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[bond 16.05.72]

Latest rumour is that Nolan plans to shoot Batman 3 entirely Imax, plus details about Inceptions plot.

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Edited by bond 16.05.72, 26 August 2009 - 12:46 PM.

[Harmsway]

I figured this rumor would crop up. Of course, it would be phenomenal to have BATMAN 3 shot entirely in IMAX. The difference in quality and size is simply stunning.

[tdalton]

Interestingly, I did a YouTube search for Harley Quinn and came up with at least one rather long video fan tribute to Rosamund Pike suggesting that she become the new Harley Quinn. I actually see Rosamund as a strong possibility for Catwoman, but Harley Quinn? Not so much. I would like to see Harley Quinn show up in a Batman film, though. Perhaps even have an all-girl team of villains take on Batman. In Nolan's hands it could be done right. Nolan could explore the dynamics between men and women as Batman has to fend off Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Catwoman.

I don't see Pike as the right actress for Harley Quinn either. As Catwoman? Maybe, but I don't have an opinion one way or the other since I don't particularly want to see that character in another Batman film.

As for Harley Quinn, I've been a fan of the idea of Kristen Bell as Quinn, which has been something proposed by quite a few people on other message boards. I think that she could bring the right personality and character nuances to the screen for that character, although I'm sure that there are others that could do a great job in the role as well.

[Harmsway]

Harley Quinn's fine, but unless BATMAN 3 is bringing back the Joker, then she should stay out of it. Harley's only compelling when playing off of the Joker.

[tdalton]

Harley Quinn's fine, but unless BATMAN 3 is bringing back the Joker, then she should stay out of it. Harley's only compelling when playing off of the Joker.

Of course, that's the only way that bringing her in would work. I've always been someone who wanted to see the Joker return for BATMAN 3, and I still hope that they decide to bring the character back for the next film.

[DamnCoffee]

I've just completed Arkham Asylum and do you know something. I don't think just because Ledger is dead the Joker shouldn't return. I was blown away by Mark Hamill's performance in Asylum. It's one of the creepiest takes on the character we've gotten.

I really wouldn't mind him in a movie really. He has the voice, and he's a decent enough actor.

[tdalton]

What about Zoe Deschanel as Harley Quinn? With maybe a sort of punk-rock haircut like Daryl Hannah had in BLADE RUNNER?

In Christopher Nolan's hands I could see him doing something interesting with Harley Quinn. It would give the series a chance to have a female villain that they haven't had since BATMAN AND ROBIN, and a villain that wasn't Catwoman or Poison Ivy. I would also suggest that Nolan is a strong enough writer and director that he could fashion a script around Harley Quinn that didn't revolve around The Joker. She could be someone else's girlfriend, or she could be seeking revenge. After seeing what Nolan did with THE JOKER I no longer believe that anything is impossible. I would've sworn there was no way to make THE JOKER seem fresh and interesting after Romero and Nicholason, but Nolan and Ledger did it.

I very much like the idea of Zoe Deschanel as Harley Quinn. I'd be perfectly fine with either her or Bell in the part, although I think I'd give the nod to Deschanel as, overall, I think she's a better actress.

[bondrules]

I've just completed Arkham Asylum and do you know something. I don't think just because Ledger is dead the Joker shouldn't return. I was blown away by Mark Hamill's performance in Asylum. It's one of the creepiest takes on the character we've gotten.

I really wouldn't mind him in a movie really. He has the voice, and he's a decent enough actor.

I still after all these years, can't assimilate the fact that Hamill is the voice of the Joker.

[Vauxhall]

I’ve seen a couple of reports today (from pretty credible sources) stating that Christopher Nolan is sticking some ideas for BATMAN 3 together and will be turning further attention to the project after he’s done with INCEPTION. Further more, there is also talk of him being involved as a consultant for SUPERMAN 3 as something of a favour to Warner Brothers.

[Tybre]

I still after all these years, can't assimilate the fact that Hamill is the voice of the Joker.

Perhaps it's because I grew up watching that cartoon (and follows up like Beyond), but to me, Hamill is the Joker, hands down. No one'll ever beat him. The man really does a stellar job in the role.

[bondrules]

I still after all these years, can't assimilate the fact that Hamill is the voice of the Joker.

Perhaps it's because I grew up watching that cartoon (and follows up like Beyond), but to me, Hamill is the Joker, hands down. No one'll ever beat him. The man really does a stellar job in the role.

For me Nicholson was the Joker, since I grew up in the 80's. But you are right. Hamill is an absolute monster as the voice of the Joker. It has to be the best "animation" voice ever heard. I can't think of another.

[coco1997]

I’ve seen a couple of reports today (from pretty credible sources) stating that Christopher Nolan is sticking some ideas for BATMAN 3 together and will be turning further attention to the project after he’s done with INCEPTION. Further more, there is also talk of him being involved as a consultant for SUPERMAN 3 as something of a favour to Warner Brothers.

"Superman 3"? Haven't there already been at least five Superman movies already?

Anyway, any positive news regarding the next Batman film, no matter how small, is fantastic. I can't think of a follow-up to a film I've anticipated any more than this one.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I still after all these years, can't assimilate the fact that Hamill is the voice of the Joker.

Perhaps it's because I grew up watching that cartoon (and follows up like Beyond), but to me, Hamill is the Joker, hands down. No one'll ever beat him. The man really does a stellar job in the role.

For me Nicholson was the Joker, since I grew up in the 80's. But you are right. Hamill is an absolute monster as the voice of the Joker. It has to be the best "animation" voice ever heard. I can't think of another.

Yeah, Mark Hamill does a magnificent job as the Joker. If anyone could ever follow up Heath Ledger's incredible performance in The Dark Knight, it's Hamill. He would be my one and only choice to take over the role from Ledger.

[Vauxhall]

I’ve seen a couple of reports today (from pretty credible sources) stating that Christopher Nolan is sticking some ideas for BATMAN 3 together and will be turning further attention to the project after he’s done with INCEPTION. Further more, there is also talk of him being involved as a consultant for SUPERMAN 3 as something of a favour to Warner Brothers.

"Superman 3"? Haven't there already been at least five Superman movies already?

Should have said SUPERMAN 3.0 - it's yet another reboot apparently.

[Tybre]

I’ve seen a couple of reports today (from pretty credible sources) stating that Christopher Nolan is sticking some ideas for BATMAN 3 together and will be turning further attention to the project after he’s done with INCEPTION. Further more, there is also talk of him being involved as a consultant for SUPERMAN 3 as something of a favour to Warner Brothers.

"Superman 3"? Haven't there already been at least five Superman movies already?

Should have said SUPERMAN 3.0 - it's yet another reboot apparently.

Oh God, they're still changing the title and all that? First it's going to be a sequel to Superman Returns. Then they're talking about resurrecting Flyby. Then it's "we're going to do a reboot" which became "we're going to make a dark, gritty, realistic reboot" (as per their decision in the wake of Dark Knight to make all future superhero films dark, etc etc etc). Then they were talking about doing something similar to Birthright. Last I heard they were stalling the project, but that was a while back. When did it get this title?

[SecretAgentFan]

It doesn´t have any title and still is just a rumor like all the others before.

The only project that had been commissioned, I understand, was a Bryan Singer-directed sequel.

With all the legal problems surrounding the SUPERMAN franchise the last information I read was that WB will lose some rights in 2012.

If the rumor about Nolan re-booting the franchise is true I think he is the right guy for it. But I don´t expect him to do SUPERMAN the same way he re-booted BATMAN. So... let´s all relax, shall we?

[DamnCoffee]

Oh, ere...

'Batman 3' plot rumours surface online

According to IGN, the basis for the script is already complete, following reports that David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan started work on the franchise's third instalment last month.

A source at Warner Bros apparently claimed that the film will centre around The Riddler as the main villain, with Arkham Asylum providing one of the story's main backdrops.

Several other classic foes are also allegedly in line for cameo appearances, including The Penguin and Mr Freeze.

The insider added that Barbara Gordon could face a more prominent role in the new film and that Dick Grayson may make an appearance, although it is unlikely to be as Robin.

[dinovelvet]

I’ve seen a couple of reports today (from pretty credible sources) stating that Christopher Nolan is sticking some ideas for BATMAN 3 together and will be turning further attention to the project after he’s done with INCEPTION. Further more, there is also talk of him being involved as a consultant for SUPERMAN 3 as something of a favour to Warner Brothers.

"Superman 3"? Haven't there already been at least five Superman movies already?

Can't wait to see who's playing Gus Gorman this time!

[Vauxhall]

Oh, ere...

'Batman 3' plot rumours surface online

According to IGN, the basis for the script is already complete, following reports that David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan started work on the franchise's third instalment last month.

A source at Warner Bros apparently claimed that the film will centre around The Riddler as the main villain, with Arkham Asylum providing one of the story's main backdrops.

Several other classic foes are also allegedly in line for cameo appearances, including The Penguin and Mr Freeze.

The insider added that Barbara Gordon could face a more prominent role in the new film and that Dick Grayson may make an appearance, although it is unlikely to be as Robin.

Hmm... The sheer volume of new, yet iconic, characters seems to contradict Nolan's previous thoughts. I like the idea of a prominent Arkham though. Well, at least the period of speculation has begun. Better than nothing.

[DamnCoffee]

I feel that this is too similar to Arkham Asylum to be genuine. I don't think Nolan would bring back the Joker too soon after Ledger, either. Ah well, let the speculation begin!

[Harmsway]

Oh, ere...

'Batman 3' plot rumours surface online

According to IGN, the basis for the script is already complete, following reports that David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan started work on the franchise's third instalment last month.

A source at Warner Bros apparently claimed that the film will centre around The Riddler as the main villain, with Arkham Asylum providing one of the story's main backdrops.

Several other classic foes are also allegedly in line for cameo appearances, including The Penguin and Mr Freeze.

The insider added that Barbara Gordon could face a more prominent role in the new film and that Dick Grayson may make an appearance, although it is unlikely to be as Robin.

I have no doubt that Christopher Nolan has cracked the story for BATMAN 3, or that Jonathan Nolan and David Goyer are working on the screenplay. Enough sources have verified it that it's likely true.

Any other details, like which figure will be the villain or which cameos are expected to be present? Utter hogwash. Given the intense secrecy over THE DARK KNIGHT, and the sea of inaccurate rumors that attended that production, I'm skeptical that anybody really knows anything about it.

[sharpshooter]

I don't believe this for a second.

If they show Victor Fries, they have confirmed the possibility Mr. Freeze can exist in Nolan’s world. Even if we never see him in his full glory. And that is absurd. Nolan’s Batman cannot accommodate such villains like Mr. Freeze as seen in the comic books. And if they are used, they are massaged and altered in ways so that they can.

Doing such alterations to Mr. Freeze would lose the very core character, being he is below freezing in a suit and wields an ice cannon. You cannot escape that. Nolan can only really utilize The Riddlers and Jokers, who are essentially nut jobs who dress up in suits.

I've also read these "rumours" claim there will be a reference to Metropolis. I just can't see Nolan violating his real world with a reference to a City where an invulnerable alien flies around fighting super-villains.

[Tybre]

Only way I could see Fries working in a Nolan film and not seriously changing him is to take him back to Mr 0 and obviously tweak. But even then...the fact of the matter is, Fries originated a stock villain who became a stock joke villain under the 60s show (okay, to be fair, that whole show was a joke). At the end of the day, that's really all he is.

[Messervy]

Nolan can only really utilize The Riddlers and Jokers, who are essentially nut jobs who dress up in suits.

I agree with your view that Nolan's Batman is set on a more or less realistic world, hence ruling out the likes of Freeze. But I would not agree with your point on Riddler being the only available villain. You have plenty of other "realistic" villains around in the Bat family: Hush, Penguin, Hugo Strange, Bane, Deadshot, Solomon Grundy, Harley Quinn, to name but a few.

[sharpshooter]

But I would not agree with your point on Riddler being the only available villain. You have plenty of other "realistic" villains around in the Bat family: Hush, Penguin, Hugo Strange, Bane, Deadshot, Solomon Grundy, Harley Quinn, to name but a few.

Of course. I know that. I did not state only The Riddler can be used. I stated only The Riddlers and Jokers can be used in Nolan’s world. Those types. Villains who are much less fantastical.

On the topic of Bane, I doubt they could have venom in Nolan’s universe. The whole thing about venom is that it enhances someone's physical strength to almost superhuman levels immediately, whereas regular steroids need a lot more time to really kick in. I think if Bane was used, he should show up on the scene already highly muscular and permanently so. Probably without any explanation as well.

[Messervy]

Granted. But since we've had a gas that can trick one into seeing his worst nightmares come true, why would a special kind of venom not work?

Anyway, the point is to avoid villains such as Killer Croc or Darkseid, obviously!

[SecretAgentFan]

I agree completely, Gravity!

[Mr Teddy Bear]

As for Nolan working on a new Superman project...my gut instinct tells me that he won't be bringing Bryan Singer back to direct, and my guess is that without Singer, and with a new producer/consultant on board, they're not going to bring back Routh either. A pity, really, because I thought Superman Returns and Routh were on the right track and that the movie was a good film to restart the series.

SUPERMAN RETURNS made slightly more money at the box office than BATMAN BEGINS did, yet the WB considered SUPERMAN RETURNS to be a disappointment. I realize that they hoped for, and needed, bigger returns considering the pre-production costs that carried over from the aborted film attempts of the late 90's, but is that really the responsibility of the audience to make sure a film makes cost?

A reboot is simply not necessary. They need to just bring Routh back, drop him into Metropolis with a cool villain that is not Lex Luthor and just get on with it.

Yup, I hope they don't do another freaken origin story. Just get on with it with Routh in the lead, please.

[Harmsway]

Nolan speaks about BATMAN 3!

"Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story, and in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story. We have a great ensemble, that's one of the attractions of doing another film, since we've been having a great time for years."

[...]

"I’m very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we’ve done with the characters,” Nolan said.“My brother has come up with some pretty exciting stuff. Unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful. Viewing it as an ending, that sets you very much on the right track about the appropriate conclusion and the essence of what tale we’re telling. And it harkens back to that priority of trying to find the reality in these fantastic stories. That’s what we do."

[coco1997]

Nolan speaks about BATMAN 3!

"Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story, and in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story. We have a great ensemble, that's one of the attractions of doing another film, since we've been having a great time for years."

[...]

"I’m very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we’ve done with the characters,” Nolan said.“My brother has come up with some pretty exciting stuff. Unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful. Viewing it as an ending, that sets you very much on the right track about the appropriate conclusion and the essence of what tale we’re telling. And it harkens back to that priority of trying to find the reality in these fantastic stories. That’s what we do."

Very exciting stuff! So it looks like "Batman III" is the end of the line, at least for Nolan's Batman universe. I guess I can live with that, as long as he goes out with a bang. If "Batman III" is anywhere near as good as "TDK," we could have potentially one of the greatest film trilogies of all time on our hands.