the Zodiac killer in that they intentionally leave clues behind to be found and taunt the law because they feel that they need the recognition. I hope that this is made part of Nolan's Riddler's psyche, and I do like the idea of him having OCD as well. I very much like the idea of Batman villains having real-world problems. The Joker was schizophrenic, psychotic, and just about everything else. Two-Face had everything taken away from him, including his beliefs. The Riddler should be jealous, lonely, an outcast his entire life, who wants nothing more than to be famous and known.

CBn, as far as I know, were the first to put Casey Afleck as the Riddler out there, and I still really like the idea. Anybody seen The Killer Inside Me? That movie is [censored] up, and Afleck is great in it. Joseph-Gordon Levitt has also been heavily rumored lately, and I like that just as much. Guy Peirce would be awesome too. I'd personally like to see Eva Greene, Emily Blunt, or a brunette Diane Kruger as Catwoman. Hugo Strange and Calendar Man would be interesting characters to add in there as well, and John Malkovich and Jackie Earle Haley would be great in those roles, respectively; though the main plot of the film should revolve around the Holiday Killer, but with Batman as one of the suspects. The public now believes that he's broken his own morals and killed 5 people... who's to say he now wouldn't do it again. That could be a very interesting story. And it should be called Shadow of the Bat.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 08:49 PM

As for Dent.... well, it turns out that he survived THE DARK KNIGHT and (since his reputation remained intact) continued in his career. Oh, and of course, he got his face fixed up all nice via pioneering surgery.

Easy. :P


And became black, kind of like a reverse Michael Jackson? :P

Anyway, my dream cast for the "Batman 3" villains still remains the same.

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Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman

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Edward Nash, AKA The Riddler

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:31 PM

Anyway, my dream cast for the "Batman 3" villains still remains the same.

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Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman

Posted Image
Edward Nash, AKA The Riddler


Those are good suggestions, and probably somewhat likely considering that both starred in Nolan's INCEPTION, as Nolan likes to bring actors back from his previous films. Neither would be my top choice for either role, but at the same time, both would be excellent choices.

My choices would be Stana Katic as Catwoman and Casey Affleck as the Riddler.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 01:41 AM

To be honest, I'm quite surprised the Riddler is in this. He was always my favourite villain, but I really thought Nolan would explore paths with less-known or under-used villains. Like the Mad Hatter... no need to make them as campy as they may seem in some of the early comics. Nolan could do something interesting with some of the lesser utilised characters and put his own stamp on them. But I suppose he'll do the same with the Riddler. Then again, maybe he'll have a change of heart, and before long we'll be choosing which celebrity should be cast as the Nolan interpretation of Egghead or King Tut....

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 02:09 AM

I reckon Neil Patrick Harris would be great as the Riddler. We might know him as Doogie Howser and Barney Stinson, but the Riddler would be such a departure from his norm that it could well be a similar casting scenario as Heath Ledger playing the Joker - seemingly odd, but makes sense once you watch it play out on the big screen.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:01 AM

Anyway, my dream cast for the "Batman 3" villains still remains the same.

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Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman

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Edward Nash, AKA The Riddler


Looks like that took a while to come up with.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 02:53 PM

Anyway, my dream cast for the "Batman 3" villains still remains the same.

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Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman

Posted Image
Edward Nash, AKA The Riddler


Looks like that took a while to come up with.


Actually, I had Marion Cotillard in mind long before I even saw her/knew she was going to be in "Inception". Seeing DiCaprio and her together on screen sealed the deal for me, though. And tdalton is right, Nolan does tend to work with some of the same actors on multiple occasions, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine that at least one of them has a very good chance at appearing in his final Bat-film. That's assuming that Riddler and Catwoman are the villains, of course.

To be honest, I'm quite surprised the Riddler is in this. He was always my favourite villain, but I really thought Nolan would explore paths with less-known or under-used villains.


The Riddler is not confirmed as the villain in "Batman 3" as of yet. People are just speculating that Nolan will go with him because he's one of the only remaining 'top tier' Batman villains (along with Catwoman and Penguin, the latter of whom Nolan has gone on record saying he has no interest bringing back to the big screen) and his pathos and MO make sense in the gritty, down to earth Nolanverse.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:39 PM

It would be interesting to see how different Nolan would make his version of The Riddler to his version of The Joker, in a poor mans hands, they could come off as far far too similar. I'm not sure I'd pick DiCaprio for The Riddler, though - out of the guys from Inception, my choice would be to go with Joseph Gordon Levitt. Though he could be a bit too young.