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[jwheels]

I didn't like this movie, everything about it. Vin Dweasal is a very, very bad actor. I didn't like him in The Fast and the Furious (or the movie itself, i hate those type of cars with the big mufflers and the spoilers on front well drive cars, i can't stand them) and i didn't like him in this. He had to make a quick on liner after everything he said, and the stunts were ridiculous. The worst one is the avalanch scene. Can somebody explain to me how a man on a snowboard can outrun an avalanch while people on MOTORIZED vehicles could not. Even Bond couldn't outrun an avalanch. I cannot say enough bad things about this movie. especially the title "XXX"? It should be the name of a pørno movie

[Felix's lighter]

It should be the name of Anya Amasova, 'nuff said.

I haven't seen it, but I am curious about it, especially now that DAD is out and so many people are complaining that the OTT stunts are trying to outdo xXx.

[shaolinfist]

I just finished watching XXX and i thought i was just ok. I don't understand how that movie grossed that much money. It was a cheap knock off of James Bond, which is disgraceful. They couldnt come up with anything creative so they had to use elements of Bond in there movie like when he parachutes with the (American flag chute) to the submarine, just like Moore in the spy who loved me. What really made me cringe was when he said the "things i'm gonna do for my country". Holy **** what a jip. I doubt XXX2 and/or XXX3 will pull in the numbers that XXX did. Just a lousy effort all around. In my opinion a solid spy movie would be Spy Game or The Saint. Not this junk!

[Roebuck]

Yup, xXx is an ok, mindless action movie that was released at a time when there were very few action movies playing at the local multiplex. In other words, for many action fans it was better than nothing and made a reasonable (but not staggering profit).
The irony is that the only people still discussing this film are Bond fans. Everyone else forgot about it ages ago. Anybody would think xXx was the first flick to have a go at pinching 007's crown. After all. in 1966 we had Modesty Blaise, Our Man Flint, Matt Helm in The Silencers'. The list goes on, but none of them put a dent in Thunderball's profits.

[JackChase007]

The only reason I saw XXX was to ease my wait until Die Another Day. Obviously, it doesn't come close to being as satisfying a film to watch, but it was somewhat fun, and featured an amusing performance by one of my favorite actors - Samuel L. Jackson. He's the only reason why I'd see the next one.

[11 11]

Well I'm 19 so maybe I'm biased but I loved XXX.

I also think Vin Diesel is awesome.

But supposedly it's geared to people my age and Bond is more like the 15 to 45 age group, so maybe that's why.

I think XXX is good like Bond, just different that's all.

[DLibrasnow]

I liked xXx also 11 11, so you are not alone. I don't think it is necessary to like one or the other. People who just hate xXx because it stars Vin Diesel and takes the p*ss out of Bond quite frankly need to get their head examined.

[WarBird]

I was wondering the same thing shaolinfist, how did xXx make that much money. All it was, was a cheap knock off.

[MarkA]

Well I'm 42. Been a Bond fan since I was 7. Seen everyone on original release since YOLT and I thought XXX was a vastly superior film than DAD. The story flowed better. It was better directed, and the SPX were better. Sometimes I think Bond fans are so caught up in Bond they can't be objective when a film comes along that does the same thing better.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by MarkA
Well I'm 42. Been a Bond fan since I was 7. Seen everyone on original release since YOLT and I thought XXX was a vastly superior film than DAD. The story flowed better. It was better directed, and the SPX were better. Sometimes I think Bond fans are so caught up in Bond they can't be objective when a film comes along that does the same thing better.

I quite agree Mark. I think a lot of times Bond fans like a movie simply because it's a Bond movie.
The Bond movies knocked off a number of movies including one of my all time favorites "North by Northwest" (the helicopter bit at the end of FRWL is acknowledged by EON as a rip off, or as they say it "homage" to NBNW).

[11 11]

I agree I hate to say it but xXx was more entertaining than DAD.

I also found Vin Diesel to be a lot more charismatic than I have ever found Brosnan, etc.

North By Northwest, now just imagine if EON would make a Bond with Pierce like that movie.

That would be sweet. Of course we know they won't.

[shaolinfist]

Diesel more charismatic than Brosnan..no way. I thought he was lame. He does not fit the mold of a spy. Samuel L. Jackson portrayed Diesel's superior well and I liked that female spy (I'm not quite sure of her name), but overall it was just an OKAY movie, nothing special. DAD is a vastly superior movie and no it's not just because I love Bond, I always view a movie objectively, its because DAD was a better quality movie. I highly doubt XXX2 will gross as much money as XXX. Now try saying that about Bond.

[11 11]

Well like I said xXx is geared more for people my age, so I guess I can relate more to a guy like Diesel than a guy like Brosnan who is 49.

I said I liked both movies, but really I agreed with the posts about the pacing and stunts.

xXx was paced way better and the stunts were layed out much better.

[mrmoon]

Originally posted by 11 11
Well like I said xXx is geared more for people my age, so I guess I can relate more to a guy like Diesel than a guy like Brosnan who is 49.

Really, I'm 19 and I can relate to Brosnan much more than I can relate to Vin Diesel, James Bond epitomises 'cool', Vin Diesel epitomises 'i think I'm cool'. A subtle difference but I know which one I prefer.

[rafterman]

I agree^

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by shaolinfist
Diesel more charismatic than Brosnan..no way.  I thought he was lame.

Are you seriously suggesting that Brosnan has charisma?? You cannot be serious, Brosnan has as much charisma as a wet blanket. Diesel is a lot more entertaining to watch than that lame Pierce Brosnan.

[11 11]

I didn't want to say that because I figured Brosnan fans would get so mad, but yes absolutely Diesel is at least 50 times more charismatic than Brosnan.

I would also venture if you did a poll that was among movie fans in general not just Bond movie fans, Diesel would win in a landslide on that one.

[MarkA]

I think you are losing the point of what I was saying. I don't care who is the coolest spy. They happen to be two totally different characters, its just I think XXX is an all round better made movie, and it grieves me to admit that.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by 11 11
I didn't want to say that because I figured Brosnan fans would get so mad, but yes absolutely Diesel is at least 50 times more charismatic than Brosnan.

I would also venture if you did a poll that was among movie fans in general not just Bond movie fans, Diesel would win in a landslide on that one.

Yes I believe you are right....It was a wake up call for me when I was working down in Florida and everyone in the office was talking about how cool Diesel was and how Brosnan was such a dork!

[11 11]

Well I have to say all of my freinds both male and female think Brosnan is well, like you said a dork.

They also think diesel is the top guy around right now, and so cool.

So I think Bond fans are being narrow minded on this issue.

[DLibrasnow]

Bond fans wish that Brosnan was as cool as Diesel and not the brunt of jokes as Brosnan is.

[Mr Trump]

Pierce Brosnan is much cooler than Diesel and it's not often you will hear me complimenting an Irish person unless that Irish person is Roy Keane. I have to admit I haven't seen XXX but what I have seen hasn't inpressed me I don't believe Vin Diesel is in the same class as Brosnan as a actor and XXX just looks a Bond rip off. However I did like Vin Diesel in the fast and the furious and Pitch black which were very good movies but I think Diesel is more of a Arnold Schwarzeneggar actor who I think does great movies but is not a brilliant actor, I also thing Arnie is better than Diesel.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

brosnan is far better than vin diesel, vin dissel is a damn joke, and brozzie has forgotton more than diesel will ever learn

[DLibrasnow]

Well of course you would say that, but look at Brosnan and Vin Diesel without the Bond fan tinted glasses on and you will realize what the rest of the world knows, that Diesel is cooler than Brosnan. Heck, Brosnan is the brunt of jokes. When I was living in Florida the rest of the office would sit aroubnd and talk about uptight and overrated Brosnan, and the majority of the girls had Vin Diesel as the wallpaper on their computers.

[Martini]

Diesel better than Pierce? No way, he looks like a condom filled up with potatoes. And I guess the two XXX sequels will be entitled "Licence to Steal" and "The Plagiator".

[DLibrasnow]

Now wait a minute. The 007 series stole a lot of elements from other movies. The end of FRWL was a shameless rip-off of "North By Northwest" (and EON calls it a "homage", what BS) EON knows as well as anyone that what they really did was rip=off the Hitchcock classic.
And Pierce Brosnan couldn't act himself out of a wet hankie.

[freemo]

Can't say that "cool" or "charasmatic" are words that immediatly spring to mind when I think of either Vin Desil or Brosnan, and I think maybe Joe Blow and John Citizen would argee with me.

Vin Diesel and the characters he plays strike me as the annoying, arrogant, dumb, loud, "I'm so cool" type worshipped by a small, pathetic grunge* of slow-witted punk kids following each others lead, while Brosnan amazes me with his abbility to over act and be bland at the same time.

Not that I'm claiming that my friends make up the "whole world", but most of them (who aren't Bond fans by the way, thought I'd add that since, apparently, Bond fans are incapable of being objective on such matters) can't stand Vin Deisil, and are indifferent towards Brosnan.

* - A "grunge" is what I think is called a collective noun. Like a "flock" of birds or a "pack" of lions. In this case, a "grunge" is made up of more than one slow-witted punk kid.

[mccartney007]

Ohhhh, how I plan on posting my thoughts on this subject when I get time...

[Martini]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
Now wait a minute. The 007 series stole a lot of elements from other movies. The end of FRWL was a shameless rip-off of "North By Northwest" (and EON calls it a "homage", what BS) EON knows as well as anyone that what they really did was rip=off the Hitchcock classic.
And Pierce Brosnan couldn't act himself out of a wet hankie.

There is the helicopter scene in FRWL that is still a homage to me. But XXX is full of stolen scenes and ideas. Brosnan is not Marlon Brando but he still CAN act, whereas Cage is in the league of Chuck Norris and Stepen Seagal. I prefer smart guys using there brain instead of dull steroid-junkies.

BTW: Is this really a Bond FAN forum? Sometimes I get so damn down here...

[License To Kill]

The thought of a Bond fan thinking that Vin Diesel has more charisma than Pierce is shocking and disgraceful. Let Vin go make his stupid XxX rip-off, I won't watch it, he won't make money off of me. When I first saw Fast and The Furious, I was appalled that this actually was made. The acting, wow. My dead grandma is a better actor than Vin Diesel and everyone in that movie, including Rick Yune, as "really bad motorbike-riding, Mac-10 toting gangmember". When I also saw XxX trailer in the summer, I said to myself, "You've got to be joking, another Bond rip." And I vowed then and there, I would not see XxX and never will.


~LTK~