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[icecold]

Granted, I'm not as much of a hound with it as I am with Bond so maybe I'm just not looking in the right places but to the best of my knowledge the film is coming out in 2007. I didn't care too much for a while but after rewatching the first two Saturday night I was dying with anticipation like I was walking out the theatre after Supremacy. So what's the scoop? Will there be a trailer anytime soon or something? Is it really coming out next summer? Any help is most appreciated.

[dodge]

Oh,it'll be out next year, I'm sure. Last I heard they were shooting. Maybe they're licking their wounds after laughing at CR last year and calling it a 'copycat'!

[Tarl_Cabot]

They're filming it now...I rather like the contrast for this shoot from CR where we had so much inside pics and info...this one will have more suprises. Let's keep it under the radar please.

[dodge]

They're filming it now...I rather like the contrast for this shoot from CR where we had so much inside pics and info...this one will have more suprises. Let's keep it under the radar please.

Ditto that. Proof of CR's greatness, for me, was the impact it still had on me though I'd been watching clips for months and reading all the spoilers. I hope to enter BU cold. And I'm swearing off spoilers for Bond 22.

[Roebuck]

Oh,it'll be out next year, I'm sure. Last I heard they were shooting.

I heard they were filming in London sometime in November. Bet they'll have to spend a fortune on CGI to remove Craig's face off the sides of all the buses.

Really enjoyed the first two and I'm looking forward to 'Ultimatum'.

[dinovelvet]

Let me take a wild guess...Bourne is on the run from the CIA, again, through Europe, again, so they send some super-assassins after him, again. He fights some of them in too-neatly-over-choreographed dust-ups and eludes others in car chases...again. Snore!

[Damien Hunt]

Let me take a wild guess...Bourne is on the run from the CIA, again, through Europe, again, so they send some super-assassins after him, again. He fights some of them in too-neatly-over-choreographed dust-ups and eludes others in car chases...again. Snore!

This is probably exactly what is going to happen since the whole series took a detour in ther first movie from the books. I am reading Ultimatum now, and I am already upset. Conklin died in the first movie, yet he is a main character in the book. Bourne's girlfriend dies in Supremacy, yet she is alive, and in hiding in the book. Not sure where Hollywood will go with this one.

[Yellow Pinky]

The producers were very upfront from the beginning that they used the concept behind the first book and built an entirely new series around it. They continued down that same road with "Supremacy" and are going the identical route with "Ultimatum". All they wanted was the Ludlum name, the book titles and the concept of an amnesiac spy as a foundation for a new franchise.

[Arch Stanton]

Let me take a wild guess...Bourne is on the run from the CIA, again, through Europe, again, so they send some super-assassins after him, again. He fights some of them in too-neatly-over-choreographed dust-ups and eludes others in car chases...again. Snore!

Pretty much my feelings concerning these films. I think of them as the Seinfeld of spy movies; (they're spy movies about nothing). I read the book for BI after being extremely dissapointed with the movie and found a pretty killer story in the book, (though I got through about 200 pages of Supremacy before I decided I had enough of that one). Also I think Matt Damon isn't a very good actor, (why people take shots at Ben Affleck all the time just because he did a few crappy movies for the money while overlooking Damon's one-dimensional acting is beyond me).

Sorry if it seems I'm thread crapping, but hey, it doesn't say "Bourne series appreciation thread" in the subject line.

[K1Bond007]

Let me take a wild guess...Bourne is on the run from the CIA, again, through Europe, again, so they send some super-assassins after him, again. He fights some of them in too-neatly-over-choreographed dust-ups and eludes others in car chases...again. Snore!

You're essentially right. Mild spoilers (synopsis):

Spoiler

A new government baddie, Noah Vosen (David Strathairn), in the mold of Abbott (Brian Cox) and Conklin (Chris Cooper), wants Bourne dead and he hires Landy (Joan Allen from Supremacy) to find him. All the while Bourne tries to find out who he is (which he does). Details about Treadstone emerge as all this occurs through Europe, Moscow, and New York City.

[DanMan]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks the Bourne films are extremely overrated. I find it ironic how people acuse the Bond films of all being the same, yet the Bourne films all follow the exact same pattern and judging by what we know of Ultimatum, it looks like it's gonna' be just as dull and bland as Supremacy.

[K1Bond007]

Well I liked both films for what they are. I'm sure I'll probably even like 3, but I'll agree that they're all pretty much the same. Considering the franchise isn't exactly going anywhere I'm kinda glad it'll only be a trilogy (of course they'll probably pull an Indy).

[db077]

The only real reason I'm looking forward to this one is because Edgar Ramirez (Choco from the movie Domino) is playing Paz, one of the bad guys. He hasn't done many English language films. (I really wish I could find some American actors that interest me....

AS far as the other films go...they're watchable...but predictable.

Edited by db077, 21 December 2006 - 03:06 AM.

[icecold]

I dont think the Bourne movies are dull or bland at all. Predictable? Not really, I dont think so. I didn't know what was going to happen in the 2nd one and I definitely dont know what's going to go down in the third as I'm steering far from spoilers. Which is what I should have done with CR but I was worried about getting my hopes up after DAD so I kinda had to in order to ease my mind. lol but that's besides the point. The Bourne Trilogy has been very exciting, extremely well done action movies, and Matt Damon is not an oscar caliber actor but he's great in these films. They're some of my favorite movies and I expect number three to best the 2nd just as it did the first.

[dodge]

I dont think the Bourne movies are dull or bland at all. Predictable? Not really, I dont think so. I didn't know what was going to happen in the 2nd one and I definitely dont know what's going to go down in the third as I'm steering far from spoilers. Which is what I should have done with CR but I was worried about getting my hopes up after DAD so I kinda had to in order to ease my mind. lol but that's besides the point. The Bourne Trilogy has been very exciting, extremely well done action movies, and Matt Damon is not an oscar caliber actor but he's great in these films. They're some of my favorite movies and I expect number three to best the 2nd just as it did the first.

Sure, Bourne's a one-trick pony being trotted out for a third time. But the one trick it does is a good one--good enough, at the least, for a final outing. Why? Aside from the snappy direction, Matt Damon is what draws me. For this one role he's perfect. And the main thing he brings is something almost entirely missing in other action films today, except for CR: total focus and commitment. It doesn't matter what percentaage of his stunts he does. He's all there when he is there and that is what counts.

Two examples: In his fight scenes Damon moves like a professional fighter. His center of gravity actually looks lowered. It isn't way up in his shoulders. He's moving with his legs while he keeps the rest of him loose and relaxed. And when he swings, it isn't wild. Economy of motion. Example two: In BI, when he's running across the field, his legs are working like crazy again, yet the rest of his body looks very relaxed.

I know, I know, some will laugh. But though Matt's not the actor that Craig is, in this one regard they're both in the same league: they take their action seriously and are fully committed to doing it well.

[Bucky]

a few pictures from the bourne ultimatum have been posted over at ign

http://media.movies....975/imgs_1.html

nothing that gets me nearly as excited as i got for casino royale images since it is pretty standard bourne stuff. im looking forward to the new bourne as i enjoyed the last two although i hope this one does not leave me feeling as nauseous as the second one did.

[Four Aces]

Oh the vile in this thread!

The Bourne series is great. And here is the Four Aces prediction for the story. He will not be on the run from the CIA. He will be back in the fold, not as a bona-fide agent, but as an independent contractor - kinda like the Blackwater people. He will be given a mission to complete, but at the same time will have to wrestle with bad guys within the agency.

[supernova]

Let me take a wild guess...Bourne is on the run from the CIA, again, through Europe, again, so they send some super-assassins after him, again. He fights some of them in too-neatly-over-choreographed dust-ups and eludes others in car chases...again. Snore!

Pretty much my feelings concerning these films. I think of them as the Seinfeld of spy movies; (they're spy movies about nothing). I read the book for BI after being extremely dissapointed with the movie and found a pretty killer story in the book, (though I got through about 200 pages of Supremacy before I decided I had enough of that one). Also I think Matt Damon isn't a very good actor, (why people take shots at Ben Affleck all the time just because he did a few crappy movies for the money while overlooking Damon's one-dimensional acting is beyond me).

Sorry if it seems I'm thread crapping, but hey, it doesn't say "Bourne series appreciation thread" in the subject line.

I totally agree with the above. I just don't get why Bourne is so BIG, specially in the States. Also think Matt Damon is one-dimensional and would never call him handsome - as is often remarked in reviews. Also in the romance department, definitely no sparks between him and the European heroine. However must say that there are some good hand combats fight scenes in both movies.

[Roebuck]

And here is the Four Aces prediction for the story. He will not be on the run from the CIA. He will be back in the fold, not as a bona-fide agent, but as an independent contractor - kinda like the Blackwater people. He will be given a mission to complete, but at the same time will have to wrestle with bad guys within the agency.

My understanding is that the final scene of Supremacy takes place midway through Ultimatum. Suggests to me the third film will be about paying old debts and tying up loose ends. We could be seeing a variation on the Bourne Vs. Carlos cat and mouse game from the book.

[HildebrandRarity]

The reason we have heard nothing of this film is because James Bond just kicked sand in JB junior's face and JB junior is wondering what to do about it while his handlers go about sucking thier collective thumbs.

James Bond is a genre unto itself worthy of 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 viewings during it's theatrical run with multiple elements working for it whereas JB junior is your run-of-the-mill Hollywood spy/action flick worthy of a single, and at the most, 2 viewings on the big screen.

[Bon-san]

JB junior is your run-of-the-mill Hollywood spy/action flick worthy of a single, and at the most, 2 viewings on the big screen.

Really disagree here. I can watch both Bourne movies over and over. They're very well done in all respects. Definitely not run-of-the-mill, in my opinion.

It's no slight on Bond that the Bourne movies are really excellent. The universe is big enough for more than one good thing.

[K1Bond007]

Oh the vile in this thread!

The Bourne series is great. And here is the Four Aces prediction for the story. He will not be on the run from the CIA. He will be back in the fold, not as a bona-fide agent, but as an independent contractor - kinda like the Blackwater people. He will be given a mission to complete, but at the same time will have to wrestle with bad guys within the agency.

Well that contradicts the screenplay unless you've read a more recent draft.

[Four Aces]

Oh the vile in this thread!

The Bourne series is great. And here is the Four Aces prediction for the story. He will not be on the run from the CIA. He will be back in the fold, not as a bona-fide agent, but as an independent contractor - kinda like the Blackwater people. He will be given a mission to complete, but at the same time will have to wrestle with bad guys within the agency.

Well that contradicts the screenplay unless you've read a more recent draft.

Well then my prediction will be wrong. Wont't it?

[HildebrandRarity]

JB junior is your run-of-the-mill Hollywood spy/action flick worthy of a single, and at the most, 2 viewings on the big screen.

Really disagree here. I can watch both Bourne movies over and over. They're very well done in all respects.

So, my dear Bon-san, how many times did you go see the two JB Juniors at the movie theatre during their release? (I saw Identity twice and Supremacy once on the big screen, just fyi.)

[Four Aces]

JB junior is your run-of-the-mill Hollywood spy/action flick worthy of a single, and at the most, 2 viewings on the big screen.

Really disagree here. I can watch both Bourne movies over and over. They're very well done in all respects. Definitely not run-of-the-mill, in my opinion.

It's no slight on Bond that the Bourne movies are really excellent. The universe is big enough for more than one good thing.

I couldn't agree more. I have watched both over and over, the second one being my favorite. I particularly the Pam Landy character. M could learn a few things from her.

[HildebrandRarity]

But the thing is James Bond movies are utterly unique. For example, did you know that some people go to see them on more than merely one occassion just to look at the main titles sequence or how the song is portrayed from a graphic art point of view?

I dunno...I think the women/sex/romance of Bond or the bizzare nature of the villians add elements to the 007 films that JB junior does not. It is only an opinion.

How many times are they going to repeat the amnesiac-killer-hunted-by-CIA angle before audiences get bored? MI got to three and progressively got worse with the latest getting absolutely trounced by Casino Royale with no 'star' name attached to it.

James Bond just kicked sand in the faces of everyone (JB junior, Tommy Cruise, Vin Diesel, et al) as he walked out of the Bahamian waters and that about says it all.

I can't see myself watching Ultimatum more than twice at the theatre which is about 3 to 5 viewings less than the last several 007 movies for me.

[Kilroy6644]

But the thing is James Bond movies are utterly unique. For example, did you know that some people go to see them on more than merely one occassion just to look at the main titles sequence or how the song is portrayed from a graphic art point of view?

Sure, but how many times a person sees a movie at the theater isn't really a reliable guage of how good the movie is. Some people, no matter how good the movie is, won't see it more than once on the big screen. The last time I saw a movie more than once in a theater was King Kong '05, and that was more about the atmosphere of seeing it in a 1938-vintage theater. I certainly wouldn't have seen it a second time if it wasn't showing there.

I dunno...I think the women/sex/romance of Bond or the bizzare nature of the villians add elements to the 007 films that JB junior does not. It is only an opinion.

True, but then again, Bourne doesn't try to add those elements. There are more ways to do women/sex/romance than just glamorous/exotic/expensive. And what's wrong with a villain not being bizarre? What was so bizarre about Le Chiffre, other than the bleeding eye that we saw, what, twice?

How many times are they going to repeat the amnesiac-killer-hunted-by-CIA angle before audiences get bored? MI got to three and progressively got worse with the latest getting absolutely trounced by Casino Royale with no 'star' name attached to it.

Well, people haven't got bored with the secret-agent-beds-beautiful-women-and-matches-wits-with-eccentric-villain angle yet, and that's been repeated 20 times . I wouldn't really use MI as an example. The first movie wasn't that great to begin with, and the other two only went down from there. BI was good, and BS, despite the initials was also good.

James Bond just kicked sand in the faces of everyone (JB junior, Tommy Cruise, Vin Diesel, et al) as he walked out of the Bahamian waters and that about says it all.

First off, Bond had quite a head start on everybody else. Second, Cruise was in movies that weren't all that good to begin with, and Diesel only did one XXX. The second flopped.

I can't see myself watching Ultimatum more than twice at the theatre which is about 3 to 5 viewings less than the last several 007 movies for me.

Then you must be a Bourne die-hard . I can't see myself watching it more than once on the big screen, just like CR.

[HildebrandRarity]

LOL

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Kilroy Was Here :-)

[Kilroy6644]

Yeah, just thought I'd chime in.

[Loomis]

A couple of stills from the shooting of ULTIMATUM. Very LIVING DAYLIGHTS, eh?

http://www.canmag.co...timatum-preview