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[dinovelvet]

I wonder how much Bond 23 will copy Bourne 4?

Well Bond could always do South American locations...oh, wait.

[killkenny kid]

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=49778


How nice. Now I get to hear Greenface, run his mouth again.

[Cody]

It's funny how Bourne 4 reports always point out that it'll have to be a new story because they're out of Ludlum novels, as if the movies so far have been faithful to the books. Supremacy and Ultimatum already were new stories.

[doubler83]

2010, eh? Isn't Bond 23 supposed to come out in 2010?

Could have Bond vs. Bourne.

Edited by doubler83, 17 October 2008 - 12:48 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Excellent news. Watched THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM again last night, and it will be interesting to see where they take the plot.

[sharpshooter]

Outstanding news. They tied up the series well with Ultimatum, but I'm glad to see Jason back on the screen. I bet it'll be good, the rest have all been. I just wonder what they'll do plot wise.

[Loomis]

Excellent news. Here's the Beeb's report:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/7676070.stm

Universal 'to make fourth Bourne'

Fictional CIA assassin Jason Bourne will appear in a fourth film, according to trade newspaper Variety.

It says actor Matt Damon will reprise the lead role in the fourth instalment of the Bourne franchise, with Paul Greengrass directing once again.

It will be the first Bourne film not to be based on the novels of late US author Robert Ludlum, Variety said.

George Nolfi, who co-wrote last year's Bourne Ultimatum screenplay, will pen the story, it added.

Robert Ludlum wrote a trilogy of Bourne novels before his death in 2001.

Since his death, there have been a further three Bourne novels - all written by thriller and fantasy author Eric Van Lustbader.

Bond criticism

British director Greengrass has directed the last two film versions.

It was previously thought The Bourne Ultimatum movie, which followed 2004's The Bourne Supremacy and 2002's The Bourne Identity, would be the last of the films in the franchise.

It topped UK and US box office charts and made nearly $450m (£258m) around the world.

Last year, Damon dismissed rival franchise James Bond as being stuck in the past.

"The Bond character will always be anchored in the 1960s and in the values of the 1960s," he said.

The suave spy was "anachronistic when you put it in the world we live in today", he added but said that Bourne was no better or worse than Bond.

The latest Bond film, Quantum of Solace, premieres in the UK at the of this month.

[sharpshooter]

I'm now wondering if this will be a final, stand-alone film, or the beginning of another story arc.

[stamper]

What's certain is that Matt needs to lose some weight.

[DR76]

I love the Greengrass films despite the over reliance on making the CIA look evil...can't wait for Bourne 4.First time we'll have a Bond vs Bourne the same year.

But the CIA was portrayed as evil in the first movie directed by Doug Liman.

[Judo chop]

Excellent news. Watched THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM again last night, and it will be interesting to see where they take the plot.

Yeah, it will. It had better be somewhere rather new. The man-on-the-run-in-search-of-his-past has fully expended its novelty, IMO. In order to be interesting and not wear the character too thin (too late?), the new story kinda has to be... not a reboot, per se... but a redirection.

[Tarl_Cabot]

What's certain is that Matt needs to lose some weight.

LOL his head did look HUGE to me in BU...like, not 6 weeks later kinda big.I agree he needs to get his TBS shape again.

"The Bond character will always be anchored in the 1960s and in the values of the 1960s," he said.

Yep. But Isn't that makes Bond wonderful? Aren't today's PC times lame and depressing? Besides, he has given up the cancer sticks...

[SolidWaffle]

I think it's kinda funny that plenty people hate Bourne here. It's just a legitimate competitor. They are good action movies. I'd lvoe to see Bourne become a bigger series.

[col_007]

I think it's kinda funny that plenty people hate Bourne here. It's just a legitimate competitor. They are good action movies. I'd lvoe to see Bourne become a bigger series.

Bourne is not in the same league as Bond as far as am concerned

[ForMathis]

Enjoyed the first, didn't like the second two. The third was kind of annoying all around. Not much really happened and I don't consider the ending a "twist" at all.

I'm interested in this one though, now that the whole "who am I?" thing has run its course hopefully we'll get something fresh.

[Vauxhall]

Now that he knows who he is, shouldn't the character technically be called David Webb in BOURNE 4? (...or THE WEBB IDENTITY as it may be called.)

[ForMathis]

I wonder how much Bond 23 will copy Bourne 4?

Well Bond could always do South American locations...oh, wait.

Hopefully Bond 23 has a different second unit director than QoS, one who goes for a slightly different look that way the Bourne comparisons can be toned down a bit.

[Gabriel]

I never felt that the CIA itself was portrayed as evil in the Bourne films: rather there were shadowy people manipulating areas of the agency.

Greengrass can carry on with his eye-rolling liberal grandstanding about Bourne vs Bond all he likes. I'll happily watch a Bond movie and I'll happily watch a Bourne movie, devoid of the politics, as will most people. If Greengrass thinks sticking a Guardian journalist in The Bourne Ultimatum is supposed to turn us into anti-Imperialist, Bond-hating lefties, he's got another thing coming to him.

The Guardian has never had a good reputation where its journalism is concerned (including among some very good journalists who've worked there!) so the whole business of a Guardian journalist stumbling on Bourne's history struck me as somwhat suspect. The Daily Telegraph or The Times, maybe, but The Guardian? No no no!

The overt politicking in the Bourne films is symptomatic of a disease in a lot modern media: an immature need to force a director's or writer's personal issues into a film/show/book where they're not needed!

[Safari Suit]

If Greengrass thinks sticking a Guardian journalist in The Bourne Ultimatum is supposed to turn us into anti-Imperialist, Bond-hating lefties, he's got another thing coming to him.

I very, very much doubt he did.

[DR76]

I really don't care if the BOURNE movies come off as pro-leftist. However, I do hope that the fourth BOURNE movie will be an improvement over the third film. ULTIMATUM had too much action, at the expense of the drama. And it also had some plot holes. I hope to see less of these problems in the fourth film.

[Gabriel]

I very, very much doubt he did.

Three words:

Cheek. Tongue. In.

Put them in a different order!

[Safari Suit]

In tounge cheek? Yuck!

Ok you got me. I obviously have a poorer grasp of irony, at least that found in the written word. But in my (feeble) defence, there are a few people on the internet who would write such a statement with no tongues or cheeks, let alone having one in the other.

[Blonde Bond]

Well , I hope we get a healthy competition in 2010, with not one, but two good/great spy movies.

I'm thrilled to hear more about Bourne 4 and where the team behind the movie will take the character, now that he remembers everything...

Maybe he joins some new group, doing assignments for the CIA. Just like that other spy does for MI6...

I just hope he'd stop running.

[DR76]

George Nolfi, who co-wrote last year's Bourne Ultimatum screenplay, will pen the story, it added.

Considering my less than admirable views on ULTIMATUM, this does not make me feel any better.

[Tarl_Cabot]

http://www.darkhoriz...s08/081110p.php

Carlos the Jackal is coming to a multi-plex near you...and he'll be played by a treadstone agent...

[SecretAgentFan]

The problem with Bourne for me is this: Adding the documentary, gritty feeling to action scenes was its one big selling point. Apart from that it was... not much more. The Bourne character (in the films) has run its course. He knows at the end of the third film who he is and why he has become an assassin and why he suffered from amnesia. What now? The only way to go is to call him back into action. The whole fourth film is just a money-making decision.

I know. Doing Bond films again and again is motivated by money, too. But the character of James Bond offers so much more. He knows he is a spy. He wants to be a spy. Bourne´s dilemma (do I really have to be a spy?) is only good for one or two films (maybe the concluding third as well). Bond can always be put in new situations. Bourne can´t. Unless they make him a fulltime spy in compliance with his superiors, a modern "Bond" approach. Which, however, would go against everything the character was supposed to be about.

So, I had liked "Bourne" better if they had stayed true to their word and stopped after Number 3.

In fact, the Greengrass "Bourne" has given all he can to the genre. What should be the novelty factor with part 4? No Greengrass shakey-cam?

Bond has taken "Bourne" and moved everything to a new level.

[Vauxhall]

http://www.darkhoriz...s08/081110p.php

Carlos the Jackal is coming to a multi-plex near you...and he'll be played by a treadstone agent...

This sounds like a fantastic project.

[Loomis]

I saw the fourth Bourne film last week. It was pretty good, but it doesn't star Matt Damon. I assume that Paul Greengrass was once again in the director's chair, though, 'coz the look and feel was identical to SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM.

The hero of this film is a Treadstone agent called James Blunt or something, played by some Brit called Craig Daniels. Yes, a limey, but don't worry, he's basically exactly the same as Damon's Bourne.

The title is QUANT----, erm, QUANTUM---- something. It's a difficult title. Anyways, good movie. Roll on BOURNE 5.

[Se7en]

Although Jason Bourne doesn't even come close to Bond in my opinion, i would love to see a fifth bourne movie.

[Safari Suit]

The hero of this film is a Treadstone agent called James Blunt or something, played by some Brit called Craig Daniels.

You mean Gary Daniels? Wow, he's moved up in the world!