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[Honey Rider]

xXx hasn't been released on cinemas here in Sweden yet. I've
just seen the commersials...but it seems like a real silly film.
And XXX was Anya Amasova's codename in TSWLM.

It could be intresting to watch however. Just to compare
with Bond...

[zencat]

This from Dark Horizons this morning re the xXx sequel.

xXx2: Director Rob Cohen let slip some potential story ideas to Yahoo Movies whilst promoting the first film in the UK this week: "I have two scripts in development right now, One takes place in South East Asia and involves the Malaka Straits pirates and other things that go on from there. The other takes place in Washington DC, where I think our most colorful character will go up against all the grey men in Washington. And I can see mountain-biking sequences on the Capitol dome, things like that where, in a domestic context opposed to an exotic context, Xander gets to shakeup, well, George Bush and all that he represents". Thanks to 'Andy'.


I have to admit I like the Far East "pirate idea" but this D.C. idea...ugh. Ever see Billy Jack Goes To Washington?

This "series" is already on the rocks. The truth is xXx is it didn't make nearly the money Sony thought it would domestically and it did not perform well overseas at all. This D.C. concept feels to me like budget slashing sequel idea forced on the filmmakers by a studio that doesn't have great confidence in agent xXx outside of the U.S. It wouldn't surprise me at all if xXx2 languished in development.

I say two films max--if even that--and then xXx joins all the other Bond wannabes in the ashcan.

[ray t]

i only saw the trailer for that movie and its soundtrack gave me a head ache

[Turn]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zencat
[B]I have to admit I like the Far East "pirate idea" but this D.C. idea...ugh. Ever see Billy Jack Goes To Washington?

Actually, I hope they do go with the D.C. idea just to show them how moronic they can be. Wow, big rebel Vin take on the suits. Please choose this option so we can get this franchise over with as soon as possible so it can take its rightful place as something our grandchildren can chuckle at 30 years from now.

I don't have a problem with XXX or Vin Diesel per say. Just the talk about how original it was supposed to be and putting the Bond series down while so blatantly ripping it off. Entertainment writers thought they were being so original in declaring Bond dead and XXX being the way of the future. These guys moan and decry the lack of originality and they want to praise this? What's wrong with this picture?

[zencat]

Originally posted by Turn
Actually, I hope they do go with the D.C. idea just to show them how moronic they can be. Wow, big rebel Vin take on the suits. Please choose this option so we can get this franchise over with as soon as possible so it can take its rightful place as something our grandchildren can chuckle at 30 years from now.[/B]

I agree!

[Loomis]

But still, it's gotta be better than TOMB RAIDER, surely?

[zencat]

Originally posted by Loomis
But still, it's gotta be better than TOMB RAIDER, surely?

Hey! Watch it there, fella. That's my girl you're talking about!

(Yes, I'm a shameless Tomb Raider fan.)

[Loomis]

Well, I will say something for TOMB RAIDER: at least that movie doesn't take itself too seriously, whereas the people behind xXx seem to think that 40 years of Bond were merely the build-up for their masterpiece.

[Bryce (003)]

I've said/posted the following before :

There's only ONE XXX in my world....

A certain stunning Russian major;)

[Mourning Becomes Electra]

Zencat, even your girl demanded a better script and a new director if she was going to do another, no fool she (well except when it comes to men). But hey at least she much easier to look at that Vin is (even if the men in Tomb Raider were just as bad, ugh)

[daman3755]

I reviewed XXX when it came out here in the States back in August. I tried to like, I honestly did, but it was so horrible that I just laughed at it. I gave the film a C-, that because Vin Diesel wasn't all that bad in it. (Diesel is one of the next big Hollywood action stars, that I can tell you. Him, and Jason Statham.) I just saw The Transporter and that was very Bondian in scope. You have a former U.S. Special Forces soldier turned expatriate performing jobs to pass the days away. He opens a package by mistake, learns about a smuggling operation by one of the guys from "The Fast and The Furious." Then he kicks mucho arsch. The Transporter was a solid action flick, I gave it a B-. The moral? Don't ever let Rob Cohen do an action movie. He's horrible at it. TFATF was a great movie, kudos to Cohen for that. Otherwise, his films are cr*ptacular. (Sadly, my girlfriend believes that XXX is going to be better than DAD. I told her wait til November 22 and we'll see.)

And driving motobikes over the Capital? Sounds like a Jean Claude Van Damme movie to me!

[zencat]

Originally posted by Mourning Becomes Electra
Zencat, even your girl demanded a better script and a new director if she was going to do another, no fool she (well except when it comes to men).  But hey at least she much easier to look at that Vin is (even if the men in Tomb Raider were just as bad, ugh)

Couldn't agree more, MBE. I admit, TR was not as good a movie as I hoped, but I really love the Lara Croft character (and that crazy actress who plays her ) and I'm hoping they'll do better with the sequel.

[chronicliar]

Sorry I though Tomb Raider was bad though not xXx bad. I say the only spy film that has came out in the last ten years that was not 007 that I liked was Mission: Impossible, and MI:2 was entertaining.

I saw xXx back when it came out and I just hated it so much that I finally decided to put my review down to let you all know how I feel.

I really respect Ebert and I read his reviews/ watch his show but lately he has been grading REALLY WIERD! Don't be shocked if her gives DAD a bad grade! Though I hope not seeing how he is a big Bond fan.

[Loomis]

Oddly enough, xXx has just become the latest Hollywood movie to be shamelessly and unjustifiably plugged on British network television news. Channel 4 News just carried a story in which Rob Cohen and Vin Diesel spouted away, and presenter Jon Snow said that the film borrowed from the Bond franchise but was more likely to appeal to young people. Brosnan came in for some ageist stick for being 51 years old (so did other stars, including Bruce Willis and Harrison Ford, whom the report said were about to do DIE HARD 4 and INDIANA JONES 4 respectively). Does NOBODY outside this site care about Bond any more?

[zencat]

Remember that xXx is Sony's revenge film for the McClory mess. A lot of this Bond bashing is rooted in that fight.

If no one minds, I'm going to move this thread to the "spoofs" area where the other xXx threads are located. This thread really isn't about DAD.

[zencat]

Originally posted by chronicliar
I really respect Ebert and I read his reviews/ watch his show but lately he has been grading REALLY WIERD! Don't be shocked if her gives DAD a bad grade! Though I hope not seeing how he is a big Bond fan.

Thus far I think Ebert has given every Pierce movie a thumbs up. I'd be surpised if he didn't like DAD. If he likes the villian, he likes the film.

[Bender]

since I saw xXx like 2 months ago I have been trying to figure out what it reminded me of, and I just figured it out, a MOUNTAIN DEW commercial! xXx is nothing more then a 90 minute Mountain Dew Commercial.

[General Gogol]

XXX is just another ripoff of Bond but even more far fetched. It had to be the dumbest film I saw last year. Have a great day!!!!

[WarBird]

Well I'm sad to say I've seen it even though I'm highly opposed to the stupid film. The good thing is I didn't pay, my dad did. It was a boring watching him ripe off Bond like that. Besides me and my dad we were the only two in the theater. How about that for ratings.

[Felix's lighter]

I'm not so sure xXx's performance at the box office is such a good thing. To us, xXx is a blatant - even insulting - ripoff, but to Joe Moviegoer it's a Bond-style film. Before its release, I figured xXx would provide a pretty good indicator of the overall popularity of the spy movie genre. I was actually planning to see it before Vin Diesel started talking trash about Bond. Looks like Sony has its own promotional difficulties - in the person of one Vin Diesel.

[Roebuck]

Why do people get so bent out of shape about xXx?
It's a switch your brain off at the door multiplex action flick. And a passably entertaining one at that. Films have been plagiarising/spoofing Bond for the best part of forty years and will continue to do so. (What's 'Tuxedo' but Jackie Chan's take on 007?)

Actually there's a snowboarding sequence in xXx that would have made a killer pre-titles for a Bond film.

[Simon]

It's a rip-off, it knows where it wants to go, it unashamedly going down that path with a modicum of success.

Vin Diesel has presence, the rest of the cast look a little out of place and not up to par. Argenta looks 15 and probably should have been in a high school flick or two before hitting this level (not her fault, the producers')

At the end of the day, it is a Saturday night movie and has never advertised itself as anything else.

[brendan007]

at first i hated it because it was a bond rip off. then when i saw it i hated it because it is dumb. it might be a switch your brain off at the door action movie, but its not even good enough for that rating. im a fan of big stupid action films, but xxx is the worst movie i have seen in a very long time. vin deasel has the personality and screen prescence of a lamp shade.

[Roebuck]

This is slightly off topic but something just struck me. In an interview Tim007 recently posted, Lee Tamahori said of xXx;
''I liked it as action film. But give them 10 years and you'll see what happens. 'Lethal Weapon' were four, 'Die Hard' three. I don't believe XXX will make more than three. John Calley from Sony doesn't like the Broccoli Clan. Maybe that was the reason why he praised his movie that way.''
In the middle of directing the biggest flick of his career (and a Bond flick at that) he takes time out to catch a screening of xXx! Could EON at one point have been worried enough by this film to want Tamahori to check it out? Could it have had any influence on the re-shoots and restructured ending for DAD we've heard about?

[JimmyBond]

Its possible. I mean if you had a competitor that was being touted as the new James Bond, wouldnt you want to make sure your product was better? I know I would.

[mrmoon]

I refuse to see this movie, I even ****ed up a date because the girl I was with wanted to see it and I said no. My best mate tried to make me go also but no luck, he said it was pants and he can't wait for Die Another Day, that's another one to ad to my tally of the converted.

[Loomis]

mrmoon, if I'd been in your shoes I'd've gone with the girl to see xXx and then quoted Sean Connery's postcoital line to Luciana Paluzzi in THUNDERBALL: "You don't think I enjoyed what we did this evening, do you? What I did tonight was for Queen and country!"

[JimmyBond]

I will see the movie eventually. Probably when it comes onto video. Theres only so much you can say about something without actually having seen it

[crazy_dog]

Sure xXx is a rip-off from James Bond, but I enjoyed it. As an action movie, but not as a Bond movie, of course.

[CMGN]

I saw it, just to see what the fuss was about.

It was basically a X-Games version of Bond, although it got really funny during the end with that GTO.

For Bond fans like us, it's probably best to ignore this...