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[marktmurphy]

I'd definitely say that Supremacy is the best of the three; it's snappier, better directed and stays together right up until the end (if you ask me, Identity runs out of steam a little), plus it has a good storyline, which Ultimatum is missing.
They're all great, though.

[tdalton]

I'm not sure about a 4th. They tied it off so well in Ultimatum.

I'm not sure about a fourth film either. SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM were quite poor, IMO, and there really is no need four a fourth film. If they were to bring back Doug Liman, however, then I'd be one of the first in line to see that film, as THE BOURNE IDENTITY was one of, if not the, the best spy/espionage films in recent memory.

quite poor? Really? wow.I think the action scenes were upgraded with Paul Greengrass...

Better action scenes doesn't make a better movie.

Agreed. THE BOURNE IDENTITY had a great mix of action and storytelling, whereas Greengrass' two entries just feel like 2 hour action scenes. Sure, the action is better, but it has to be since there's a rather thin story behind the films. I think that in order for a fourth Bourne film to have anything interesting to bring to the table, new people need to be brought in to steer the series back on course. There are plenty of writers and directors out there who could turn in far superior films to what we were given with SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM, and I think that it's time to make a change and bring some fresh ideas to the series while there's still a chance to shake things up and do something interesting with the character.

[Jim]

They were all very entertaining and I wouldn't mind seeing another one. I'm sure they can come up with another storyline. After all, probably (hopefully) unlikely that the Bond series will end once the "Organisation" thing is through although I accept that Bond has been proven to work with another story whereas Bourne has not.

Still, seems worth another go.

[sharpshooter]

Supremacy is my favourite, but all three are high quality films. I am sure the fourth, with Damon and Greengrass on board, will be up to the same standard.

[HH007]

As Leonard Maltin said, "we're rooting for Bourne not because he's a hero, but by default".

I'm normally a Maltin groupie...

I especially like his in depth review of HAMBURGER... THE MOTION PICTURE.

[Gabriel]

I'd love to see a new Bourne film, but I'd rather see a new director and perhaps see Doug Liman have a little more involvement.

Doug Liman managed to mix serious drama and action with humour and heart. Matt Damon and Franke Potente had a great chemistry which was wasted in the sequels. Paul Greengrass stripped away the humour and brought a weird, pompous liberal political agenda to the films.

Suddenly Bourne wasn't a rogue agent on the run from a corrupt black-ops team; he was a liberal 'underdog' on the run from the imperialist CIA, assisted by the likes of a journalist from The Guardian (bwahahahahahaha!) - most movies would use a fake paper, but Greengrass picked The Grauniad over all the other papers, in another political 'statement!'

I'd love to see a fun Bourne film again. Maybe they can build something out of the Matt Damon/Julia Stiles relationship for the next film: have Bourne rediscover his humanity by having to look for Nicky Parsons.

[Harmsway]

Sure, the action is better, but it has to be since there's a rather thin story behind the films.

I'll grant that for ULTIMATUM. But I won't grant that for SUPREMACY, which has a lot of narrative complexity.

Doug Liman managed to mix serious drama and action with humour and heart.

What humor? The first film is just as lacking in laughs as the rest of them.

[sharpshooter]

There is no room for humour in Bourne. It is all fast paced and purely business. I don't recall any humour in Identity or the others.

[Jim]

Doug Liman managed to mix serious drama and action with humour and heart.

What humor? The first film is just as lacking in laughs as the rest of them.

From memory, there is that light moment when whassface girlfriend deadmeat finds out something or other at a Paris hotel by just asking at the desk rather than following the convoluted scheme envisaged.

S'about it though; they are a bit po-faced.

There's also Albert Finney's accent in the last one; amusing, from a certain point of view.

[sharpshooter]

Now, I know this is early out, but what could the title be - maybe one of the two other books, Legacy or Betrayal?

[Harmsway]

Now, I know this is early out, but what could the title be - maybe one of the two other books, Legacy or Betrayal?

Yeah. Possibly. It would also be easy for them to make up a title of their own.

[Jim]

Now, I know this is early out, but what could the title be - maybe one of the two other books, Legacy or Betrayal?

Yeah. Possibly. It would also be easy for them to make up a title of their own.

The Bourne Yesterday

[Gabriel]

'He Wan't Bourne Yesterday' would be a funny title!

There was humour in TBI, be it Franke Potente's asking a question at the desk of or the Paris car chase, which was intense, but not without wit.

There was also humour in the lead character's lack of humour and Franke Potente's warm, quirky reaction to it.

In TBI, I watched the film because cared about Jason Bourne and Marie and wanted to know what would happen to them next.

With the sequels I watched them purely because I wanted to know what happened next . . . and that's a lot less fun!

[Publius]

I'm not so sure about a fourth movie. I thought Ultimatum ended it just fine, but neither it nor Supremacy (as fun as they were) were as good as Identity. I suppose they'd at least have to finally change the premise (even as a fan it was starting to get stale for me), since I don't know how many more government agencies could be chasing Bourne. He seems to have renounced his hitman past, but would he still be willing to work in espionage or something else that suits his machine-like abilities?

[The Dove]

WOAH!!! A fourth Bourne? YESS!! This is great news.. With each film in the series, they just keep getting better and better!!

[Blofeld's Cat]

Now, I know this is early out, but what could the title be - maybe one of the two other books, Legacy or Betrayal?

Yeah. Possibly. It would also be easy for them to make up a title of their own.

The Bourne Yesterday

To follow the latest trend of name titles "JASON BOURNE" or just "BOURNE" may be the go.

[Bondian]

How about 'Bourne of Solace'.

[Blofeld's Cat]

"BOURNE AGAIN"

or

"BOURNE...AGAIN!?"

[Publius]

"Bourne to be Wiled"? There's a plot in there somewhere, too.

[sharpshooter]

Bourne being signed up by the government and working for them, not being chased would be a change. They could still have assassins after him and chases, but it would be a different slant to it.

But, I rather like The Bourne Legacy's plot.

Is Bourne 4 going to be the last of the series, (I thought Ultimatum was definately the last) or is there a Bourne 5 in this deal as well?

[AngryPolarBear]

As long as the films are making money, there is always possible for follow ups.

[Qwerty]

Some new Bourne 4 details...

http://www.firstshow...on-in-bourne-4/

[Matt_13]

Ehhhh....I love those films but they definitely should have left it alone.

[The Richmond Spy]

Some new Bourne 4 details...

http://www.firstshow...on-in-bourne-4/

Good to hear this might actually happen. A few weeks ago a local radio station aired an interview with Damon as I was driving home from work (mainly talking about Obama since Ohio is a big swing state) and he pretty much said that if Greengrass or Liman would direct, then he would do Bourne 4.

That said, I have no idea where they go with the storyline...and yes, I think Bourne and Bond can co-exist with no problem at all.

[Kristian]

I'd love to see a new Bourne film, but I'd rather see a new director and perhaps see Doug Liman have a little more involvement.

Doug Liman managed to mix serious drama and action with humour and heart. Matt Damon and Franke Potente had a great chemistry which was wasted in the sequels. Paul Greengrass stripped away the humour and brought a weird, pompous liberal political agenda to the films.

Suddenly Bourne wasn't a rogue agent on the run from a corrupt black-ops team; he was a liberal 'underdog' on the run from the imperialist CIA, assisted by the likes of a journalist from The Guardian (bwahahahahahaha!) - most movies would use a fake paper, but Greengrass picked The Grauniad over all the other papers, in another political 'statement!'

I'd love to see a fun Bourne film again. Maybe they can build something out of the Matt Damon/Julia Stiles relationship for the next film: have Bourne rediscover his humanity by having to look for Nicky Parsons.

I like the idea of having Bourne look for Nicky - and therefore, his humanity...

[Tarl_Cabot]

I love the Greengrass films despite the over reliance on making the CIA look evil...can't wait for Bourne 4.First time we'll have a Bond vs Bourne the same year.

[marygoodnight]

I wonder how much Bond 23 will copy Bourne 4?

[Kristian]

I wonder how much Bond 23 will copy Bourne 4?

Ha-ha. Good one. Girl, you better run for cover - we's got some thin-skinned folk up in these parts. I'm just saying.... Love it!

[marygoodnight]

just look at the new indy jones movie, I bet the bond peeps got the part of jones and the ruskie falling thru the glass for their bond art museum fall.lol

[Kristian]

just look at the new indy jones movie, I bet the bond peeps got the part of jones and the ruskie falling thru the glass for their bond art museum fall.lol

Haven't seen it. Loved the Indy JOnes movies when I was a kid. But something about this new one just left me cold. Anyhow, as much as I love the new direction that the new Bond films have taken, would you agree with me when I say that if THE BOURNE TRILOGY hadn't come out, we'd still have Pierce Brosnan in DIE ANOTHER DAY PART 2 - JINX AND JAMES IN DA HOOD KEEPIN' IT REAL?

Hmmm?