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[solitaire]

XXX2 will be a huge hit....clearing the way for XXX3:mad:....that's what young boys want these days:rolleyes:

[Righty007]

Tamahori + James Bond = Bad.

Tamahori + XXX = Horrible.

[Doubleshot]

Lee Tamahori + James Bond: the best Bond film of the last 20 years.

But xXx? I simply can't believe this. We've heard so much about Lee Tamahori's next projects and I hope nothing comes of this one.

[DanMan]

Tamahoree and Bond was a winning combination.
Tamahoree and xXx is a loosing combination.

Either way, xXx2 is gonna' tank at the box office.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

please no more tamohori...please

[Tarl_Cabot]

Righty007, you've been waful quiet lately...XXX2? If I'm on a plane I'll watch it.

[MrDraco]

simply put...Bull****.. hated the first...Tahomar shouldn't be alowed near a bond set if he does xx2 thats like praying to jesus and then tipping satan for his work...

[booyeah_]

Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
Righty007, you've been waful quiet lately...XXX2? If I'm on a plane I'll watch it.

can you say air sickness?

[Bond111]

can you say plane crash?

[Tanger]

[sarcasm] OMG I absolutely cannot waith for this movie, I'm just sooooooo excited!!![/sarcasm]

[killkenny kid]

No big deal. This is just a fad that will die soon.

[DLibrasnow]

I don't see this as a big surprise....the script for xXx3 is apparently already done and ready..

[Bond111]

Oh great, another series to force sequels on the public even though they don't make any money.

[DLibrasnow]

That was well publicized when xXx came out on DVD.

[Bond111]

I wouldn't know, because I have vowed to never associate with such garbage.

[brendan007]

Jeez, have the studios learnt nothing from the previous american summer. Movie audiences are sick of sequels, with just about all of them this year being flops. As XXX was terrible in the first place, xxx2 doesn have a chance

[Kristian]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
please no more tamohori...please

Thank you. He's basically Michael Bay's less good-looking twin. He did a decent job on DAD, despite some serious mis-steps: the otherwise competent Jinx having to be rescued TWICE within the same sequence, letting the true identity of Graves come out in such a shoddy manner ("Oh, by the way, I'm that Korean from the beginning with all the cool cars that went over the waterfall" whatever), and not insisting that Pierce Brosnan wear sunblock and get Botox shots during the production.

Show him the door. Tell him not to let it hit his *** on the way out. And wish him to break a leg on the set of XXX2.

Literally.

[ShockTroop22]

if i remember correctly he went to the premiere of the first movie and loved it, he said it wasnt the same as Bond at all, but he liked it alot.

So, who knows, i dunno.

[Triton]

I don't quite understand all the hostility directed at Lee Tamahori. Don't you all realize that the James Bond films are created by committee? Mr. Tamahori cannot exercise much artistic creativity in a James Bond film. I guess that he could be blamed for hiring Lawrence Makoare as Mr. Kil. But Purvis & Wade are to blame for the lack of a character, not Lawrence Makoare or Lee Tamahori.

As for XXX2, Mr. Tamahori has to make a living. I don't know how many art house films that can be created in New Zealand about the Maori or other subjects. But Once Were Warriors is a very good film. If you have not seen it, you should rent it some time.

I also enjoy watching Vin Diesel in the films that he has done, especially The Fast and the Furious. I also enjoyed XXX as an average action adventure film. Nothing spectacular, but enjoyable. The XXX films are hardly a threat to James Bond. Also let us not be too harsh on Vin Diesel, he said some of those things to promote himself and his film.

[Loomis]

Originally posted by Triton

I don't quite understand all the hostility directed at Lee Tamahori. Don't you all realize that the James Bond films are created by committee?  Mr. Tamahori cannot exercise much artistic creativity in a James Bond film. I guess that he could be blamed for hiring Lawrence Makoare as Mr. Kil. But Purvis & Wade are to blame for the lack of a character, not Lawrence Makoare or Lee Tamahori.

Well put, Triton. It's extraordinary how so many people seem to have convinced themselves that Tamahori is solely to blame for all of DAD's flaws. And yet it's Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson (and maybe a couple of others) who decide the direction and tone of each new Bond film, and Neal Purvis and Robert Wade who write the (in this case often very dumb) script. In addition, Tamahori was saddled with two stars (Brosnan and Berry) who had little chemistry and phoned their performances in for much of the time.

Yes, Tamahori may have encouraged things like the "speed ramp" editing and the CGI, and he may have reworked the film's climax to the disappointment of many fans (who for some reason are convinced that the original climax would have been better), but to my mind DAD had the far larger problems of a silly script, undernourished characters and indifferent performances; and there was only so much Tamahori could have done to whip everyone into shape given the short creative leash he was kept on.

Why is Tamahori relentlessly bashed for what went wrong with DAD, but not given much (if any) credit for what went right? (And plenty of things did go right - DAD is far from a total washout; indeed, I like it a lot.)

As for these rumours of Tamahori directing xXx 2, I'd say they're ABSOLUTELY PREPOSTEROUS. About as much chance of Timothy Dalton returning as 007 in BOND 21.

[Triton]

Regarding the use of CGI in Die Another Day, I think that James Bond films are a victim of their own success. We have seen so many innovative and eye-popping stunts over forty years, that you begin to wonder if there are any new stunts that they can do. So in an effort to give us something new, and not kill any stunt men in the process, they relied on CGI in a stunt sequence.

As for the Aston Martin Vanquish, what new gadget could they have added to the car that hasn't been seen yet? The only thing that I can think of is an active camoflauge system (invisibility). It doesn't seem as outrageous when you read that the United State military is working on such a system.

[Von Hammerstein]

Guess I'm the only one happy to see this news. I enjoyed Vin Diesel as xXx, I found the movie to be an interesting take on the spy genre. I don"t think it's threat to the Bond movies any more than the Derek Flint and Matt Helm movies of the 60's were, but still enjoyed them. So I will be purchasing a ticket for XXX2 and XXX3 if there is one.

[Bryce (003)]

Why???????

Eh, we'll see.......

*not bloody likely*

[ChandlerBing]

In XXX2, Vin Diesel is continually mistaken for both the chap on the bottles of Mr. Clean and for an actor.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Von Hammerstein
Guess I'm the only one happy to see this news. I enjoyed Vin Diesel as xXx, I found the movie to be an interesting take on the spy genre. I don"t think it's threat to the Bond movies any more than the Derek Flint and Matt Helm movies of the 60's were, but still enjoyed them. So I will be purchasing a ticket for XXX2 and XXX3 if there is one.

Don't worry, all the hysteria about this and the Jinx spin-off is just fanboys moaning about something . Of course xXx will not harm the 007 series, and neither will the Jinx movie. Barbara Broccoli stated in an interview that the more spy movies out there, the better for 007. During the height of the 007 craze in the 1960s there were numerous spy movies and TV shows and the hunger for more spy dramas that it fueled helped the Bond series.

[Triton]

I know that I am in the minority here, but I am looking forward to seeing this film. XXX was a fairly average and enjoyable action film. I also liked Vin Diesel's performance as Xander Cage, even though he was mostly a slob in T-shirt, jeans, and a jeans jacket. Of course someone like Xander would prefer to drive a Pontaic GTO, than a German or Italian sports car.

Unfortunately, Vin Diesel threw down the gauntlet and said that James Bond was old and tired compared to his character of Xander Cage and the film XXX. I think that he has eaten those poorly chosen words.

XXX is clearly not in the same league as a James Bond film, but what other action films approach the sheer spectacle of a James Bond film? The "exciting" finale of most action films pale in comparison to the pre-title sequence of a James Bond film.

If we demanded that every action or adventure be of the same scope as a James Bond film, we would hardly ever go to the cinema.

[iceberg]

Originally posted by Triton
I don't quite understand all the hostility directed at Lee Tamahori. Don't you all realize that the James Bond films are created by committee?  Mr. Tamahori cannot exercise much artistic creativity in a James Bond film. I guess that he could be blamed for hiring Lawrence Makoare as Mr. Kil. But Purvis & Wade are to blame for the lack of a character, not Lawrence Makoare or Lee Tamahori.

As for XXX2, Mr. Tamahori has to make a living. I don't know how many art house films that can be created in New Zealand about the Maori or other subjects. But Once Were Warriors is a very good film. If you have not seen it, you should rent it some time.

I also enjoy watching Vin Diesel in the films that he has done, especially The Fast and the Furious. I also enjoyed XXX as an average action adventure film. Nothing spectacular, but enjoyable. The XXX films are hardly a threat to James Bond.  Also let us not be too harsh on Vin Diesel, he said some of those things to promote himself and his film.

I agree completely with Triton. A lot of people seem to have short memories here. Lee Tamahori made the most successful James Bond movie. He is only doing what the Broccolis want him to do. Besides what is so bad about bringing Bond up to date. I always said that Bond needs to keep up with the times. I think he did a great job, and the grosses show this. I would welcome him back to the franchise.

[Bryce (003)]

Just dug this up from out of an old file -

Had to share.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Triton


XXX is clearly not in the same league as a James Bond film, but what other action films approach the sheer spectacle of a James Bond film? The "exciting" finale of most action films pale in comparison to the pre-title sequence of a James Bond film.

I don't know, the James Bond finale's have been pretty weak for the last 15 years...the last truly great James Bond finale was probably TLD.

[00Kevin]

I think that if we include XXX in this table, it should be called:

Spoofs, Spies, Spin-Offs and Rip-Offs


as for Tamahori...DAD was good, but I just CAN'T STAND slowmo and stop-motion........expecially when it comes to bond

but if it brings in more fans, who knows.............