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[danslittlefinger]

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=45877

Here's the teaser poster for "Defiance" to tide us over...

Edited by danslittlefinger, 11 June 2008 - 10:54 PM.

[dinovelvet]

If they are doing a good job, where the f-- is the f----- trailer ! ?
I'm tired of waiting, just release this teaser, or watch the movie tank in a flashback to 1989.

[Scamp]

Somewhere in mid-America a man, perhaps looking a little like Kevin Costner, is sitting on his porch watching the sun go down and looking out over his field of corn and listening to a faint whisper of "If we wait nicely...they will release it!". But as he listens more closely what he realises he heard was "Another day gone and still no trailer"!

(Who would have thought that you could have possibly got a mention of Field of Dreams into a forum on the teaser trailer for QoS; but it is bedtime AGAIN and strength and patience are dwindling!).

[Mister E]

Let's see if I can derail the thread a bit. Schucks, everybody else has had a try.

LTK, a film I admire immensely, tanked because the mass American audience wasn't sold on Timothy Dalton and because the movie lacked the sense of fun audiences had come to expect.

Also because it wasn't that good. You forgot that part.

[Mister E]

This is what Wade was talking about BTW:

http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080611l.php

In good news for the production, the first teaser trailer has been finished and looks all set to debut with "Hancock" in three weeks.

[DaveBond21]

This is what Wade was talking about BTW:

http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080611l.php

In good news for the production, the first teaser trailer has been finished and looks all set to debut with "Hancock" in three weeks.

OK, so it will be shown as a trailer before Hancock, but when will it be leaked by the French?

[Quantumofsolace007]

I love KOTCS. I am looking foward to QOS.


When the trailer comes it comes.

[Bondian]

Hey, guys! Miss me?

Nope. But it's bloody good to see you back, my friend.

Yup. There's been some negativity on the Indy movie (myself included) but it's just a movie and not a testicular disease or something.

After my rather pre judged views, I rather like the film now especially after listening to Johnny Williams' quite hypnotic soundtrack.

Welcome back, mate.

Cheers,


Ian

[Jim]

I certainly hope so, but meanwhile, doubt is spreading.

You don't appear to be doing anything to prevent it.

It's some bits of a film.

[Scamp]

OK, it's Thursday, there is STILL no "leaked" trailer and it's raining! What can you do?!

[DaveBond21]

OK, it's Thursday, there is STILL no "leaked" trailer and it's raining! What can you do?!

LOL. When are the French going to pull their finger out and leak the bloomin' thing???!!!

[whitesox]

OK, it's Thursday, there is STILL no "leaked" trailer and it's raining! What can you do?!

LOL. When are the French going to pull their finger out and leak the bloomin' thing???!!!

I'm French and I'd like to be able to do something

[Scamp]

I am certain that every able fingered French Bond fan has been scouring the internet for weeks so that they can continue to hold the honour of "we got hold of the trailer first".

Do we know from the various sources around the place whether ANYBODY who dubs the films have done thier dubbing yet? I recall that various people had been given to understand that nothing had happened, but that was in the heady days of a week ago! Any further news!

[Simon]

If Eon are reading this, they must be howling by now...

"I want My trailer."

Deary me.

[Zorin Industries]

Hey, guys! Miss me? I've been working solid for months at my new job, but am emerging to let you know that an item on Dark Horizons says the trailer will, indeed, appear with "Hancock." Just sayin'.

And BTW ... as someone who has studied and written about film most of his life ... let me just say that I'm becoming increasingly disenchanted, not only with some of the Bond "fans" on this site, but with film fans in general. I learned to watch a film solely for what it was, not for its resemblance to other films or its capacity to spike my blood pressure. There's such a thing as expectations. There are far too many film fans who will totally on a film simply because it doesn't sufficiently excite them involuntarily. OR even if the trailer is a dud. Or, worse yet, even if the trailer is LATE.

To those "fans," I say, "Get over yourselves." Even on a bad film, the people involved are immensely more talented and smarter than you. (I've seen some of your "productions" on places like YouTube. You ain't that good.) Making a great movie on a budget is like trying to park an oil tanker on a dime the first time. You'd better be really good at what you do, but also, you'd better be able to roll with the unforeseen changes and delays and accidents that will occur while trying to tell a story over a 12-week period.

I'm not saying that we should all just accept what Hollywood tosses at us and not grumble when it's phoned in. But there's also such a thing as setting yourself up as Henry VIII, sitting dully on your throne and daring the jester to entertain you.

I saw "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and thought it was a terrific movie. Not as good as "Last Crusade," but then, after "Temple of Doom," "Last Crusade" was kind of a surprise. Again, expectations.

If a film is getting decent reviews and you're inclined to go see it, give it a break before you walk in the door. And if a film is getting hyped into the stratosphere, do not take that to mean it is necessarily going to bowl you over. Because now you're going to be expecting it to. And no film can live up to that. Ever.

I'm done now. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic: "Wade is a crotchety old ." Discuss.

AT LAST! Someone who agrees with me...or someone I agree with (!). There is FAR too much armchair fantasy film making within film fans - a habit which is usually based on nostalgia for what was, not what now is (hence the "I'm worried that BOND 22 won't be good because Moneypenny and Q are not in it"). I too work in the industry and, believe me, no-one sets out to make a bad film. If some fans (and I don't want to tar all of CBN with the same brush by any means...in fact it would be impossible to do so) had ANY idea what is involved in making a film (the sacrifices, the hours, the stress, the commitment, the last minute resourcefulness and emotional attachment) they may be less inclined to pass judgment.

And I couldn't agree more when you say that film fans should actually try and make some decent cinema. Mousemat fan art and home-made MovieMaker trailers do not constitute.

I don't care when the teaser trailer for QUANTUM OF SOLACE arrives (note I named the film without using fan boy abbreviations..!). Yes I'll be keen to see it, but I'm not going to blast Hollywood, Eon or Sony because it's a day late, a week late or it is attached to a film that rumour says is not very good.

And I liked THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL too. It was a piece of 2008 mainstream entertainment - NOT some psychic portal to all our cinematic youths. I don't know about some fans, but I am grateful that Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas felt compelled enough to be a fixture on the summer blockbuster front again.

Forget trying to relive the past. In my opinion, I personally know a film is good when I have that odd mix of wanting to see it again before it's finished and being oddly saddened that I will never see this film again "for the first time".

It is horses for courses, and THANK GOD it is. But could so-called film fans get with the picture instead of lambasting those that make them for not doing something that way, for making that sequence two seconds shorter than it used to be and using the wrong shade of blood for a chuffing gunbarrel sequence.

[ACE]

Hey, guys! Miss me? I've been working solid for months at my new job, but am emerging to let you know that an item on Dark Horizons says the trailer will, indeed, appear with "Hancock." Just sayin'.

And BTW ... as someone who has studied and written about film most of his life ... let me just say that I'm becoming increasingly disenchanted, not only with some of the Bond "fans" on this site, but with film fans in general. I learned to watch a film solely for what it was, not for its resemblance to other films or its capacity to spike my blood pressure. There's such a thing as expectations. There are far too many film fans who will totally on a film simply because it doesn't sufficiently excite them involuntarily. OR even if the trailer is a dud. Or, worse yet, even if the trailer is LATE.

To those "fans," I say, "Get over yourselves." Even on a bad film, the people involved are immensely more talented and smarter than you. (I've seen some of your "productions" on places like YouTube. You ain't that good.) Making a great movie on a budget is like trying to park an oil tanker on a dime the first time. You'd better be really good at what you do, but also, you'd better be able to roll with the unforeseen changes and delays and accidents that will occur while trying to tell a story over a 12-week period.

I'm not saying that we should all just accept what Hollywood tosses at us and not grumble when it's phoned in. But there's also such a thing as setting yourself up as Henry VIII, sitting dully on your throne and daring the jester to entertain you.

I saw "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and thought it was a terrific movie. Not as good as "Last Crusade," but then, after "Temple of Doom," "Last Crusade" was kind of a surprise. Again, expectations.

If a film is getting decent reviews and you're inclined to go see it, give it a break before you walk in the door. And if a film is getting hyped into the stratosphere, do not take that to mean it is necessarily going to bowl you over. Because now you're going to be expecting it to. And no film can live up to that. Ever.

I'm done now. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic: "Wade is a crotchety old ." Discuss.

AT LAST! Someone who agrees with me...or someone I agree with (!). There is FAR too much armchair fantasy film making within film fans - a habit which is usually based on nostalgia for what was, not what now is (hence the "I'm worried that BOND 22 won't be good because Moneypenny and Q are not in it"). I too work in the industry and, believe me, no-one sets out to make a bad film. If some fans (and I don't want to tar all of CBN with the same brush by any means...in fact it would be impossible to do so) had ANY idea what is involved in making a film (the sacrifices, the hours, the stress, the commitment, the last minute resourcefulness and emotional attachment) they may be less inclined to pass judgment.

And I couldn't agree more when you say that film fans should actually try and make some decent cinema. Mousemat fan art and home-made MovieMaker trailers do not constitute.

I don't care when the teaser trailer for QUANTUM OF SOLACE arrives (note I named the film without using fan boy abbreviations..!). Yes I'll be keen to see it, but I'm not going to blast Hollywood, Eon or Sony because it's a day late, a week late or it is attached to a film that rumour says is not very good.

And I liked THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL too. It was a piece of 2008 mainstream entertainment - NOT some psychic portal to all our cinematic youths. I don't know about some fans, but I am grateful that Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas felt compelled enough to be a fixture on the summer blockbuster front again.

Forget trying to relive the past. In my opinion, I personally know a film is good when I have that odd mix of wanting to see it again before it's finished and being oddly saddened that I will never see this film again "for the first time".

It is horses for courses, and THANK GOD it is. But could so-called film fans get with the picture instead of lambasting those that make them for not doing something that way, for making that sequence two seconds shorter than it used to be and using the wrong shade of blood for a chuffing gunbarrel sequence.

Wade, Zorin Industries - a big
Splendid posts!

[Gernot]

I really don't see the problem. "Variety" reported several months ago that the trailer will come with "Hancock" (and not INDY or any other movie). Why is everybody so suprised now? I think it's nice from SONY that they've already told us months ago when the trailer will be released and now we all have to deal with that date.

[quantumofsolace]

Get over yourself. What makes you think that
'Even on a bad film, the people involved are immensely more talented and smarter than you.'

and Crystal Skull is crap. its 'not as good as Last Crusade.' Correct. but that was crap too IMO

I don't see how film fans can make decent cinema with no money and no knowledge of how to make a film.They know what they like, expect,want,desire from those that do. They pay for it and have every right to hope for it when they've paid for admission.
I'll grumble when i want to!

things like the 'chuffing gunbarrel sequence' do matter to some people

[stamper]

I certainly don't think anyone involved in the buffonery that is Skulls is smarter than me.
If smarter means "don't worry about the transparencies / green screen / inscrutation showing", "hell, don't worry even about people seeing that we badly stuck digitally Ford's face on his double, that's good enough" "who care's about the movie ? It's all about selling more toys" means smart, then I guess I'm dumb.
Plus as long as Brett Ratner will be making films, filmmakers will always be dumber than the audience.

[Pierce - Daniel]

Currently there is a licensing expo in New York. Alot of films are showing alot of new things, there is evena Quantum of Solace presence there. So, we may get a trailer at the expo's close, but I don't know when that is, hopefullt soon.

[Shrublands]

I really don't see the problem. "Variety" reported several months ago that the trailer will come with "Hancock" (and not INDY or any other movie). Why is everybody so suprised now? I think it's nice from SONY that they've already told us months ago when the trailer will be released and now we all have to deal with that date.

umm...But to the best of my knowledge Variety reported no such thing and Sony has said nothing in regard to when we will see the trailer.(link?)

There was something on AICN, reporting that one of their insides has said it would be attached to Hancock but that

[Pierce - Daniel]

BIG ACTUAL NEWS!!!!!!

http://www.bbfc.co.u...B9?OpenDocument
It's ready for release any time now!!!!

[quantumofsolace]

That is actual news!

12A, 1min 51

well done Pierce - Daniel

[Shrublands]

BIG ACTUAL NEWS!!!!!!

http://www.bbfc.co.u...B9?OpenDocument
It's ready for release any time now!!!!

Thanks Pierce - Daniel ! Yes, actual news.

Almost 2 mins long (1,51) that

[col_007]

ah the good old bbfc it might be out soon then if they have cleared it i guess

Edited by col_007, 12 June 2008 - 11:05 AM.

[stamper]

hubba hubba hubba !

[Zorin Industries]

I certainly don't think anyone involved in the buffonery that is Skulls is smarter than me.
If smarter means "don't worry about the transparencies / green screen / inscrutation showing", "hell, don't worry even about people seeing that we badly stuck digitally Ford's face on his double, that's good enough" "who care's about the movie ? It's all about selling more toys" means smart, then I guess I'm dumb.
Plus as long as Brett Ratner will be making films, filmmakers will always be dumber than the audience.

Since when did Brett Ratner personify "film makers"?

And the dated matte paintings of TEMPLE OF DOOM, the model work of RAIDERS and the sometimes lazy CGI of THE LAST CRUSADE, as well as the flying effects of SUPERMAN THE MOVIE and the puppet work of E.T. are all above criticism, are they? Of course they're not. But we were all younger then. We had seen less films and read less magazines about those films (and we didn't have the Internet feeding us everyday's lunch preference for Daniel Craig and whether he has yet filmed a twirl to camera clutching a gun). We just took those films on board for what they were at the time. Ten year olds seeing KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL today are not going in planning to hate it because it uses different technology to its predecessors and fails to reference John Rhys Davies's children from RAIDERS.

I love the community and chat of a site like CBN, but it demonstrates fans are never satisfied when they are around each other's opinions.

A bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Even less than that is more so.

[stamper]

There's a big difference, in the old days, people did the best they could with limited means and tools.
Today, it's inexcusable (just watch CR, most effects are totally invisible)

[Zorin Industries]

There's a big difference, in the old days, people did the best they could with limited means and tools.
Today, it's inexcusable (just watch CR, most effects are totally invisible)

I would not class the toolbox of ILM in the 1980's as "limited".

And no - some of CASINO ROYALE's effects are not "totally invisible". The Miami airport sequence features some shoddy TITANIC style crowd-rendering and the police car being sucked into the jet engines is ludicrous. But so is a British secret agent chasing a terrorist across an American airport and surviving exoloding petrol tankers and roaring planes. It's part of the suspension of disbelief vital to making cinema work for its spectators. It doesn't ruin those scenes for me when watching. How on earth is a police car going to be sucked into a jet engine? For real? Not even Eon can wrangle the Health and Safety on that one.

I think there is a difference in "doing it for real" and making it look real.

If film fans could make landmark cinema, Harry Knowles would be running Universal Pictures by now.

[quantumofsolace]

I think its obvious that the last 2 indy films have been less inspired compared with the energy and enthusiasum of the first 2. Ten year olds are not going to get the sense of awe that the original Raiders 10 yr olds did. The films are not as good. They have poor scripts.
I think what stamper was saying is that in CR they have tried to hide the CGI and other FX. They used it as they had to to tell the story,but most films don't do this. They flaunt it as a way to sell the film