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[Single-O-Seven]

It might not have 'legs' so to speak over the long haul, and the box office might plunge in subsequent weeks.

Of course it will have legs over the long haul. People love THE DARK KNIGHT.

Unlike Casino Royale and Batman Begins. There was nothing in TDK that seemed to merit a repeat viewing.

That's a perspective that, as far as we can tell, most folks don't share.

I'll be going to see it again with my wife just as soon as the IMAX screenings are done being sold out every day! Has anyone seen it in IMAX? How did the IMAX-format scenes play out - as breathtaking as I suspect?

[Johnboy007]

So, who do you think will win the race for 2010 Box Office gross, Bond 23 or Bourne 4?

I honestly had no idea there was going to be a Bourne 4. In any case I think it's too early to tell for either of them. If history is anything to go on, it'll be Bourne. But Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass might serve up one horrific turkey of a film that absolutely bombs. Who knows.

Speaking purely out of opinion I don't really find myself that excited by the prospect of another Bourne. I thought Ultimatum was a bit of a let down and nowhere near as good as Supremacy.

Back to the original post: I expect Batman will soundly beat Bond across the board. TDK had some phenomenal buzz, in large part to Heath Ledger's death, that few films can ever hope to match. I've said this about a billion times, but it doesn't really matter in the end. Both will do monstrous business, guarantee countless sequels, and provide something worthy of watching over and over for the rest of our lives.

[JackWade]

Unlike Casino Royale and Batman Begins. There was nothing in TDK that seemed to merit a repeat viewing.

That's a perspective that, as far as we can tell, most folks don't share.

Agreed. I'm not sure of Emma's reasoning for that statement as many people are seeing the film repeatedly.

And by the way, THE DARK KNIGHT eclipsed SPIDERMAN 3's opening weekend record with approximately $155 million.

[Satorious]

My opinion on TDK vs QOS at the box-office:

Domestically (ie. US) - no contest. Dark Knight will trounce Bond.

Internationally (ie. The rest of us) - a tougher call. I suspect both will do quite well. I'd like to see Bond win this, but I'm not so sure it will.

Overall: The Dark Knight.

[DamnCoffee]

I voted for the Dark Knight. I have a really good feeling that it will pass the $1 Billion mark. To be honest though, I dont care who does the best, I like both franchises and aslong as Quantum of Solace makes a decent amount of money (or even better, out grosses Casino Royale) then I will be happy.

On a completely different note, it's obvious that Harry Potter will out gross them both.

[Vauxhall]

On a completely different note, it's obvious that Harry Potter will out gross them both.

I'd like to think that THE DARK KNIGHT will outgross HALF-BLOOD PRINCE. I really think that it will exceed all expectations. I never can understand how the Harry Potter movies do so well.

[DamnCoffee]

Probably because it tends to appeal to children more.

[Ace Roberts]

You also have to factor in that Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six will be out in 2008 too.

That was funny - made me laugh. For two reasons - 1) the film is in "penciled" in for a 2010 release (if even that) and 2) what the heck does it have to do with the price of beans?

[Jim]

On a completely different note, it's obvious that Harry Potter will out gross them both.

I'd like to think that THE DARK KNIGHT will outgross HALF-BLOOD PRINCE. I really think that it will exceed all expectations. I never can understand how the Harry Potter movies do so well.

I wonder (for about as long as it takes to type this) if this Harry Potter film will be quite as successful as the others given that it's the first one to be hurled at us since people found out the final ending.

I suspect that it will make more than James Bond.

[Single-O-Seven]

Probably because it tends to appeal to children more.

Very true. And where there's lots of children there tends to be almost as many parents escorting them, which means even more ticket sales.

[Chief of SIS]

For Quantum of Solace to even come close to achieving a box-office similar to 'The Dark Knight' I think it would need the public hype 'The Dark Knight' had. While Quantum is just as big as an event to me as 'The Dark knight' was, I have a feeling weekly blogs from Quantum crew isn't going to hype the fans like half-year long viral marketing campaign that 'the Dark Knight' had.

[tdalton]

For Quantum of Solace to even come close to achieving a box-office similar to 'The Dark Knight' I think it would need the public hype 'The Dark Knight' had. While Quantum is just as big as an event to me as 'The Dark knight' was, I have a feeling weekly blogs from Quantum crew isn't going to hype the fans like half-year long viral marketing campaign that 'the Dark Knight' had.

Agreed. I haven't seen THE DARK KNIGHT, so I can't comment on the quality of the actual film, but the marketing campaign was, for the most part, outstanding in building up hype for the film even as far back as last year. It's too late to do that with QUANTUM OF SOLACE, but if EON were to go about marketing BOND 23 in a similar way, then the Bond franchise could generate more hype than it currently does with the moviegoers.

[Emma]

Agreed. I'm not sure of Emma's reasoning for that statement as many people are seeing the film repeatedly.

The fact that I was bored to tears with it, and kept on looking at my watch throughout the viewing. I had no such experience when I saw BB and CR. In fact I ran out and saw CR again, the day after and BB at the midnight opening showing ( I had first seen BB at a preview).

My opinion on TDK vs QOS at the box-office:

Domestically (ie. US) - no contest. Dark Knight will trounce Bond.

Internationally (ie. The rest of us) - a tougher call. I suspect both will do quite well. I'd like to see Bond win this, but I'm not so sure it will.

Overall: The Dark Knight.

FYI, the last peak I took, the box office figures were 40 million dollars. Compared to the overall North American take of 155(roughly) million. Now this might not mean anything substantive. It could merely mean that the film has not opened everywhere overseas yet.

However I still have more faith that QoS will be a more enjoyable film.

Edited by Emma, 20 July 2008 - 10:44 PM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Good gracious, Emma; were you born on Opposite Day?

Seriously, I'm going with Batsie.

[kneelbeforezod]

Now this might not mean anything substantive. It could merely mean that the film has not opened everywhere overseas yet.

Yes thats exactly what it means.

[Skudor]

I guessed Batman - but after reading the thread I'm guessing Batman will carry the US and Bond the World.

I'll say Batman wins the lot, hands down with a considerable margin. QUANTUM OF SOLACE won't beat this money making machine. THE DARK KNIGHT has already, in one weekend, almost beaten CR's US takings. And even though it's yet to open in most of Europe TDK has already taken $40 million internationally. Doesn't mean that QOS can't or won't be a success - it just can't beat something this big (nor does it really matter as long as QoS is a fantastic Bond film).

[jaguar007]

So, who do you think will win the race for 2010 Box Office gross, Bond 23 or Bourne 4?

I honestly had no idea there was going to be a Bourne 4. In any case I think it's too early to tell for either of them. If history is anything to go on, it'll be Bourne. But Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass might serve up one horrific turkey of a film that absolutely bombs. Who knows.

If history is anything to go on, it'll be BOND! CR grossed more than the first two Boune movies put together! The third Bourne movie came about $150million shy of CR's gross as well.

[BoogieBond]

Ultimately think it will be The Dark Knight. The Buzz surrounding it is huge, noticed it on billboards, TV spots etc. You can't get away from it. The only sort of buzz I remember that was similar in scope was The Da Vinci Code

Hope that Quantum of Solace will be an even better film than The Dark Knight, which by reviews is a critically acclaimed film. I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

[HildebrandRarity]

I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

O I think Quantum Of Solace has an opportunity to be the 4th highest grossing movie of 2008 behind The Dark Knight, Indy Jones and Harry Potter.

[Single-O-Seven]

I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

O I think Quantum Of Solace has an opportunity to be the 4th highest grossing movie of 2008 behind The Dark Knight, Indy Jones and Harry Potter.

I'd say it will at the very least fall into 4th place. If it goes higher, then great!

[Invincible1958]

I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

O I think Quantum Of Solace has an opportunity to be the 4th highest grossing movie of 2008 behind The Dark Knight, Indy Jones and Harry Potter.

I'd say it will at the very least fall into 4th place. If it goes higher, then great!

I bet Quantum of Solace will be in front of Batman worldwide. Quantum will be the 3rd highest grossing movie of the years begind Harry Potter and Indy.

[HildebrandRarity]

I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

O I think Quantum Of Solace has an opportunity to be the 4th highest grossing movie of 2008 behind The Dark Knight, Indy Jones and Harry Potter.

I'd say it will at the very least fall into 4th place. If it goes higher, then great!

I think it will be tight. Given Indy's numbers and what Harry Potter has done before, I think it will be tough. The Dark Knight will have long legs because it's likely to be the best acclaimed of the 'big movies' for 2008. Quantum will benefit from a weaker US Dollar and increasing wealth from the newer Foreign territories. Bond always generates about 65 to 70 percent of its numbers from International box office receipts and that percentage is getting bigger and becoming more important.

We'll see. My early look for Quantum is in the $650 million to $700 million range. The budget is big and the producers should rightly be expecting big numbers given the immense talent involved on ALL fronts.

[jaguar007]

I think QoS will do a much better business in the US than CR did. It was similar to BB, I think many people who passed on CR in the theater discovered Craig's Bond on video (not implying that it will do DK business).

I see QoS going well above $700million WW.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Batman.


but i love both

[HildebrandRarity]

I think QoS will do a much better business in the US than CR did. It was similar to BB, I think many people who passed on CR in the theater discovered Craig's Bond on video (not implying that it will do DK business).

I see QoS going well above $700million WW.

I agree with the logic in paragraph one.

I also am constructive on the US$ 700 Million figure for various reasons.

It'll be extremely hard for Bond to beat the curiosity factor associated with Heath Ledger's fatal accidental overdose and his sublime performance in an iconic role.

This has been the best year ever for quality super-hero movies. First Iron Man, then the quite suprisingly well-made Incredible Hulk. And now this gem.

2008 will be a hard year to top in terms of quality super-hero entertainment!

[BoogieBond]

I still think Qos will make a lot of money and be in the top 10 earners of 2008. I think Batman may be in the top 3(Indy/Harry Potter).

O I think Quantum Of Solace has an opportunity to be the 4th highest grossing movie of 2008 behind The Dark Knight, Indy Jones and Harry Potter.

Yeah. Your Optimism has caught on, and I think I was being overly pessimistic. For the worldwide Gross, I can see a top 5 finish at least. Hope So

[ImTheMoneypenny]

As much as I would love QoS to beat TDK, I just cannot see that happening. Now I can see it coming in as 4th. I'd love it to be 3rd, but anything in the top five of the year would please me.

[HildebrandRarity]

It's been noted that there was some really interesting new filming technology used during Quantum's flight sequences...as well as in the post-production process.

Dark Knight, however, is the first blockbuster to use IMAX (for a handful of scenes) and I think that's a small factor driving a piece of its success as IMAX ticket prices are higher.

I'd like to check out The Dark Knight on IMAX...has anyone here seen it on IMAX and can you note a significant differece?

By the way Casino Royale was number 4 for 2006. Thunderball was number 2 for 1965.

[Aris007]

On a completely different note, it's obvious that Harry Potter will out gross them both.

I fear so as well!

Anyway, I my heart says QoS, but my mind says The Dark knight! And because I can't think with emotions I voted for the TDK! It has something that QoS probably hasn't. What's that? Heath Ledger!

[Blonde Bond]

Also, Batman has all those neat gadgets... Leaves people wondering where he gets all those fancy toys.